TOPIC: Astrix's PE journey (PMMA/Chem PE/extender/pump etc)

Always good to have someone doing the reality check SJ. Honestly when I say ideal, thats an idea, Im not unhappy with my 5.5 with the Girth i have now post PMMA Round 1, it gets enough compliments and as mentioned test drives on multiple women have been nothing short of happy endings for both parties

So even if I add 0.5, or 1 or more... anything more is merrier. And I will be alert for all precautions cause sure I dont want to end up worse than where I began.

I will go through the thread, many thanks. I suppose once someone reaches the size and results they want maybe they just forget or dont care to bother to update anymore and move on with life or who knows... could be bad ending too.

Damn, not to sound like a Dick here, but your reading comprehension is piss poor.I am not defending Dr. Elist, these forums have proved that he is a butcher that should lose his license to operate his clinic. I am posting because I am highly concerned about someone trying to paint other doctors as incompetent and lunatic without providing any evidence.Every criticism of Dr. A I've seen always seemed like a shill, so please don't leave stuff like this unchallenged.

Rifflair,
If you took the time to actually research this board, you would quickly realize that there are several members who have direct experience with Dr Elist and his "FDA approved" silicone implant. I don't know what better proof you can expect to get? Are you insisting that the guys that have been through hell and had their implants removed are lying?

You've also failed to address my original questions. Why would you bring up Elist in your very first post, when you've had your account since last September?

As for Dr A, the jury is still out, but many of us are interested. I don't see anything more than interest about his systems effectiveness. Astrix isn't saying Dr A is a PE God. He's saying that he is going to give it a try and document how it goes. Why do you have an issue with that? He's pioneering and that should be respected because there are risks.

Astrix,
I'm really excited to see your feedback about Dr A and have really appreciated your thread. I want PMMA really badly, but my wife won't understand, so I'm looking for other alternatives.
I've recently had a P shot and I've asked the Dr if she would be willing to perscribe me Trimix and A cream to see what happens. I haven't heard back from her yet, but if she agrees, I will document as well. I'll keep you posted. Keep up the good fight.

Good luck brother.

jimmy_the _blade wrote: I want PMMA really badly, but my wife won't understand, so I'm looking for other alternatives. I've recently had a P shot and I've asked the Dr if she would be willing to perscribe me Trimix and A cream to see what happens. I haven't heard back from her yet, but if she agrees, I will document as well. I'll keep you posted. Keep up the good fight. Good luck brother.

Jim, every couple has their own dynamics...and I guess I convinced my wife by saying I want her to feel me better, shes had a couple of kids from me and I wasnt particularly girthy or long so I made it more about my self confidence issues and performance anxiety etc.

I guess there are three things you need to establish in her mind: 1. that you absolutely need this for the sake of your mental confidence and life survive-ability and for this you may may need to go deep in directly into her psychy 2. that PMMA is taking a calculated risk like rock climbing with a harnas, that it isnt pioneering and you are say 90% sure she will be very happy with the results 3. the finances are in order (that part you need to prepare ahead of time).

The wife will come around if you keep drilling her, in my relationship I am in-charge of decision making and since Im the provider dont need much convincing but i bring her on board on my decisions/things i plan on, and sometimes I do what I want even if she doesnt agree.

All I can say my man... PMMA R1 has been the best thing Ive done for myself, its settled real well, and the only problem I have now is the 56mm condom (which usually comes with XXL or King size labels etc) is too tight on my penis and I get to boast about how these large size condoms suffocate my Erect penis when im with the ladies. Gosh.... I really never thought I'd have the pleasure of this.

As for SJ, my man... honestly anything thicker/longer from where I am now.... is all good. I am very very happy with current size and any Inch thicker and longer is just additional plus. Ideal is just an ideal... why would I set an ideal as a something I know I can achieve... thats not an ideal, thats reality within my grasp... thats how I operate I suppose.

Hey Astrix,
I completely agree with you on relationship dynamics. Mine is complicated, but I'll spare you the details. My wife knows I'm using a traction device and pump, but elects to steer clear of the details. I've been using the phallosan and els40, but find it hard to get the necessary hours in. I've made length gains, but nothing to write home about. I've gone from 6.5 BPEL to around 6.8. I've maybe gained a 1/4" in Girth. I'm about 5.25 mesg. When I've used the bath mate, I get near 6" mesg, which is were I would like to be, but it doesn't stay there for long.

I'm really interested in chem PE because I would prefer to add size with out a forine substance if possible. PMMA is really appealing because it's instant, but I'm conserned about the risks.

I'm looking for a way to try chem PE as a us Citizen, but would prefer to get prescriptions rather than order off research sites

I'm looking forward to your progress reports with Dr A.
As soon as I'm up to something worthy of a thread, I'll start one

Good luck my man.

If this backlash was about my criticism of Dr.A's character... Keep in mind this is a discussion forum which it's purpose is to provide unfiltered, unbiased accounts of our experiences.

Maybe I should have recorded his long winded conversation with me about Ilumanati Aliens... I never said his procedure was bogus or anything like that. Simply that the guy was a little too "out there" for me... Just like how with other dr's, people talk about their experiences, appointments and bedside manor, I gave my account of my experience. I can assure you 100% that I did not make up what was said in my appointment.

He seemed knowledgeable in what he was doing. Just personality-wise he was a little off putting for me... To each their own.

Edit: to prove I was there, here's photos I took from inside his office...
Edit2: actually removed the photos, but pm me if you'd like to see.

Ps, Astrix, definitely keep us posted on how things progress. We need more real Chem PE progress threads here.

size dont think you read carefully... the backlash has nothing to do with your post. its some other guy

astrix1981 wrote: size dont think you read carefully... the backlash has nothing to do with your post. its some other guy

He's referring to the other guys post. He's describing that as "backlash", whilst you are referring to the backlash of the "backlash."

I took it as this:

rifflair wrote: He has 27 patents to his name, and is employed by multiple medical research companies. I am all for sharing your opinions and insights, but any criticism that seems to go to such extremes that result in doctors being perceived as incompetent or lunatic should be at least supported by some proof. Reputation is extremely important in this field, I am pretty sure that thanks to this board Dr. Elist has lost at least 50 potential patients.Please also take into consideration that what Dr. A has described in his patents currently has no scientific backing, using medicine used for erectile dysfunction and treatment of Peyronie disease for penis enlargement can lead to losing your medical license and livelihood due to malpractice.

And this:

rifflair wrote: Damn, not to sound like a Dick here, but your reading comprehension is piss poor.I am not defending Dr. Elist, these forums have proved that he is a butcher that should lose his license to operate his clinic. I am posting because I am highly concerned about someone trying to paint other doctors as incompetent and lunatic without providing any evidence.Every criticism of Dr. A I've seen always seemed like a shill, so please don't leave stuff like this unchallenged.

As backlash to what I wrote about Dr. A's eccentric nature and his 1.5 hour conversation with me about the Illuminati, "Big Pharma, and aliens who secretly control the earth.

That's what I was referring to...

But like I said before, I'm not saying he's a nut-case doctor or a quack (the mad scientist reference I made was more about his behaviour and the topic of discussion (which he chose to talk about...) and his manorisms during the appointment. I was not claiming he is "incompetent", I was saying he is a very eccentric / odd personality).

His intensions seem honest and I definitely do feel he's knowledgable in what he is doing. He's definitely seen it all as he didn't even bat an eye at my PMMA. He felt the fibrous tissue and warned me that he didn't think his methods would be all that effective for me for length (like he said to astrix). And kudos to him on that, instead of finding a longer needle to inject his chems into me, he was up-front that I probably wouldn't see much, if anything.

He is just VERY eccentric / odd. Everyone has their own beliefs. I was just giving my account of my odd appointment.

Edit: and I genuinely believe the accounts people have of gains using his method... I wish people could document it a little better though, but at this point I feel in my opinion his chem PE regimen likely has worked for many men to get length / Girth gains.

Edit 2: Sorry astrix to continue the sidelining of your thread. I just wanted to "provide proof" that my appointment actually happened... and that I'm not a "shill" against Dr. A.

lol guys... backlash to the backlash

Size, always good to have insight in every way - personally as long as the guy seems to know what he is talking about although i doubt i'd be able to really evaluate its validity or technicality, overall seems its worth exploring and sounding out. On Apr 28 I go in for blood works and May 3 I believe is when my chem pe regime will start with the doc goin in may3-5 for daily visits. Then Im on my own. I told him I travel a lot and will be away from country at least next 3 months so I think I will be purchasing the goods and heading out maybe with a 6 month supply.

If you guys have specific questions to which I should get answers please list them here so Im locked stocked and ready to collect as much info as possible. Remember to quote others questions or collate as we go along so I have it all in one post. So here we go.

Question no.
1.

This is awesome Astrix! Looking forward to continuing to follow your thread. I'm going to try it on my own because we don't have a Dr here in the US. I'm In the process of fining a Dr that will prescribe me Tri Mix.

I agree with smalljay. Dr. A will do a Flaccid stretched measurement of his own. But you should definitely try to do what smalljay described above. Good luck man!

Hi Astrix! Here's my questions to Dr.A1. What did he meant, when he said that "He's working on something new that will apparently be a game changer with PE"? (Thanks you Sizemic for this information).
2. What are the limiting factors which is prevent any gain of Erect length?3. He is still uses "Human Relaxin" in his protocol for softening of tunica?4. Did he use in his practice "Xiaflex" for softening of tunica albuginea?Also, I recommend you get measure of your BPFSL (Bone Pressed Flaccid Stretched Length) before you start your ChemPE routine.

Thanks guys, just didnt have much to report past few days so didnt log on. I was pumping 3-4 days ago and went a bit mad intense and that did something to the PMMA i think on the left side near the base, it was already previously a bit bumpy there and it become hard, i didnt notice first day, next when i noticed i got paranoid that maybe its to do with my fuck fest week before, went to Urologist next day and got full blood works and he said everything looks ok, blood test all came out ok, and he immediately knew id done something to the penis so i told him PMMA he didnt know what that was. anyway long story short, intense pump and hold can fuck shit up. im still massaaging it down and its hard to push back in but its not terribly noticeable but for sure there, also sensitive there bit but gotten lot better. i will see Dr A in two days so report back then. havent pumped last few days.

First visit to Dr. A today. Did blood works. Was in his office and he started the discussion with the NWO type of stuff mainly about education system being controlled, federal reserve, medical profession etc and doctors being compartentalized. Anyway the reason why he says this is cause he wants to tell why he is different cause he is a PE doc, as well as hair etc so for example Im taking propecia for hair loss and he said i should stop it cause blocking DHTa is what shrinks the blood vessels in the penis making it lose its potency/erectile function, point being he said docs want to process as many patients as possible and he is different, he uses his knowledge and connects it with everything else, so he said its important to visualize the penis getting bigger. and placebo effect is real etc also yeah i think all of this nwo stuff for him ties into the fact that he talked about tests and stuff to prove medicine works etc which he said sometimes its not all necessary evidence based or whatever the term maybe, its form learning that the doc has deduced his technique and method, knowledge, logic, learning etc. he is surely a different type of doc but he is doing something conventional doctors arent. s

anyway now to the details, he injected me with test doe of something, i had a partial fatter penis but not an erection, he said he will add something else, and how he tackles this at different levels, honestly im the worst at recalling the specifics, but ideal is swell the penis into erection, keep it like that for 1-1.5 hours few times a week and the blood flow will eventually increase the length over time. this is the basic premise of his technique. He uses this injection, told me where it must be done, how etc and i asked him about the plaperism and the pyrione disease and he said thats why dose is checked/set to ensure the over erection doesnt happen and how the injections are done, stopping the blood from going on etc with hold if all done correctly it shouldnt result in these.

so I will try this out with full and mind and belief that it will work, im back on 3rd for first real session and will hit him with the questions i was asked to ask. btw you can have sex on the hard on, so thats a good thing. this is like manual PE with additional stuff.