--- title: "My (modified) P-Long Journey. Let’s get long! - PhalloBoards - Phalloboards" description: "Today I kicked off my P-Long(ish) journey, with the intent of making some modifications along the way. The protocol is interesting but feels like it could..." url: "https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10155481-my-modified-p-long-journey-lets-get-long.html" date: "2026-08-06T14:45:21+00:00" language: "en-GB" --- PhalloBoards - An Online Community to Discuss Penile Girth Enhancement General Forum Doctors Forum Username Password Remember me - [ Forgot your password? ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/reset.html?Itemid=101) - [ Forgot your username? ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/remind.html?Itemid=101) - [ Create an account ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) # TOPIC: My (modified) P-Long Journey. Let’s get long! ## My (modified) P-Long Journey. Let’s get long! 2 years 10 months ago [\#1308713983](#1308713983) - **[GrowthMindset](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6761948-growthmindset.html "View GrowthMindset's Profile")** - [![GrowthMindset's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6761948-growthmindset.html "View GrowthMindset's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6761948-growthmindset.html) - Pending Email Verification - ![Pending Email Verification](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank2.gif) - Posts: 85 - Thanks: 13 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=6761948) Today I kicked off my P-Long(ish) journey, with the intent of making some modifications along the way. The protocol is interesting but feels like it could benefit from some upgrades, and given that I’m an n=1 interested in results and not looking to run a clinical trial, I’m implementing it slightly differently from how Dr. Brandeis set it out. Here are my changes, all subject to change: - Using [ PRF](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platelet-rich_fibrin) instead of PRP - Adding heat and [ near infrared](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BTRXLHBL/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1) to extender sessions - Adding occasional [ therapeutic ultrasound](https://thunders.place/penis-enlargement/using-the-ultrasound-for-therapeutic-heat-in-pe.html) to extender sessions - Extender sessions of 45 mins vs 30 for the protocol - Shockwave therapy (ESWT) with the Storz Duolith (Class III med device, better than Gainswave) - 2 month cycle of [ tesamorelin](https://paradigmpeptides.com/2019/11/18/tesamorelin-the-game-changer-for-getting-ripped/) / [ ipamorelinipamorelin](https://valhallavitality.com/blog/ipamorelin-the-bodybuilders-dream-peptide) + CJC-1295CJC-1295 to boost IGF-1 and serum growth hormone levels - Exercises using the [ Angion Method](https://www.reddit.com/r/AngionMethod/) to drive vascular growth - Maintaining a slight caloric surplus throughout the protocol I’m sticking with the AFFIRM tablets, plus I take Genius Pre as a morning pre-workout supplement that contains 6g of L-Citruline and other nitric oxide boosters. Note that the tesamorelin/ipamorelin cycle was something I’d already been planning to do to add some muscle mass - it just seems interesting to time it together with this protocol. My PRF shot this morning was super easy, and I wore a ring for about 7 hours following the injection to try to keep the PRF in place as long as possible. Some stats: Pre session 1: BPFSL 18.1cm Post session 1: BPFSL 18.5cm I didn’t gather erect measurements today but will on subsequent sessions. My BPFSL tends to be pretty close to my max erect length. Happy to answer any questions along the way. And thanks to phalloguy100 for documenting his own journey. Pic of my extender setup attached. PS. Skeptical_One The forum software complained of too many links in the message and made me remove a bunch of URLs. Kind of annoying when trying to create an information-rich post. #### Attachments: - ## Hello Gentlemen! 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Let’s get long! 2 years 10 months ago [\#1308713984](#1308713984) - **[Skeptical\_One](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1704847-skeptical-one.html "View Skeptical_One's Profile")** - [![Skeptical_One's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar1704847.png?1781856569)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1704847-skeptical-one.html "View Skeptical_One's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1704847-skeptical-one.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 4979 - Thanks: 613 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1704847) Sorry about the links issue, I didn't even know there was a limit or cap on hyperlinks -- must be a preset on the backend probably originally intended to combat spam. It appears you have 7 links successfully imbedded, could you tell me how many you were trying to insert in total? I'm sure it's correctable but I also need to know what the upper bound is (trying to find how to modify something this specific on a forum built from the ground up is trickier than you can imagine, so knowing a specific parameter may make it easier for me to identify and correct). Also, while I can see that some of your modifications were inspired by techniques already employed by others on separate PE forums, I'm impressed with the overall commitment because that is quite an addendum to the protocol, and seems pricier than the standard P-Long Protocol just at first glance. May I ask, are you having your PFR & Devices through a P-Long affiliate or is this more of a personal experiment? 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Let’s get long! 2 years 10 months ago [\#1308713986](#1308713986) - **[GrowthMindset](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6761948-growthmindset.html "View GrowthMindset's Profile")** - [![GrowthMindset's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6761948-growthmindset.html "View GrowthMindset's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6761948-growthmindset.html) - Pending Email Verification - ![Pending Email Verification](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank2.gif) - Posts: 85 - Thanks: 13 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=6761948) 7 links seemed to be the upper limit. I bought the RestoreX, Affirm, and pump from Dr. Brandeis, but was unsuccessful finding a P-Long doc in NYC, so I went to Shafer for PRF. According to a post from [ ](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/6767893-p-long.html) [ @P-Long](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/profile/4922942-p.html) , the protocol calls for injections into each side of the corpus cavernosa followed by 5 minutes of blood flow restriction. That was easy enough to replicate. Last edit: by [GrowthMindset](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6761948-growthmindset.html "View GrowthMindset's Profile") Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZ2VuZXJhbC1mb3J1bS9wcm9ncmVzcy1yZXBvcnRzLXRoZS1wYXRpZW50LXN1cHBvcnQtZ3JvdXAvMTAxNTU0ODEtbXktbW9kaWZpZWQtcC1sb25nLWpvdXJuZXktbGV0cy1nZXQtbG9uZy5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTE=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: My (modified) P-Long Journey. Let’s get long! 2 years 10 months ago [\#1308713987](#1308713987) - **[Skeptical\_One](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1704847-skeptical-one.html "View Skeptical_One's Profile")** - [![Skeptical_One's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar1704847.png?1781856569)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1704847-skeptical-one.html "View Skeptical_One's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1704847-skeptical-one.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 4979 - Thanks: 613 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1704847) > GrowthMindset wrote: 7 links seemed to be the upper limit. > > I bought the RestoreX, Affirm, and pump from Dr. Brandeis, but was unsuccessful finding a P-Long doc in NYC, so I went to Shafer for PRF. > > According to a post from [ ](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/6767893-p-long.html) [ @P-Long](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/profile/4922942-p.html) , the protocol calls for injections into each side of the corpus cavernosa followed by 5 minutes of blood flow restriction. That was easy enough to replicate. Seven links? That's bizarre, I'll put it on my very long to-do list but it will be resolved in the near future. And as for Dr. Brandeis and Dr. Shafer, that's great! It most certainly helps this site and its mission when the network of Sponsors are primary considerations for any kind phallic procedure. It's a positive feedback loop that enables growth: A patient hears about a Sponsor through the PhalloBoards --> the Doctor(s) want to remain supportive of the PhalloBoards --> the PhalloBoards vets the best in the industry to ensure healthy competition (thus incentivizing innovation and competitive pricing) --> The servers remain online, maintained & moderated, building on the knowledge of the #1 Information Hub of this topic anywhere on the web --> New Visitors arrive --> and the loop starts all over again. It's a win for those involved with the operation of the PhalloBoards, a win for the Sponsors, and most importantly, a win for our Fraternal Community. From revisiting your altered protocol, it seems more like additions than any significant modifications. PRF is similar to PRP, and you changed 30min to 45min. Everything else seems like a combination of all the trending methods on Thundersplace. Sounds like you're in it to win it ![B)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/emoticons/1.png "B)"). If P-Long was analogous to a gym workout routine that was expected to yield gains, yours sounds like a gym workout routine while wearing heavy firefighter gear, to damn well ensure there are gains lol! You must be rather seasoned with PE exercises because the kind of commitment and additions/modifications you've made aren't for novices. And I should point out to anyone reading this, the P-Long itself is more than sufficient (and less complex) than what you're reading here, and I think that's the appeal for a lot of guys who would like to gain without surgery (if possible) through a relatively straightforward routine. In other words, don't let [ @GrowthMindset](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/6761948-growthmindset.html) 's Routine intimidate you haha ![:woohoo:](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/emoticons/w00t.png ":woohoo:"), his is a bit more advanced. Question though, I see no mention of a Penis Pump and could have sworn that was a part of P-Long's Protocol, no? I noticed on your list, you said "*Extender sessions of 45 mins vs 30 for the protocol*" **twice**. Maybe one of those lines were meant to mention the pump and you typo'd? Or did you choose to opt out of this component of the protocol altogether (and if so, why)? 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Let’s get long! 2 years 10 months ago [\#1308714108](#1308714108) - **[GrowthMindset](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6761948-growthmindset.html "View GrowthMindset's Profile")** - [![GrowthMindset's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6761948-growthmindset.html "View GrowthMindset's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6761948-growthmindset.html) - Pending Email Verification - ![Pending Email Verification](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank2.gif) - Posts: 85 - Thanks: 13 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=6761948) 1 week in. I’ve been averaging 45 mins of extender time and 20 minutes of pump time 2x/day. In the extender, I keep the infrared pad wrapped around it for all sessions where I’m not doing ultrasound. So far, I’ve done 3 ultrasound sessions, where I heat up in the extender with the IR pad for 10 mins, then do 20-25 mins of ultrasound, then another 10 mins of cool down in the extender with no heat. I’ve also bought and have been using a [ traditional heating pad](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DQW4LB7) wrapped around the tube when pumping. BPFSL isn’t necessarily the best measure as it tends to vary, but I was able to reach 18.7cm after an ultrasound session yesterday. When I go in for my next round of PRF, I’m planning to get the new, longer lasting Botox-like drug Daxxify injected into the corpus cavernosa to improve hang length, prevent turtling, and hopefully make it a bit easier to hold onto gains post PE session. 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Trying *very* hard to keep my measurements similar each time, but there’s undoubtedly a small error bar each time. The following user(s) said Thank You: [Skeptical\_One](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1704847-skeptical-one.html "View Skeptical_One's Profile") Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZ2VuZXJhbC1mb3J1bS9wcm9ncmVzcy1yZXBvcnRzLXRoZS1wYXRpZW50LXN1cHBvcnQtZ3JvdXAvMTAxNTU0ODEtbXktbW9kaWZpZWQtcC1sb25nLWpvdXJuZXktbGV0cy1nZXQtbG9uZy5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTE=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: My (modified) P-Long Journey. Let’s get long! 2 years 10 months ago [\#1308714324](#1308714324) - **[GrowthMindset](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6761948-growthmindset.html "View GrowthMindset's Profile")** - [![GrowthMindset's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6761948-growthmindset.html "View GrowthMindset's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6761948-growthmindset.html) - Pending Email Verification - ![Pending Email Verification](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank2.gif) - Posts: 85 - Thanks: 13 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=6761948) 3ML more PRF yesterday with 100 units of Xeomin (Botox but longer lasting) added to it. Pumping yesterday and today has me significantly larger post pump, but there’s also 3mL of additional fluid in me so it’s not a surprise. Not seeing any meaningful Erect gains yet. The following user(s) said Thank You: [LouPelli52565](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6768356-loupelli52565.html "View LouPelli52565's Profile") Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZ2VuZXJhbC1mb3J1bS9wcm9ncmVzcy1yZXBvcnRzLXRoZS1wYXRpZW50LXN1cHBvcnQtZ3JvdXAvMTAxNTU0ODEtbXktbW9kaWZpZWQtcC1sb25nLWpvdXJuZXktbGV0cy1nZXQtbG9uZy5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTE=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: My (modified) P-Long Journey. Let’s get long! 2 years 9 months ago [\#1308714474](#1308714474) - **[safe74](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/5084098-safe74.html "View safe74's Profile")** - [![safe74's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/5084098-safe74.html "View safe74's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/5084098-safe74.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 22 - Thanks: 2 - - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=5084098) I love the fact that you doing PRF instead of PRP. That should definitely make a difference. I had a few PRP and PRF myself. I experienced a huge difference. Did you consider IGF-1 LR3 instead of CJC-1295? Where do you inject? I read some inject directly into the penis. Can you post an update any Erect gains. 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Let’s get long! 2 years 8 months ago [\#1308714863](#1308714863) - **[Jlookie21](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6769981-jlookie21.html "View Jlookie21's Profile")** - [![Jlookie21's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6769981-jlookie21.html "View Jlookie21's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6769981-jlookie21.html) - Pending Email Verification - ![Pending Email Verification](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank2.gif) - Posts: 4 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=6769981) How is botox supposed to help? Curious. 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Let’s get long! 2 years 8 months ago [\#1308714895](#1308714895) - **[Skeptical\_One](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1704847-skeptical-one.html "View Skeptical_One's Profile")** - [![Skeptical_One's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar1704847.png?1781856569)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1704847-skeptical-one.html "View Skeptical_One's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1704847-skeptical-one.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 4979 - Thanks: 613 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1704847) > Jlookie21 wrote: How is botox supposed to help? Curious. Botox is typically used to help block nerves from contracting, and in turn can help the penis (or scrotum) "*relax*", thus yielding a better "*hang.*" A few Practitioners already offer it here, and I hear the effect ranges from a month to 3 months; may not seem like a long time but when packaged with these procedures, the cost of the Botox is arguably negligible (besides, Botox is so common, just going in for another injection likely isn't going to be cost-prohibitive). 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Let’s get long! 2 years 8 months ago [\#1308714921](#1308714921) - **[Dickwhitman79](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760583-dickwhitman79.html "View Dickwhitman79's Profile")** - [![Dickwhitman79's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760583-dickwhitman79.html "View Dickwhitman79's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760583-dickwhitman79.html) - Pending Email Verification - ![Pending Email Verification](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank2.gif) - Posts: 305 - Thanks: 62 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=6760583) > Skeptical_One wrote: > Jlookie21 wrote: How is botox supposed to help? Curious. > > > Botox is typically used to help block nerves from contracting, and in turn can help the penis (or scrotum) "*relax*", thus yielding a better "*hang.*" > > A few Practitioners already offer it here, and I hear the effect ranges from a month to 3 months; may not seem like a long time but when packaged with these procedures, the cost of the Botox is arguably negligible (besides, Botox is so common, just going in for another injection likely isn't going to be cost-prohibitive). I would assume that’s valuable because then the penis doesn’t turtle as much and allows for better results with aftercare etc . 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Let’s get long! 2 years 7 months ago [\#1308714981](#1308714981) - **[Skeptical\_One](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1704847-skeptical-one.html "View Skeptical_One's Profile")** - [![Skeptical_One's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar1704847.png?1781856569)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1704847-skeptical-one.html "View Skeptical_One's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1704847-skeptical-one.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 4979 - Thanks: 613 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1704847) > Dickwhitman79 wrote: > Skeptical_One wrote: > Jlookie21 wrote: How is botox supposed to help? Curious. > > > > > > Botox is typically used to help block nerves from contracting, and in turn can help the penis (or scrotum) "*relax*", thus yielding a better "*hang.*" > > > > A few Practitioners already offer it here, and I hear the effect ranges from a month to 3 months; may not seem like a long time but when packaged with these procedures, the cost of the Botox is arguably negligible (besides, Botox is so common, just going in for another injection likely isn't going to be cost-prohibitive). > > > I would assume that’s valuable because then the penis doesn’t turtle as much and allows for better results with aftercare etc . Precisely! It's not only useful for Aftercare & Results, but an alternative therapy for mega-growers well after they've retired from any additional procedures. I've been told it can give Balls a real nice hang especially (also known as Scrotox). 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