--- title: "Just made my appointment for Ellanse with Avanti Derma - PhalloBoards - Phalloboards" description: "Very excited as I just made my appointment for Ellanse with Avanti Derma on Jan 14th. I've been thinking about this my whole life... - Page 4" url: "https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10152878-just-made-my-appointment-for-ellanse-with-avanti-derma.html?start=45" date: "2026-08-06T23:22:34+00:00" language: "en-GB" --- PhalloBoards - An Online Community to Discuss Penile Girth Enhancement General Forum Doctors Forum Username Password Remember me - [ Forgot your password? ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/reset.html?Itemid=101) - [ Forgot your username? ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/remind.html?Itemid=101) - [ Create an account ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) # TOPIC: Just made my appointment for Ellanse with Avanti Derma ## Re: Just made my appointment for Ellanse with Avanti Derma 6 years 6 months ago [\#1308696270](#1308696270) - **[Dnc008s](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4928624-dnc008s.html "View Dnc008s's Profile")** - [![Dnc008s's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4928624-dnc008s.html "View Dnc008s's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4928624-dnc008s.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 13 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4928624) Hi. Thank you for the updates. I.am considering Dr. C for Ellanse as well. Can you describe your Flacid state after the Ellanse. Are you Hanging lower and better? Less retraction? Thank you. 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They were great with everything and the aftercare was amazing. When I'm Flaccid, I hang about .5 to .75 Inch or so lower. I still have a bit of swelling so I am not sure that is the final result, but either way it is a nice perk. My wife definitely noticed the extra hang. She assumed I was excited when I wasnt. 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That is great to hear about the lower hang. Is everything still looking good? Hanging good? 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I even went swimming and afterward didnt have the normal retraction from the cold water! Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZ2VuZXJhbC1mb3J1bS9wcm9ncmVzcy1yZXBvcnRzLXRoZS1wYXRpZW50LXN1cHBvcnQtZ3JvdXAvMTAxNTI4NzgtanVzdC1tYWRlLW15LWFwcG9pbnRtZW50LWZvci1lbGxhbnNlLXdpdGgtYXZhbnRpLWRlcm1hLmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MSZzdGFydD00NQ==) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Just made my appointment for Ellanse with Avanti Derma 6 years 6 months ago [\#1308696387](#1308696387) - **[Royality](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760015-royality.html "View Royality's Profile")** - [![Royality's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760015-royality.html "View Royality's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760015-royality.html) - Pending Email Verification - ![Pending Email Verification](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank2.gif) - Posts: 16 - Thanks: 1 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=6760015) > Noxcuse wrote: Yes, seems to be about the same still. I even went swimming and afterward didnt have the normal retraction from the cold water! Does it hurt to get Erect ? 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The first few days it was sore and tender but having an Erection didnt hurt at all. 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I was going to go Morganstern until I could not. Dr. C will be picking up a lot of Ellanse biz forsure. Thanks for your posts. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZ2VuZXJhbC1mb3J1bS9wcm9ncmVzcy1yZXBvcnRzLXRoZS1wYXRpZW50LXN1cHBvcnQtZ3JvdXAvMTAxNTI4NzgtanVzdC1tYWRlLW15LWFwcG9pbnRtZW50LWZvci1lbGxhbnNlLXdpdGgtYXZhbnRpLWRlcm1hLmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MSZzdGFydD00NQ==) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Just made my appointment for Ellanse with Avanti Derma 6 years 6 months ago [\#1308696474](#1308696474) - **[Skinny123](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760047-skinny123.html "View Skinny123's Profile")** - [![Skinny123's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760047-skinny123.html "View Skinny123's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760047-skinny123.html) - Pending Email Verification - ![Pending Email Verification](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank2.gif) - Posts: 18 - Thanks: 1 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=6760047) Do you have any hard spots? Maybe sore too? 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One on the left side, about 3/4 Inch flat disc feeling. Then on the base of my shaft where it attaches to the pubic area. I can feel where the product ends and my 'old' penis was. Almost like a ridge. Nothing terrible, I tried to show them to my wife and even after I showed her, she still couldn't feel or see it. I am also still sore! I am definitely having more sex than usual, so maybe that is it, but I tried pumping last night and i could barely get any pressure without feeling like something was going to pop. I guess i am still not completely healed. It is strange when i read other progress reports of people feeling fine after 2 or 3 days. We are going on 2.5 weeks and it is still a bit sore and tender. On the plus side, I am still at 1 Inch increase in Flaccid Girth and .75 in Erect Girth. At the base I am only .5, so it seems most settled in the middle. I'm planning on heading back down after 3 months or so to get the low areas touched up and if I shrink a little more, I'd like to get my 1" Girth goal at the same time. 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Just making sure we are in the same boat. Most of the pain has gone for me though. Also the swelling, which kind of sucks. 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Any problems displacing filler? I’m having my 3rd round of PMMA and I’m considering finding something a little more comfortable easier to use for longer periods of time. 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Did they use stitches to close them? Where were the entry points made? Sorry for all of the questions! I didn’t have a great first round and I think a lot of it was related to issues with the entry points. I definitely should have gone to Avanti. 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I may try it again soon as I feel it will be like starting over since I haven't used it in a while. Maybe I'll be able to get another .5 out of it if I'm lucky! 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