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TOPIC: BBC IPLAYER: The penis extension clinic

Re: BBC IPLAYER: The penis extension clinic

10 years 2 months ago #1292494744
Well yeah but you get my point

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Re: BBC IPLAYER: The penis extension clinic

10 years 2 months ago #1292481193
Haha yeah I agree with ya on that.

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Re: BBC IPLAYER: The penis extension clinic

10 years 2 months ago #1292515249
@Androfill
Thanks so much for this clarification, otherwise it was quite upsetting.

@number22
The whole world of technology and medicine is experimenting with new materials, procedures, etc. Experience no longer matters. It's quite commendable when practitioners (technicians etc.) update themselves in the modern best practices and make the necessary effort to perfect the techniques available to them.

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Re: BBC IPLAYER: The penis extension clinic

10 years 2 months ago #1292519346
@jogift: nicely put. revising best practice is agreed valid. my perhaps not so well put point was the implication that this meant Androfill's claims of doing HA for years was an exageration.

i will reign it in a bit because i'm not so sure now, maybe i got that wrong. im just used to cosmetic doctors lying their ass off about patient numbers.

what do you mean about exoerience no longer matters though?

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Re: BBC IPLAYER: The penis extension clinic

10 years 2 months ago #1292485299
This is fearful! Apart from hoddle there's one other person who posted having done a procedure with them (the doctor). I wish there were more posts about PE in the UK.

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Re: BBC IPLAYER: The penis extension clinic

10 years 2 months ago #1292496052
Reklaw wrote: Okay fair enough, i didn't mean to witter on at you I just feel passionately about how shit this technique is.

We're on COMPLETELY the same page Reklaw, I think it's a shitty , pointless procedure.

I just focussed on the one big issue for me , that is, even if everything else goes fine (big IF), you're still faced with nothing but a very expensive , very temporary solution.

I really feel hugely sorry for these folks and after this dam program, I bet he has a waiting list full.

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Re: BBC IPLAYER: The penis extension clinic

10 years 2 months ago #1293935821
jogift wrote: T One person's opinion is not enough to doubt a practitioner ...

I don't really, I was trying to politely say , you're in direct contradiction with somebody who knows what they're talking about.

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Re: BBC IPLAYER: The penis extension clinic

10 years 2 months ago #1292511697
The clinic promoting surgery on BBC in the UK is Moorgate, not Androfill.

Doctors performing the Androfill HA procedure (including the Penoplasty surgeon who appears frequently on the BBC), are free to provide surgery to other clinics if they wish to.

No patient has been sold surgery by Androfill to date. The Androfill site aims to dissuade people from taking unnecessary surgery, steering them towards safer and more effective non-surgical options.

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Re: BBC IPLAYER: The penis extension clinic

10 years 2 months ago #1292480990
"It really made me wonder what the people on this board are like! It's odd seeing how out of whack some guys priorities are"
Are you referring to the fact that they were already a good size and that all they cared about was being "huge" or having a "monster"
Cos if so I agree, if i had an average Girth I would never of persued Phalloplasty.
Or were you referring to the fact that there partner already seemed happy with their Girth? because if I had a partner who was happy with my penis I wouldn't touch it.
Also it absolutely blows my mind that in 1st world countries like ours their still offering such backwards techniques, by now all these doctors should have switched to PMMA or HA. Their fucking useless, it's unreal that a bunch enthusiasts like us know more about what works than all these urologists who have PhD's.

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10 years 2 months ago #1292496096
smalljay wrote: Dexter, if you haven't heard of this long term inflammatory response effect, you need to search the boards for 'FBG' or Foreign Body Granuloma - it is a known (albeit somewhat rare) occurence with PMMA.

That is the one counter argument to the last two sentences of hoddle's post - we haven't seen the long term effects of PMMA in the penis yet. A lot of guys might get bad reactions, but also they might not. From the research so far, it appears that a small percentage (low single digits) might - but if Dr. C's theory that injecting it below the outer fascia results in less/no FBG's is true, then that's a good thing.

We do at least know that fat in the penis long term is a bad idea, ineffective at best, dangerous at worst. imo, PMMA is also not that great, and something better will come along (maybe it's already here, in HA). But that's just my spoiled 2011+ view of things - for people like the old vets here, PMMA was kind of a godsend - never has there been something like it which could give you permanent gains with so few short term drawbacks (assuming things go well during aftercare).

I took a read of the FBG issue, I focussed more on the literature from sites like pub med and so forth.

Interesting for sure but risk wise, we're talking less than 1 in 1000 and of those 1, these seem to be linked to people with existing conditions such as HIV, chronic renal fatigue or similar.

What's also interesting is, in a number of the cases, there's no guarantee that it was even PMMA injected.

I think , it's an issue to certainly aware of but I suspect on the list of things to worry about, of which there are many , it's way lower than other concerns.




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Re: BBC IPLAYER: The penis extension clinic

10 years 2 months ago #1292488939
Reklaw, read the comment I replied for context on the "it works" statement.

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10 years 2 months ago #1292481008
No I was referring to the fact they were both focusing on an issue that was the least of their problems. They were both "characters" shall we say. It's not like they had it all in life but we're just lacking a good sized penis.

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Re: BBC IPLAYER: The penis extension clinic

10 years 2 months ago #1292511987
[can i ask you how long you have been performing HA?]

Surgeons have 2 years experience.

Caverject (Erect) is a good idea, borrowed from Dr O.

It is interesting to see that men can self-inject Caverject into their penis at home without supervision - with a needle the same size as Juvederm supplied 27G.

Needle is preferred over the cannula, when there is a good reason to change we will.

In communication with Dr O. outside the forum. The goal is the same, to advance the procedure and promote it as a replacement for more invasive surgery.

the Androfill website sells lig cuts right off the bat. - We offer it, then dissuade anyone from taking it. No one has taken any surgical option. This is the most effective way of reaching prospective surgery patients.





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Re: BBC IPLAYER: The penis extension clinic

10 years 2 months ago #1292491769
Reklaw wrote: "It really made me wonder what the people on this board are like! It's odd seeing how out of whack some guys priorities are" Are you referring to the fact that they were already a good size and that all they cared about was being "huge" or having a "monster" Cos if so I agree, if i had an average Girth I would never of persued Phalloplasty. Or were you referring to the fact that there partner already seemed happy with their Girth? because if I had a partner who was happy with my penis I wouldn't touch it. Also it absolutely blows my mind that in 1st world countries like ours their still offering such backwards techniques, by now all these doctors should have switched to PMMA or HA. Their fucking useless, it's unreal that a bunch enthusiasts like us know more about what works than all these urologists who have PhD's.

I suspect the medical doctors don't have PhD's, they have a MD (or version thereof). PhD is a Doctorate of Philosophy - which Educators typically have.

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Re: BBC IPLAYER: The penis extension clinic

10 years 2 months ago #1292490236
I think smalljay is in the heart of things. PMMA was a godsend at the time and now maybe, something better (HA) has turned up. From what I've read so far, even without considering the long-term risks, it was not a godsend. Androfill's (hypocritical) website and others in the medical field are beginning to attest to this. The attention seems to be moving towards perfecting the skills of HA. Those using the older methods are those reluctant to give up what they believe that they have become experts in and for the still ignorant clientele. This is clear, as Reklaw pointed out, that Androfill could have such a website recommending what it has but carrying out the procedures brought out at the start of this thread.

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