TOPIC: Peyronie's Disease & PMMA Journal

Looking very natural and I don't think anyone would notice the gap unless you gave them magnifying glass and pointed it out. We are so much more critical of ourselves and body than others are. I used the same stretcher you use and got very clear indentation behind glans where the tube goes. I switched to ESL but haven't used it consistently yet. I am very happy for you, your not at full Inch gain yet and you are getting compliments on your Dick and from your posts it seems to have helped boost confidence as well. Congrats! I hope with ADS I can get to your length.

Thanks Puell, unfortunately the gap is worse Erect - and it doesn't seem to be improving. This is partially why i got only 15ccs...so I wouldn't have an overfilled lower half relative to the circ area. I don't know why he only put in 2 ccs in the circ area - or where those went, but I really think this looks bad.

Left pic has no flash, right pic shows the problem better bc of the contrast of the flash. Also, my size gain at the top half seems to be less every time.

How have people dealt with this? Am I supposed to just go all the way there for 5 ccs in the circ area? It looks so bad right now that I'd actually consider all that travel just for a touch up. I am only 4.5 up there too.

Why would it stay there if you had a touch up?

It's like the two scar line create a trench. If you put your finger between the 2 scar lines, it looks really good. Unfortunately that might mean the best solution is to remove the skin in between so you have one scar line near the top.

Why would it stay there if you had a touch up?

Sorry - I wasn't sure what you mean. I am considering to go back just for the small touch up...even with all the travel costs. I think the touch up should clear it up but the skin is really tight.

You're right, the area above the deglove scar seemed to grow - and it's actually firm now...like all the PMMA just went up there and sort of got harder too. I think if they just filled in this and I didn't do anything else, it might be okay... bc then the PMMA would be trapped. If I did a "full" round 3, then the PMMA would go where it wanted more easily, again. But, it's a lot of travel for just a little thing.

Any surgery would be a last resort, i think. I am not sure what the complications would be now that PMMA is in the tissue - or that there is even enough skin to do that. I think the hair on the base would be dragged up too. I think the fascia is tighter there as well. I wonder if I can somehow stretch this area out before a touch up. People seem to think pumping is a bad idea - but it's the only way I can think of that will give a circumferential stretch.

Well, I noticed the size went down a bit last time out till 10 weeks, so maybe it'll be less of an abrupt transition w/ time...but now it's not looking so good. Wade was saying it's more likely for this to happen on r1 than r2... i wonder why this happened this time. Everything was maintained so well after the procedure. I think maybe 2cc of 10 wasnt enough...or that area doesn't stretch...and will never stretch.

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Why would it stay there if you had a touch up?

Sorry - I wasn't sure what you mean. I am considering to go back just for the small touch up...even with all the travel costs. I think the touch up should clear it up but the skin is really tight.

You're right, the area above the deglove scar seemed to grow - and it's actually firm now...like all the PMMA just went up there and sort of got harder too. I think if they just filled in this and I didn't do anything else, it might be okay... bc then the PMMA would be trapped. If I did a "full" round 3, then the PMMA would go where it wanted more easily, again. But, it's a lot of travel for just a little thing.

Any surgery would be a last resort, i think. I am not sure what the complications would be now that PMMA is in the tissue - or that there is even enough skin to do that. I think the hair on the base would be dragged up too. I think the fascia is tighter there as well. I wonder if I can somehow stretch this area out before a touch up. People seem to think pumping is a bad idea - but it's the only way I can think of that will give a circumferential stretch.

Well, I noticed the size went down a bit last time out till 10 weeks, so maybe it'll be less of an abrupt transition w/ time...but now it's not looking so good. Wade was saying it's more likely for this to happen on r1 than r2... i wonder why this happened this time. Everything was maintained so well after the procedure. I think maybe 2cc of 10 wasnt enough...or that area doesn't stretch...and will never stretch.

I meant that Dr C has injected you twice and both times it seems the PMMA wont settle between the 2 scar lines, so if you go back and have some injected just in that area, why would it stay there this time? It's not like he's missed that area out previously, it just seems the PMMA doesn't settle there.

Actually this guy had an issue with PMMA not settling above his "ring" and Dr C was able to get it to stay there on his 3rd visit.


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Thanks for those links. I think I remember that journal from a while ago in my lurking days - it's one of the reasons I didn't want to overdo the 30% bc my circ area is "high and tight"...as they did in the era when I was born. I wish big wheels posted more about how they resolved that...he didn't seem to lack ANY confidence - 120 women even w/ that issue? Well, aright then... but he did mention he's good looking too lol. I also have the same issue on the underside that bigwheels does, wherre the upside down V shape below the glans is just totally un-filled and there's a little ledge below there too.

My only thought about Dr. C getting the PMMA in there is that the surrounding areas are more fibrotic now - so it's less likely to escape into the path of least resistance....however...it still can. And, it doesn't want to grow in the circ area. I may just end up w/ nodules if he tries to force a bunch of PMMA in that area. Some other guys had nodules up there. Someone posted a stretching routine for the circ skin - and I can try that - but my skin isn't nearly as pliable anymore. Even masturbation is a different story bc my skin is less mobile and more dense.

I guess I'll have to see how things progress... the ultimate irony is that the 1st sign I had peyronies was a C shaped dent on the left side. I think its in some of my early pics. I had narrowing before the curve became pronounced. Most people don't realize that's related to peyronies, including most urologists. At least it's bigger...if I want to stay positive about it. There are two other hard spots that appear when I am 100% Erect, but they go away if I'm 90% Erect..it's odd.

Yeah, can definitely see the gap above the first scar line. I remember someone using ADS to stretch skin before they went to see Dr C.
It may be best to wait until growth is completed to harden up area as you mentioned, so PMMA can't leave the area. Tricky situation.

Yeah, the gap is there... I emailed them, but not sure when I can get back to SD. I also have a vacation coming up and wanted to use this... and now it looks kinda bad. Also, notice the weirdness in the stretched state - these lumps and ridges are all over the place. Now, I know from R1 that some of this smooths out...but some of it grows... anyway... damnit I wish I didn't have this vacation coming up -- it was seriously my post-peyronies-PMMA1-PMMA2 celebratory vacation where I like the guys a lot (and have a few friends)... but now they are gonna think I have a freak penis.



Trying to catch the morning wood before it went away...kinda dented on the left too

Not an easy task...lol.. I need to suck it up and take a viagra to see a 100% penis but the headaches have gotten so bad (and my insurance sucks so much ass) that it's like $47 a boner... $17 for viagra (half a 50) and $30 for migraine pill (generic imitrex would be free but it makes me wanna throw up so I have to pay for brand Zomig if I get a headache - which is like more than 1/2 the time now).

I texted my fuck buddy here so he said "maybe later afternoon"... so that will be one data point. I would personally find this quite unattractive. ugh... well it is Sunday afternoon & there's one other place I could go to do market research but I am a bit germaphobic for that scene...TBD

On viagra, it doesn't look as bad, though the left side has issues which it had going into this. I can still get to 6" EL which is good, and 6.5 BPEL. Girth is up 0.5 on the lower half (4.75 to 5.25) and 0.25 on the upper half (4.5 to 4.75) from R1. This makes a total Girth gain (upper and lower halves) of 0.75 over 2 sessions, if it stays. My experience after R1 was that it will keep changing for 2 more months...but not necessarily loose a ton of size - but that it will even out more too.




The left side also looked better futher out after R1 vs. just 4 weeks which is here (and 2 weeks post R1 is earlier in the log - showing the voids which actually went away)...I hope the same thing happens bc it doesn't look great now. The right side looks a lot better.

I bet nobody notices, well, maybe the drop at the circ scar, but that is easily explained with peyronies I would think. From the pic, the little lumps/nodules are only visible when you have it stretched as you noted, so just don't let any of the guys see it stretched . Don't mean to pry, but is the Viagra necessary because of the peyronies or something else?

Peyronie's caused ED, and surgery can't fix that aspect of it unless you get an inflatable implant, which some older men do because they have to be replaced every 10 years...and surgeons prefer not to do it to guys in their 30s. The tunica was damaged by the disorder - and this really varies by patient, but the majority do get ED. Also, men who do not get erections from Viagra or Caverject will typically get implants. Surgery can actually make ED worse in some cases (grafting, in particular, can make ED worse - so I had plication only - they won't do grafting on people with ED...Miracle had Grafting). So, my ED just remained the same after surgery and I lost maybe 1 cm of length that came back I think. I haven't had normal erections since PD started a few years back. Viagra is quite a miracle pill, though. If this happened before viagra, it would've been a whole different story. I probably would be using caverject. Now with the melanoma thing (and my awful headaches), I might ask my doctor about it.

I think in 8 more weeks it'll look kinda different again. I just hope I keep the 0.75 over the two sessions! I've seen some really huge gains on here, and I don't need huge (5 is basically the goal, or 5.2 would be nice)...but that's enough. If the circ area can't expand, then going over 5 below there will just look weird. I think I might do a touch up round if it doesn't settle evenly. Last time, my 11 week pics were much better than my 4 week pics. It almost was the worst between weeks 3-7.

Ironically, I had some guy tell me he was "7" hung and thick" online - and I was significantly thicker and longer at 6". Gay guys have delusions of grandeur with their dicks.

I think on viagra it looks good enough for my upcoming vacation sex... so long as it doesn't get worse.

I want to pump - but actually at this point that might not even help. The circ area is just tight as hell. I need to stretch that tissue for PMMA to work in there I think. I really need to talk to Wade about it though. It's not just the skin (which isn't that tight), the fascia is really the problem.

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Up 0.25" Uniformly (4.75 upper half, 5.0 lower half)... this isn't really what I expected from 30% - even at a low concentration. I am not sure if it will even stay this big by week 12...I'm not sure what's going on. I didn't really even avoid aesthetic problems by limiting the CC amount.

Do you think it doesn't bond/form as well given your history with PE surgery or maybe just your physiology?

Well, Miracle had similar surgery... and he said Dr. C said that it actually made things easier. I have some loose skin because the internal structures of the penis have been damaged and shrank, so I thought the PMMA would grow even more on me. Part of the problem might be that I went for 10% in R1 and limited the quantity of 30% in R2 to 17cc...but if you read posts from 2011-2013, this still should've gotten me close to 1.0 for a total gain, rather than around 0.5 which is where I'm at now (and may lose more).

There is one area that does not want to take the PMMA that is related to a peyronies treatment, but they addressed that 2 days post. And it worked. The circ scar / glans gap is tight on me and is not growing much.

I might just end up where I started before all this began - actually, bigger (I think I was 4.5" EG) - and just live w/ that. 4.75/5 isn't that bad really. I am not sure how much more money I can spend on this or how much more I want to go there & deal with it. I really want to fix the glans/circ gap though. If I go back, I'll have to see what it looks like in november or something to decide if I want a touch up or a full round.