TOPIC: NEWS - Man enlarges penis gets cancer (olive oil injection)
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13 years 8 months ago #1275778563Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
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13 years 8 months ago #1275765256Also, with all that we've read about PMMA, good or bad, I don't recall seeing any connection to cancer. I think the takeaway here is that if something like a cut happens you shouldn't neglect it.
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13 years 8 months ago #1276005142- sporadic90
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From the pictures you can clearly see the blood supply.
Olive oil does not have the ability to allow blood vessels because there's no immediate response by the body for collagen formation and blood supply.
The olive oil caused an asphyxiation of the surrounding tissue and the body did not respond to the lipid in the olive oil. It also lead to the cancer because the tissues were deprived of oxygen.
As for the injury to the penis, if there's no blood supply, how do you get healing cells and nutrients to heal it when you have olive oil? Life is in the blood.
No blood supply to any organ or tissue will result in death of the organ or tissue.
I've been here for almost 3 years and done a lot of research before I take the plunge.
The bodies response to the presence of the PMMA is they key to the success.
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13 years 8 months ago #1275776554- Skeptical_One
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Musky wrote: I thought about getting PMMA but the way it works has not been scientifically researched. I wonder if PMMA in the penis merely causes inflammatory swelling rather than collagen growth. If size comes from inflammation then PMMA is like asbestos. Over the long term the inflammation will turn cancerous. We need to see scientists inject PMMA in animal penises and the dissect them to see what causes Girth. There is no way to know if it is collagen or inflammation at this time. I worry that Girth fluctuates then goes down because inflammation. Some guys seem to vary a quarter Inch from day to day. That can't be collagen. Do guys notice an increase in Girth after master action or sex...if yes then that is inflammation not collagen. Sorry to be alarmist but every doctor in Canada and the US does not do this. Only one doctor in Mexico does it and I don't think Mexican standards of medicine are acceptable to North Americans. We really need more science to investigate this.
I haven't seen a more presumptuous and grossly ignorant post...at least it's been a while. The sheer amount of information & citation on this forum has long concluded the physiological mechanisms behind bioplasty (via PMMA). Miracle7x6.5 touched on a few examples, but they aren't nearly all the examples that could be listed.
All this being said, no one disputes that Phalloplasty (including PMMA penile bioplasty) is experimental by nature. This forum continues to investigate all methods and their respective success/failure profiles. We welcome critical & inquisitive minds to join in on the discussion & investigation, so please, desist from baseless posts in the future. I highly recommend you take some time and thoroughly read both the content on these forums (Phalloplasty.proboards.com & this one), as well as the content linked throughout these forums before rejoining the discussion. Thanks.
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13 years 8 months ago #1276016174- Mustang2020
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As far as we know, as SO had elaborated, There is not a documented case of PMMA causing cancer and it has been used for many years in the body in general...
It is possible PMMA MAY one day cause cancer in some way, but there is no point in causing a concern to people on this board who had PMMA in their penises. It is a done deal, why rain on our parade. Most or all of the PMMA patients weighed in the risks and made their decision....Let's enjoy our PMMA dicks for now and if it goes south later one, I am sure some one will say "I told you so"
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13 years 8 months ago #1275772772- Miracle8x7
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Post procedure, one can expect swelling and as the collagen process takes time to complete, a variation in size. Biopsies have been performed on PMMA created collagen and I can assure you that it is indeed collagen that is formed around the microsphereric beads. There are photos on this site of these biopsies. I have not experienced any change in size for months. Also, quality of Erection varies greatly for most men.I wonder if PMMA in the penis merely causes inflammatory swelling rather than collagen growth.
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13 years 8 months ago #1275794806- Skeptical_One
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Musky wrote: 1000's of US plastic surgeons, dermatologists and urologists won't inject PMMA. That is not an insignificant factor. The US has many of the finest doctors, medical schools and researchers in the world. Mexico is not known for its medical advances... The lack of consensus by first world doctors that PMMA is safe means that there has not been enough research. I agree that the injection of olive oil was foolish.it likely was not sterile so he injected bacteria into his penis which would explain chronic inflammation. PMMA, properly handled, is sterile.
You kidding me? An effective & permanent Dermal Filler would be the end of the cash cow that is the American Cosmetic Market. These doctors thrive on repeat clients to "sustain" their "treatments" every 6-12 months or so, continuously bringing in $$. Further, due to PMMA's permanency, many of these doctors prefer shying away because if problems do arise, they are considerably harder to reverse/remove. This isn't an indictment against PMMA by American doctors as a whole necessarily. And remarkably, there have been physicians reported here to have had little-to-no knowledge of the efficacy or mechanism behind PMMA. And as a matter of fact, PMMA (Artefill) is approved for facial filler in the U.S.
I hope that those who choose not to undergo PMMA do so because they realize that they don't have any real size issue, and that the current "experimental" state of Phalloplasty doesn't justify pursuing such risky endeavors. No one is denying that there aren't any risks, but as Miracle7x6.5 points out clearly, no medical procedure is without risk.
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13 years 8 months ago #1277197748Asbestos does not cause cancer, it induces a reaction in our bodies (including inflammation) that causes the cancer.
It's our bodies reaction to the foreign material that is unfortunately the culprit - not the material itself.
This is one of the reasons I'm going to get my lump removed, but it is causing my entire penis to be swollen, almost 24x7
I think usually the PMMA swelling is only after sex ... so I'm not as worried about the steady state of PMMA.
There seems to be a report here that justifies this here
For PMMA patients ... I wonder if it would be prudent to have a Urologist check your junk once a year -- just for safety sake?
With Asbestos it would cause constant chronic inflammation 24x7 ... so if our penises are just getting inflamed after sex.. then maybe its much less often than Asbestos, so less risk
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13 years 8 months ago #1275785923- Miracle8x7
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I was shown the product in its original packaging and it was indeed OEM Metacril.The truth is if a doctor says he is injecting you with PMMA.... in mexico...can you be 100% sure it's not medical grade silicon?
True. It is still relatively new to US doctors in the grand array of cosmetic fillers though its use in penile augmentation and other areas have well over 10 years of documented history in other countries.PMMA not approved in US for penis injections and must be for certain reasons.
It is a shame that your viewpoint of US medical care is so biased. The fact that you hold it in such high regard and consider only the good ole US of A as 'reliable' displays ignorance. Some of the best physicians and hospitals in the world are found outside the USA. There are some on this board over 3 years out with no negative side effects. Big Fred is roughly 7 years out without complication. There are some unfortunate incidents of course but that can be said of ANY medical procedure. All Phalloplasty procedures are not without risk.Since it's not done in US, there isn't any reliable sources to say what happens to injections in the penis years after.
I hope you remain so. Skepticism will serve you well. I do NOT advocate or advise anyone to undergo PMMA Penile Bioplasty. However, in my educated opinion, it is the least invasive procedure and with sound scientific background/principle currently available.so Just cause I am sceptical, doesn't mean I am against it.
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13 years 8 months ago #1275784910I am waiting and watching the guys who have had injections on this board, so far looks good and hope it remains that way. Why, cause I want to have my Cock thickened up, so Just cause I am sceptical, doesn't mean I am against it.
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13 years 8 months ago #1275794400I agree that the injection of olive oil was foolish.it likely was not sterile so he injected bacteria into his penis which would explain chronic inflammation. PMMA, properly handled, is sterile.
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