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## Progress Reports &amp; The Patient Support Group

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###  [Pmma nodules](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153364-pmma-nodules.html "Has anyone tried to inject in pmma noodles Dmso and iodine ? Do u think its gonna work , i think its gonna help")

 Topic started 5 years 9 months ago, by [anon98](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760193-anon98.html "View anon98's Profile")

 [Last Post](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153364-pmma-nodules.html#1308700084 "Do not self-inject anything! If you have nodules, have your performing physician (or someone qualified in resolving aesthetic irregularities) correct it for you. Also please be mindful of your...")  5 years 9 months ago by [Skeptical\_One](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1704847-skeptical-one.html "View Skeptical_One's Profile")

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 [Last Post](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153364-pmma-nodules.html#1308700084 "Do not self-inject anything! If you have nodules, have your performing physician (or someone qualified in resolving aesthetic irregularities) correct it for you. Also please be mindful of your...") by [Skeptical\_One](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1704847-skeptical-one.html "View Skeptical_One's Profile")  5 years 9 months ago

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###  [PMMA just over 24hours ago and freaking out (Photos Inside)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153359-pmma-just-over-24hours-ago-and-freaking-out-photos-inside.html "I’ve been a long time lurker on this forum and finally pulled the trigger. I’ll be sure to to write a separate post with all the details later but I’m just hoping to get some advise and...")

 Topic started 5 years 9 months ago, by [Pencil](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6761029-pencil.html "View Pencil's Profile")

 [Last Post](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153359-pmma-just-over-24hours-ago-and-freaking-out-photos-inside.html#1308700052 "PMMA's uses in aesthetic medicine had (or still has) popular appeal in Brazil, I'd imagine there are a number of practitioners who can offer it -- however, it's very difficult to assess the quality...")  5 years 9 months ago by [Skeptical\_One](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1704847-skeptical-one.html "View Skeptical_One's Profile")

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 [Last Post](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153359-pmma-just-over-24hours-ago-and-freaking-out-photos-inside.html#1308700052 "PMMA's uses in aesthetic medicine had (or still has) popular appeal in Brazil, I'd imagine there are a number of practitioners who can offer it -- however, it's very difficult to assess the quality...") by [Skeptical\_One](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1704847-skeptical-one.html "View Skeptical_One's Profile")  5 years 9 months ago

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###  [Age and collagen production with PMMA](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153362-age-and-collagen-production-with-pmma.html "i'll take my first round middle november. i was thinking about collagen production in our organism. do you think is important the age with collagen producer? when you are older your collagen levels...")

 Topic started 5 years 9 months ago, by [Dobra69](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760582-dobra69.html "View Dobra69's Profile")

 [Last Post](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153362-age-and-collagen-production-with-pmma.html#1308700044 "i'll take my first round middle november. i was thinking about collagen production in our organism. do you think is important the age with collagen producer? when you are older your collagen levels...")  5 years 9 months ago by [Dobra69](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760582-dobra69.html "View Dobra69's Profile")

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 [Last Post](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153362-age-and-collagen-production-with-pmma.html#1308700044 "i'll take my first round middle november. i was thinking about collagen production in our organism. do you think is important the age with collagen producer? when you are older your collagen levels...") by [Dobra69](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760582-dobra69.html "View Dobra69's Profile")  5 years 9 months ago

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###  [PMMA w/ Dr. C @Avantiderma (Photos Inside)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153352-pmma-w-dr-c-avantiderma-photos-inside.html "I went to Avantiderma today 10/6/20. Met with Dr C. Fill out some paperwork and got started right away. I got the Utmost package includes prp, light therapy, glans enhancement, scrotox and phallotox....")

 Topic started 5 years 9 months ago, by [ml4z4rin](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760743-ml4z4rin.html "View ml4z4rin's Profile")

 [Last Post](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153352-pmma-w-dr-c-avantiderma-photos-inside.html#1308700043 "The Scrotox I'm liking. The boys usually stay up against my body all the time. But now they are out and about all the time :)

The Phallotox is working as well. I think it helps a lot with preventing...")  5 years 9 months ago by [ml4z4rin](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760743-ml4z4rin.html "View ml4z4rin's Profile")

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 [Last Post](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153352-pmma-w-dr-c-avantiderma-photos-inside.html#1308700043 "The Scrotox I'm liking. The boys usually stay up against my body all the time. But now they are out and about all the time :)

The Phallotox is working as well. I think it helps a lot with preventing...") by [ml4z4rin](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760743-ml4z4rin.html "View ml4z4rin's Profile")  5 years 9 months ago

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###  [After 2 rounds of Ellanse with Dr Oates. (Photos Inside)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10152889-after-2-rounds-of-ellanse-with-dr-oates-photos-inside.html "I went for Ellanse with Dr Oates in August 2018 and August 2019. Before I saw Dr Oates, I had my circumcision, vasectomy, and lig cut done in that order. This is my journey.

Before everything.
NBPEL...")

 Topic started 6 years 7 months ago, by [Dekachin](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2034978-dekachin.html "View Dekachin's Profile")

 [Last Post](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10152889-after-2-rounds-of-ellanse-with-dr-oates-photos-inside.html#1308699950 "Congrats on your great results. A 3.4cm / 1.3inch gain is great ,just from 2 rounds and 23ml´s.

You just went from an average girth (4.6") to top 0,1% 6"+girth territory
Maybe collagen will also...")  5 years 10 months ago by [fightclub](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760417-fightclub.html "View fightclub's Profile")

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 [Last Post](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10152889-after-2-rounds-of-ellanse-with-dr-oates-photos-inside.html#1308699950 "Congrats on your great results. A 3.4cm / 1.3inch gain is great ,just from 2 rounds and 23ml´s.

You just went from an average girth (4.6") to top 0,1% 6"+girth territory
Maybe collagen will also...") by [fightclub](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760417-fightclub.html "View fightclub's Profile")  5 years 10 months ago

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###  [My journey for a bigger one - Girth Enhancement (Photos inside)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153277-my-journey-for-a-bigger-one-girth-enhancement-photos-inside.html "Hey everyone.

Creating this progress report to track and share my journey.

I'll target girth for now and hope I get some decent flacid length. I'm planning to get either HA or Ellanse with Dr. C in...")

 Topic started 5 years 11 months ago, by [upgraded](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/3192487-upgraded.html "View upgraded's Profile")

 [Last Post](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153277-my-journey-for-a-bigger-one-girth-enhancement-photos-inside.html?start=15#1308699907 "When you were 15? The gains didn't go away because that was puberty boss. My penis are from the age of 15-21 without doing anything. Try as an adult and see what happens. I did PE for a while. Gained...")  5 years 10 months ago by [New1inch](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1727852-new1inch.html "View New1inch's Profile")

- [1](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153277-my-journey-for-a-bigger-one-girth-enhancement-photos-inside.html?start=0 "Page:1")
- [2](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153277-my-journey-for-a-bigger-one-girth-enhancement-photos-inside.html?start=15 "Page:2")

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 [Last Post](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153277-my-journey-for-a-bigger-one-girth-enhancement-photos-inside.html?start=15#1308699907 "When you were 15? The gains didn't go away because that was puberty boss. My penis are from the age of 15-21 without doing anything. Try as an adult and see what happens. I did PE for a while. Gained...") by [New1inch](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1727852-new1inch.html "View New1inch's Profile")  5 years 10 months ago

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###  [My PMMA Journey - First Procedure Scheduled 9/17 (Photos Inside)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153333-my-pmma-journey-first-procedure-scheduled-9-17-photos-inside.html "Hello all,

I am very excited that I just scheduled my first PMMA procedure with Dr. Morales for Monday afternoon. I will keep you guys in the loop with pictures and detailed explanations of my...")

 Topic started 5 years 10 months ago, by [Chop](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760684-chop.html "View Chop's Profile")

 [Last Post](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153333-my-pmma-journey-first-procedure-scheduled-9-17-photos-inside.html?start=30#1308699895 "That's great news. Tx Skeptical.")  5 years 10 months ago by [Sketch2000](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760845-sketch2000.html "View Sketch2000's Profile")

- [1](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153333-my-pmma-journey-first-procedure-scheduled-9-17-photos-inside.html?start=0 "Page:1")
- [2](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153333-my-pmma-journey-first-procedure-scheduled-9-17-photos-inside.html?start=15 "Page:2")
- [3](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153333-my-pmma-journey-first-procedure-scheduled-9-17-photos-inside.html?start=30 "Page:3")

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 [Last Post](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153333-my-pmma-journey-first-procedure-scheduled-9-17-photos-inside.html?start=30#1308699895 "That's great news. Tx Skeptical.") by [Sketch2000](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760845-sketch2000.html "View Sketch2000's Profile")  5 years 10 months ago

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###  [GIrthUp's Round #3 PMMA - Avanti Derma (Photos Inside)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153334-girthups-round-3-pmma-avanti-derma-photos-inside.html "Flew into SD and took the shuttle service to the Grand TJ. Staying for 2 nights. Besides standard COVID procedures, it has been business as usual. Went to buffet, showered, and off to get the...")

 Topic started 5 years 10 months ago, by [girthup](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1835107-girthup.html "View girthup's Profile")

 [Last Post](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153334-girthups-round-3-pmma-avanti-derma-photos-inside.html#1308699871 "What’s your flaccid and erect length? It’s missing from your signature for some reason.")  5 years 10 months ago by [New1inch](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1727852-new1inch.html "View New1inch's Profile")

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 [Last Post](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153334-girthups-round-3-pmma-avanti-derma-photos-inside.html#1308699871 "What’s your flaccid and erect length? It’s missing from your signature for some reason.") by [New1inch](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1727852-new1inch.html "View New1inch's Profile")  5 years 10 months ago

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###  [PMMA Second Round in Prague- Progress Report, Advice Welcomed (Photos Inside)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10152902-pmma-second-round-in-prague-progress-report-advice-welcomed-photos-inside.html "Just had second round in Prague. Results are not very good after 7 days. No problems of infection, but I just didn;t get what I wanted. I've already spent like 9000 dollars on this shit and it's not...")

 Topic started 6 years 7 months ago, by [antoineclamaran](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4587551-antoineclamaran.html "View antoineclamaran's Profile")

 [Last Post](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10152902-pmma-second-round-in-prague-progress-report-advice-welcomed-photos-inside.html#1308699703 "Can you upload errect pics to see the spot below the glanse. Overall I see a very aesthetic looking uncut Penis.")  5 years 10 months ago by [Joytoy](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6630131-joytoy.html "View Joytoy's Profile")

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 [Last Post](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10152902-pmma-second-round-in-prague-progress-report-advice-welcomed-photos-inside.html#1308699703 "Can you upload errect pics to see the spot below the glanse. Overall I see a very aesthetic looking uncut Penis.") by [Joytoy](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6630131-joytoy.html "View Joytoy's Profile")  5 years 10 months ago

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###  [Case report 7211-ROM by Dr Morales at Avanti Derma (Photos Inside)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153308-case-report-7211-rom-by-dr-morales-at-avanti-derma-photos-inside.html "46-year-old patient circumcised who came for his first elective phalloplasty procedure, he authorized the use of his clinical pictures. No history of past cosmetic or surgical procedures. He did 2...")

 Topic started 5 years 11 months ago, by [Avanti\_Derma](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4705343-avanti-derma.html "View Avanti_Derma's Profile")

 [Last Post](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153308-case-report-7211-rom-by-dr-morales-at-avanti-derma-photos-inside.html?start=15#1308699611 "Hi Dr Morales, Im a potential candidate for a filling enhancement procedure. How would you compare PMMA vs Ellanse? I have already seen that PMMA seems to be permanent while Ellanse lasts from 3 to 5...")  5 years 10 months ago by [jasonflorida10](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760984-jasonflorida10.html "View jasonflorida10's Profile")

- [1](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153308-case-report-7211-rom-by-dr-morales-at-avanti-derma-photos-inside.html?start=0 "Page:1")
- [2](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153308-case-report-7211-rom-by-dr-morales-at-avanti-derma-photos-inside.html?start=15 "Page:2")

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 [Last Post](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153308-case-report-7211-rom-by-dr-morales-at-avanti-derma-photos-inside.html?start=15#1308699611 "Hi Dr Morales, Im a potential candidate for a filling enhancement procedure. How would you compare PMMA vs Ellanse? I have already seen that PMMA seems to be permanent while Ellanse lasts from 3 to 5...") by [jasonflorida10](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760984-jasonflorida10.html "View jasonflorida10's Profile")  5 years 10 months ago

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###  [10 ML HA Girth &amp; Glans @ Morganstern Rejuvall (Photos Inside)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153307-10-ml-ha-girth-glans-morganstern-rejuvall-photos-inside.html "On Sept 1st I went to Morganstern Rejuvall In Atlanta and was seen by Dr. Carney. I got 10 ML of Juvèderm HCI-Hyaluronic Acid girth filler and also Glans enlargement:

I don’t have my exact Pre and...")

 Topic started 5 years 11 months ago, by [Lakers248](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760930-lakers248.html "View Lakers248's Profile")

 [Last Post](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153307-10-ml-ha-girth-glans-morganstern-rejuvall-photos-inside.html?start=15#1308699578 "EQ is erection quality. I want to say that you have a real thick one there, holy shit. I’m hoping to get to 6” EG but I don’t believe it’s gonna happen. If you got 7” EG it’s gonna be hard...")  5 years 10 months ago by [snakecharm3r](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760616-snakecharm3r.html "View snakecharm3r's Profile")

- [1](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153307-10-ml-ha-girth-glans-morganstern-rejuvall-photos-inside.html?start=0 "Page:1")
- [2](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153307-10-ml-ha-girth-glans-morganstern-rejuvall-photos-inside.html?start=15 "Page:2")

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 [Last Post](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153307-10-ml-ha-girth-glans-morganstern-rejuvall-photos-inside.html?start=15#1308699578 "EQ is erection quality. I want to say that you have a real thick one there, holy shit. I’m hoping to get to 6” EG but I don’t believe it’s gonna happen. If you got 7” EG it’s gonna be hard...") by [snakecharm3r](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760616-snakecharm3r.html "View snakecharm3r's Profile")  5 years 10 months ago

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###  [Turtling Pics](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153313-turtling-pics.html "I thought the filler adds flaccid length ... do people have any pics with turtling")

 Topic started 5 years 10 months ago, by [Money1300](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4456497-money1300.html "View Money1300's Profile")

 [Last Post](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153313-turtling-pics.html#1308699393 "The filler adds the appearance of flaccid length. Fillers in it of themselves don't generate any "new" length, but instead, inhibit or limit the amount your penis retracts than it normally would...")  5 years 10 months ago by [Skeptical\_One](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1704847-skeptical-one.html "View Skeptical_One's Profile")

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 [Last Post](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153313-turtling-pics.html#1308699393 "The filler adds the appearance of flaccid length. Fillers in it of themselves don't generate any "new" length, but instead, inhibit or limit the amount your penis retracts than it normally would...") by [Skeptical\_One](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1704847-skeptical-one.html "View Skeptical_One's Profile")  5 years 10 months ago

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###  [Over 20 ccs of ellanse. (Photos Inside)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153297-over-20-ccs-of-ellanse-photos-inside.html "So I recently just finished my second touch up for ellanse.

My original procedure I was about 4.4 at midshaft, after the first I was 5.25, and now I am about 5.75.

I got my first procedure done in...")

 Topic started 5 years 11 months ago, by [wannabebig1](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6759959-wannabebig1.html "View wannabebig1's Profile")

 [Last Post](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153297-over-20-ccs-of-ellanse-photos-inside.html#1308699329 "Also.. totally forgot to ask. How was the bruising after the touch up round?? Was it as bad as the first time? How long did it last?")  5 years 11 months ago by [dstern22](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2001376-dstern22.html "View dstern22's Profile")

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 [Last Post](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153297-over-20-ccs-of-ellanse-photos-inside.html#1308699329 "Also.. totally forgot to ask. How was the bruising after the touch up round?? Was it as bad as the first time? How long did it last?") by [dstern22](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2001376-dstern22.html "View dstern22's Profile")  5 years 11 months ago

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###  [Staying in the US for procedures at Avanti?](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153281-staying-in-the-us-for-procedures-at-avanti.html "Just curious, but has anyone stayed on the US side of the border when having a procedure done at Avanti?

I'm still looking at all options, but this is one thing that popped into my head. I have a...")

 Topic started 5 years 11 months ago, by [user78476](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760929-user78476.html "View user78476's Profile")

 [Last Post](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153281-staying-in-the-us-for-procedures-at-avanti.html#1308699218 "There are Hyatt's and Marriots in TJ. Not sure what brand you are looking for. There is a Hyatt within walking distance. There is no way in Hell I would stay in SD and go back and forth every day....")  5 years 11 months ago by [dstern22](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2001376-dstern22.html "View dstern22's Profile")

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 [Last Post](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153281-staying-in-the-us-for-procedures-at-avanti.html#1308699218 "There are Hyatt's and Marriots in TJ. Not sure what brand you are looking for. There is a Hyatt within walking distance. There is no way in Hell I would stay in SD and go back and forth every day....") by [dstern22](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2001376-dstern22.html "View dstern22's Profile")  5 years 11 months ago

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###  [Progress report FFT by DR. Giunta (Photos Inside)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10152909-progress-report-fft-by-dr-giunta-photos-inside.html "I recently had FFT done on 12/19. After about 8 days all of the initial swelling has seemed to go away. I have decent gains so far. From 5.5 inch MS to 6 inch behind glans 7 1/4 inch MS and 8 inch...")

 Topic started 6 years 7 months ago, by [Little\_DeeJay](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760012-little-deejay.html "View Little_DeeJay's Profile")

 [Last Post](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10152909-progress-report-fft-by-dr-giunta-photos-inside.html?start=15#1308699163 "Could you tell which doc you used for the lig cut and FFT? Is the lig completely cut or kind of reassembled?

7inch is a lot.")  5 years 11 months ago by [Joytoy](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6630131-joytoy.html "View Joytoy's Profile")

- [1](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10152909-progress-report-fft-by-dr-giunta-photos-inside.html?start=0 "Page:1")
- [2](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10152909-progress-report-fft-by-dr-giunta-photos-inside.html?start=15 "Page:2")

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 [Last Post](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10152909-progress-report-fft-by-dr-giunta-photos-inside.html?start=15#1308699163 "Could you tell which doc you used for the lig cut and FFT? Is the lig completely cut or kind of reassembled?

7inch is a lot.") by [Joytoy](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6630131-joytoy.html "View Joytoy's Profile")  5 years 11 months ago

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###  [Travel Restrictions](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153258-travel-restrictions.html "Hello guys,

I am writing this note knowing that conditions may change even before I finish it, but here I go.
As of today, there are only 9 out of 195 Countries of the world that do not impose any...")

 Topic started 5 years 11 months ago, by [Avanti\_Derma](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4705343-avanti-derma.html "View Avanti_Derma's Profile")

 [Last Post](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153258-travel-restrictions.html#1308699031 "Hello guys,

I am writing this note knowing that conditions may change even before I finish it, but here I go.
As of today, there are only 9 out of 195 Countries of the world that do not impose any...")  5 years 11 months ago by [Avanti\_Derma](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4705343-avanti-derma.html "View Avanti_Derma's Profile")

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 [Last Post](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153258-travel-restrictions.html#1308699031 "Hello guys,

I am writing this note knowing that conditions may change even before I finish it, but here I go.
As of today, there are only 9 out of 195 Countries of the world that do not impose any...") by [Avanti\_Derma](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4705343-avanti-derma.html "View Avanti_Derma's Profile")  5 years 11 months ago

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###  [Chemical PE (PGE-1, HCG, IGF-1)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153128-chemical-pe-pge-1-hcg-igf-1.html "Hello all,

this is my first post here. I plan to start 4 week cycle with intracavernosal injections of10ug PGE1 and 4ug IGF-1 LR3 every other day with subcutaneous 250IU HCGevery other days in...")

 Topic started 6 years 1 month ago, by [MrAlprostadil](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760636-mralprostadil.html "View MrAlprostadil's Profile")

 [Last Post](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153128-chemical-pe-pge-1-hcg-igf-1.html#1308698929 "How has your IGF been going? or did you start it ?

i am about to begin an IGF-Des routine.")  6 years 20 hours ago by [Texas](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6380043-texas.html "View Texas's Profile")

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 [Last Post](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153128-chemical-pe-pge-1-hcg-igf-1.html#1308698929 "How has your IGF been going? or did you start it ?

i am about to begin an IGF-Des routine.") by [Texas](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6380043-texas.html "View Texas's Profile")  6 years 20 hours ago

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###  [Pmma Round 1 Review](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153236-pmma-round-1-review.html "Originally, I didn't feel like leaving a post-op review (out of pure laziness).... BUT I know I got a lot of value out of reading other people's reports, asking questions and having them answered in a...")

 Topic started 6 years 5 days ago, by [lb44597](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760638-lb44597.html "View lb44597's Profile")

 [Last Post](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153236-pmma-round-1-review.html#1308698906 "keep us updated bro")  6 years 3 days ago by [unknow1948](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760610-unknow1948.html "View unknow1948's Profile")

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 [Last Post](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153236-pmma-round-1-review.html#1308698906 "keep us updated bro") by [unknow1948](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760610-unknow1948.html "View unknow1948's Profile")  6 years 3 days ago

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###  [30ml total - Ellanse E](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10152849-30ml-total-ellanse-e.html "Oh yeah, Y'all read that right! I'm now up to 30ml with Ellanse, over 3 rounds.

This is just a quick post to update the group on this landmark event . hahahahaha. OK seriously. This is not...")

 Topic started 6 years 10 months ago, by [Texas](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6380043-texas.html "View Texas's Profile")

 [Last Post](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10152849-30ml-total-ellanse-e.html?start=30#1308698865 "Other than posting some updated pictures. nothing much has changed. I am still PE'ing daily trying to get some extra length. Looking for an excuse to get a touch up at the end of the year or...")  6 years 4 days ago by [Texas](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6380043-texas.html "View Texas's Profile")

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- [2](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10152849-30ml-total-ellanse-e.html?start=15 "Page:2")
- [3](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10152849-30ml-total-ellanse-e.html?start=30 "Page:3")

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 [Last Post](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10152849-30ml-total-ellanse-e.html?start=30#1308698865 "Other than posting some updated pictures. nothing much has changed. I am still PE'ing daily trying to get some extra length. Looking for an excuse to get a touch up at the end of the year or...") by [Texas](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6380043-texas.html "View Texas's Profile")  6 years 4 days ago

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###  [Share your short or long term issues with PMMA here](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153178-share-your-short-or-long-term-issues-with-pmma-here.html "Hopefully this is an acceptable idea to the moderators - I expect I am not alone, as someone who is on the fence about if I should or shouldn't do this, and if I should go with PMMA or Ellanse. It...")

 Topic started 6 years 1 month ago, by [jacknimble](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760666-jacknimble.html "View jacknimble's Profile")

 [Last Post](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153178-share-your-short-or-long-term-issues-with-pmma-here.html?start=15#1308698857 "First off hopefully you've researched a bit on how PMMA functions.

Initially, in the first few days after injection, yes the carrier and microspheres with it can move around from physical...")  6 years 5 days ago by [justn8](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1800690-justn8.html "View justn8's Profile")

- [1](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153178-share-your-short-or-long-term-issues-with-pmma-here.html?start=0 "Page:1")
- [2](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153178-share-your-short-or-long-term-issues-with-pmma-here.html?start=15 "Page:2")

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 [Last Post](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153178-share-your-short-or-long-term-issues-with-pmma-here.html?start=15#1308698857 "First off hopefully you've researched a bit on how PMMA functions.

Initially, in the first few days after injection, yes the carrier and microspheres with it can move around from physical...") by [justn8](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1800690-justn8.html "View justn8's Profile")  6 years 5 days ago

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###  [PMMA for Uncut Guys](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153083-pmma-for-uncut-guys.html "Hi Folks,

I wanted to create this thread to hear the experiences for uncut guys––although hearing the knowledge by cut guys is equally important––and the progress after having PMMA session(s).

Thank you!")

 Topic started 6 years 3 months ago, by [liber1440](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760446-liber1440.html "View liber1440's Profile")

 [Last Post](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153083-pmma-for-uncut-guys.html#1308698677 "Low and tight is more recommended because there’s is less internal foreskin remaining.")  6 years 2 weeks ago by [Hyperbol](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760514-hyperbol.html "View Hyperbol's Profile")

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 [Last Post](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153083-pmma-for-uncut-guys.html#1308698677 "Low and tight is more recommended because there’s is less internal foreskin remaining.") by [Hyperbol](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760514-hyperbol.html "View Hyperbol's Profile")  6 years 2 weeks ago

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###  [20 ML Ellanse](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10152927-20-ml-ellanse.html "So I completed my second round of Ellanse. I am sitting at 20 ML and am very happy with the results. The wife loves it and it wears her out. I am wondering if I want to go for 10 ml more, but to be...")

 Topic started 6 years 7 months ago, by [jb560](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/5854549-jb560.html "View jb560's Profile")

 [Last Post](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10152927-20-ml-ellanse.html#1308698663 "I want to say each round was about $6,000. As for the type, I don't remember but he did say its supposed to last 4 years.[/quote]

Thanks for the update.

After your second session, how do you feel about...")  6 years 2 weeks ago by [Liberati](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760775-liberati.html "View Liberati's Profile")

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 [Last Post](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10152927-20-ml-ellanse.html#1308698663 "I want to say each round was about $6,000. As for the type, I don't remember but he did say its supposed to last 4 years.[/quote]

Thanks for the update.

After your second session, how do you feel about...") by [Liberati](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760775-liberati.html "View Liberati's Profile")  6 years 2 weeks ago

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###  [CSF's PMMA journey](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153194-csfs-pmma-journey.html "I had major surgery when I was in high school and that caused some issues for me, like erection quality which lead to a decrease in size and triggered a bit of dysmorphia. Prior to finding this forum,...")

 Topic started 6 years 3 weeks ago, by [csf84](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2055546-csf84.html "View csf84's Profile")

 [Last Post](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153194-csfs-pmma-journey.html#1308698587 "Thanks, brother!

Due to life, good things, I had to postpone round 2 for about 3-4weeks.")  6 years 3 weeks ago by [csf84](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2055546-csf84.html "View csf84's Profile")

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 [Last Post](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153194-csfs-pmma-journey.html#1308698587 "Thanks, brother!

Due to life, good things, I had to postpone round 2 for about 3-4weeks.") by [csf84](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2055546-csf84.html "View csf84's Profile")  6 years 3 weeks ago

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###  [YoungBlood progress report Adult Circ. / PMMA / Glans](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153157-youngblood-progress-report-adult-circ-pmma-glans.html "Hello everyone. First of all I would like to thank all the contributors to this forum. Sharing your experiences helped me to successful navigate the somewhat daunting world of international travel and...")

 Topic started 6 years 1 month ago, by [YoungBlood](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760689-youngblood.html "View YoungBlood's Profile")

 [Last Post](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153157-youngblood-progress-report-adult-circ-pmma-glans.html#1308698569 "Dr. Cornell in Atlanta doesn’t recommend the ring method. Nocturnal erections shouldn’t be painful after a circ and this can damage scar line. I’d imagine it’s also more difficult to keep the...")  6 years 3 weeks ago by [Hyperbol](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760514-hyperbol.html "View Hyperbol's Profile")

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 [Last Post](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153157-youngblood-progress-report-adult-circ-pmma-glans.html#1308698569 "Dr. Cornell in Atlanta doesn’t recommend the ring method. Nocturnal erections shouldn’t be painful after a circ and this can damage scar line. I’d imagine it’s also more difficult to keep the...") by [Hyperbol](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760514-hyperbol.html "View Hyperbol's Profile")  6 years 3 weeks ago

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###  [1 Nodule, 1 Major Clump after PMMA Round 3 with Dr. Morales (Photos Inside)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153089-1-nodule-1-major-clump-after-pmma-round-3-with-dr-morales-photos-inside.html "Let me start by apologizing for my inconsistency on these forums. As you might expect, I believe people drop off of these things when everything is going ok, and only emerge when there is a problem....")

 Topic started 6 years 3 months ago, by [iwantfullfrontal](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4492606-iwantfullfrontal.html "View iwantfullfrontal's Profile")

 [Last Post](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153089-1-nodule-1-major-clump-after-pmma-round-3-with-dr-morales-photos-inside.html?start=15#1308698561 "Apparently, I was confused too. I had no idea back then that there were different types of circumcisions and "slack"!")  6 years 3 weeks ago by [iwantfullfrontal](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4492606-iwantfullfrontal.html "View iwantfullfrontal's Profile")

- [1](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153089-1-nodule-1-major-clump-after-pmma-round-3-with-dr-morales-photos-inside.html?start=0 "Page:1")
- [2](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153089-1-nodule-1-major-clump-after-pmma-round-3-with-dr-morales-photos-inside.html?start=15 "Page:2")

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 [Last Post](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153089-1-nodule-1-major-clump-after-pmma-round-3-with-dr-morales-photos-inside.html?start=15#1308698561 "Apparently, I was confused too. I had no idea back then that there were different types of circumcisions and "slack"!") by [iwantfullfrontal](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4492606-iwantfullfrontal.html "View iwantfullfrontal's Profile")  6 years 3 weeks ago

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###  [Share your short or long term issues with Ellanse here](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153179-share-your-short-or-long-term-issues-with-ellanse-here.html "I expect I am not alone, as someone who is on the fence about if I should or shouldn't do this, and if I should go with PMMA or Ellanse. It would be great to have a collection of anecdotal experiences...")

 Topic started 6 years 1 month ago, by [jacknimble](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760666-jacknimble.html "View jacknimble's Profile")

 [Last Post](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153179-share-your-short-or-long-term-issues-with-ellanse-here.html#1308698378 "I expect I am not alone, as someone who is on the fence about if I should or shouldn't do this, and if I should go with PMMA or Ellanse. It would be great to have a collection of anecdotal experiences...")  6 years 1 month ago by [jacknimble](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760666-jacknimble.html "View jacknimble's Profile")

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 [Last Post](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153179-share-your-short-or-long-term-issues-with-ellanse-here.html#1308698378 "I expect I am not alone, as someone who is on the fence about if I should or shouldn't do this, and if I should go with PMMA or Ellanse. It would be great to have a collection of anecdotal experiences...") by [jacknimble](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760666-jacknimble.html "View jacknimble's Profile")  6 years 1 month ago

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###  [Pmma with Dr. M (Photos Inside)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153167-pmma-with-dr-m-photos-inside.html "Just had my first session about a week ago. Been a long time lurker of the site. Everything healed well. Had 10cc 30% and 7cc 10%. The 30 percent for me was easier to massage it felt like.

Pre stats...")

 Topic started 6 years 1 month ago, by [Kayshack](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760307-kayshack.html "View Kayshack's Profile")

 [Last Post](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153167-pmma-with-dr-m-photos-inside.html#1308698374 "Congratulations, brother. Enjoy!")  6 years 1 month ago by [csf84](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2055546-csf84.html "View csf84's Profile")

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 [Last Post](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153167-pmma-with-dr-m-photos-inside.html#1308698374 "Congratulations, brother. Enjoy!") by [csf84](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2055546-csf84.html "View csf84's Profile")  6 years 1 month ago

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###  [Dont Ever Go To Stephen Guinta In Virgina!!! \* Aesthetic Plastic Surgery\*](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153155-dont-ever-go-to-stephen-guinta-in-virgina-aesthetic-plastic-surgery.html "Dr. Stephen Guinta that operates in VA is a scammer and a crook. First, at my consultation he made false promises about the length gains I would receive from a ligament release which really sold me on...")

 Topic started 6 years 1 month ago, by [Chop](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760684-chop.html "View Chop's Profile")

 [Last Post](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153155-dont-ever-go-to-stephen-guinta-in-virgina-aesthetic-plastic-surgery.html#1308698332 "I went to this same Dr for FFT about 12-14yrs ago, all dissolved as while back, and I recall his office being pretty seedy and didn't have the best experience there. He had promised me permanent...")  6 years 1 month ago by [csf84](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2055546-csf84.html "View csf84's Profile")

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 [Last Post](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153155-dont-ever-go-to-stephen-guinta-in-virgina-aesthetic-plastic-surgery.html#1308698332 "I went to this same Dr for FFT about 12-14yrs ago, all dissolved as while back, and I recall his office being pretty seedy and didn't have the best experience there. He had promised me permanent...") by [csf84](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2055546-csf84.html "View csf84's Profile")  6 years 1 month ago

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###  [Over 10yrs with pmma?](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153100-over-10yrs-with-pmma.html "Is their anyone here with over 10 yrs of pmma looking to pull the trigger")

 Topic started 6 years 2 months ago, by [Money1300](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4456497-money1300.html "View Money1300's Profile")

 [Last Post](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153100-over-10yrs-with-pmma.html#1308698295 "Reiterating SO's response, yes PMMA. If you were meaning to ask which BRAND, it was Metacril. If your wanting more info on brands, this has been discussed extensively on the 2.0 boards.")  6 years 1 month ago by [Todzilla](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2136887-todzilla.html "View Todzilla's Profile")

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 [Last Post](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153100-over-10yrs-with-pmma.html#1308698295 "Reiterating SO's response, yes PMMA. If you were meaning to ask which BRAND, it was Metacril. If your wanting more info on brands, this has been discussed extensively on the 2.0 boards.") by [Todzilla](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2136887-todzilla.html "View Todzilla's Profile")  6 years 1 month ago

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###  [Next and Final Step Amidst the Pandemic](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10153132-next-and-final-step-amidst-the-pandemic.html "Hi All, I've been following a few years and ended up going to Dr C back in 2016 and had a follow-up a year later. Very much pleased with shaft girth..

My couple of final issues are that I developed a...")

 Topic started 6 years 1 month ago, by [BrooklynDude76](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6760645-brooklyndude76.html "View BrooklynDude76's Profile")

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It can be a challenging area to fill. The skin is just so thin! It is the most common area I will use a needle rather than a cannula. But still try cannula first and use it if it goes easily....")  6 years 1 month ago by [Dr\_Oates](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4460953-dr-oates.html "View Dr_Oates's Profile")

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It can be a challenging area to fill. The skin is just so thin! It is the most common area I will use a needle rather than a cannula. But still try cannula first and use it if it goes easily....") by [Dr\_Oates](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4460953-dr-oates.html "View Dr_Oates's Profile")  6 years 1 month ago

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