TOPIC: AstroD's debriefing

CPW, when this current babe tells me I have a big Cock, and that it's impressive, and that she gets wet when she remembers the visual, hell yes, I want more too!

Heck, I almost cried the night she told me that. I had always wanted to hear those words!

Jewdub, thanks for the slap on the face (I mean that in a good way). So I ordered two Cock rings. A Tanrus wide, and a vibrating rabbit clit eater. That'll show her. Also ordered the X4 stretcher which I hope comes soon. I received the Kaplan pump, and I started pumping even though it was only a week after surgery. I'm doing it to see what happens and as a learning tool for you guys. Nah, I want a bigger Dick is all. It came with a Cock strap that has snaps, so I've been using that as well. It engorges my prick but pulls the skin at the Balls area. I'll get used to it. I like the idea of the snaps for easy off in case of emergency, but it's somewhat wide and encroaches on my length by about 1/2".

Also, since the 5mg Cialis seems to not be as powerful as I thought it would, I ordered some Viagras. But I still want to experiment with the 20mg Cialis and see if a morning breakfast of one of those will be good at night. I'd like to try out Levitra some day too.

Yeah, SO, I blocked PM's when I started getting pm's from 1 post members wanting to know stuff, so I advised them to post in threads to get that info.

Since I just got back from Vegas, I'll re-visit the pay site later. Condolences to Celine Dion.

Well, it's been 2 weeks and 4 days since Rd. 1 back in 1/14/16. I had 22cc of 30%. I'll post pics at the one month anniversary.

After the initial wow factor of swelling and product, my pecker has stabilized and looks ok now, but not the monster it temporarily was only a week and a half ago.

I would suggest to guys (like me) who want to show it off and have sex 5 days out, to refrain from it (although instructions say wait only 7 days). She'll get an eyeful at first, then perhaps yawn a week later lol (I'm not sure how they really think, it's a mystery.)

I still turtle. So in the mornings, my lower shaft is narrower than the upper shaft, which looks like a maraca. Every morning, I have to massage it very well and mold it back into shape, then put my ESL40 ADS stretcher on. I try to wear it to work as well.

I use the X4 extender when I get home, and I pump every other day. That seems to keep the young fellow engorged and plump and I hope that is how it will heal, not as a turtle dove. BTW, I also use 5mg Cialis daily to keep it somewhat chubby.

And SO, I was able to use the donation site as you said. One doesn't have to use the billing address or real password, so it's pretty anonymously safe. One can use their stepmom's email and credit card, and no one's the wiser, so if this place has helped anyone like uit did me, feel free to give what you can if it's in your . This place deserves it especially since we don't have to manage the site like SO does. Anyway, this is the last time I'll mention it.

Good luck to all and I'll drop by with an update soon.

BTW, my BPEL is at 6.5" now, but not sure if it's the pump, ESL40, pmma, manual PE, faulty meaduring, or wishful thinking.

@AstroD

Saw that, thanks so very much!

@AstroD:

Everyone's body responds differently from the surgery. For both my rounds I hit my final Girth at about 2 weeks. Both times my Girth was a full 0.5" bigger for the first week after surgery than what I ended up with. Both times Dr C hit the goal almost exactly.

Round 1 I went from 5.5" MSEG to 6.5" MSEG for the first week. Then it reduced down to 6.0" MSEG by 14 days out. And that's where I stayed. My wife and I kept talking about that first week tho.

Round 2 I did the exact same thing. I went from 6.0" MSEG to 7.0" MSEG for the first week and then it went down to 6.5" at 14 days out. And that's where I stand today (7 weeks out)... a little bigger than 6.5" MSEG.

That extra Girth for the first week after surgery is like what crack must be like. haha

Yup, I know what the pipe feels like and that's what I am so afraid of. Hell when I saw 7" in the tube it was like hitting the pipe for the 1st time again. The rush and all. That was a scary moment. I had to put the tube down and back away...........


I would love to give my wife a 6.5 mseg and she could easily handle that and more.

I am afraid of how it will make me feel so I am trying this the el-natural way.

God knows I have enough addiction issues and I don't want this to turn into one. I must tread very lightly and I am sure there are others in my shoes on this board.


I keep telling myself one round couldn't hurt. I could go from 5.8 to 6.25. What's the harm. To a recovering addict that is a slippery slope to be on....

LF35, but I think the addictive state is different in both scenarios. I've been there too. Getting PMMA does nothing to alter one's mental state and feeling of well being like a drug would. There are no receptors in the brain to compete with when PMMA is in your body (penis). So I would not and have not felt an addictive personality coming on with PE. The only thing I can say is that I wish it would have stayed like it was a few days out, and now I'm down from that wow size.
So I plan to do it again. I wouldn't label it an addiction but more like reaching a goal. I think that if my Dick were to go to 7" Girth, it would look ugly and not proportional, so I wouldn't continue.

Astro , while I agree there is no bio or chemical reaction in the brain directly from the PMMA injection,

I was not referring to the dopamine/chemical release for pleasure receptors from the brain at all.


I was eluding to the messed up thought process most recovering addicts have. Kinda what I call my

stinkin thinking. If a little is good then more must be a whole alot better type of thinking. Most people with

addictive personalities can take anything and have it become an addiction/obsession, even good things

can be done to excess and become addictive.


It's not the actual PMMA or size increase that is addictive, even though that could easily be addictive

alone on its own for some people, the use and subsiquent thought process behind that can become

addictive.


Seriously how many people here have a porn/masturbation addiction, and if they could they would nail

every willing lady they came across

here is a real and possible scenario,

. Now take that guy that has a sex addiction that is curbed by his own stinking thinking or his

thought process of I have a small penis so he is satisfied by his porn/fantasy life and self pleasure.


So said guy gets huge gains from pe/PMMA and starts living out his sex addiction hitting everything in

sight, trolling bars, clubs and craigs list. Slaying every hole he can. One addiction successfully replaced

by another. Eventually the size is boring again and needs to feed the addiction by more gains, the thought

process could be, wow i get laid alot now and I never got laid before PMMA, SO bigger must be better ok

better get another round. The addiction cycle begins anew.....

very very possible.

I had a similar situation with my Kaplan pump. I had to put it away at first and get a real good grip on the

why am I doing this in my own head. What is driving me to gain size? Is this going to lead into unhealthy

behaviors?

I had a small penis self image. I thought I had a small penis. You guys here made me see the reality of it.

I am lucky I have a good support group and lots of 12 step program to fall back on. Lots of guys here

dont have that and can easily get sucked in to a worse addiction that what they currently struggle with.




Not to hijack your thread. Im very excited for you that so far all looks well and you are happy for your gains

@LS35: You make some excellent points.

[1] 5.8" MSEG is definitely not small! It's thick!

[2] Porn is addicting. I've never spent a lot time watching it but I've enjoyed it. I consciously stopped watching porn after my second round. That was mid Dec. It wasn't until mid January that I didn't have that 'pang' to go watch something.

[3] I haven't nor do I have any plans to try out my new attributes with the ladies. But I can certainly understand the pull. And the slippery slope as you mentioned...

I agree, you have a good argument there and very eloquently stated. I can see exactly what you describe, because as I was reading it, I was also thinking about that is how I am feeling now.

That wow factor in her eyes...I want more of that. At least this type of addiction for me personally, won't me like the substances I have abused before, where I used to worry if I would succumb to respiratory depression unknowingly in my sleep.

My problem now is mental. It seems that I am having issues with my erections currently. I mean, I've stated that I have ED from after my lig surgery, but at least I could cum by masturbating. Now it seems rather difficult to even get off and it takes a long while, and only by myself. I don't when I'm with this girl I'm with at the moment, and she's a beauty!

I'm gonna have to work on this. Stats in a week!

Seriously try no porn and no masturbation at all for 3 weeks and see what happens, no sex either. Do a reboot, giving everything a break. That works wonders for me when I get in the porn masturbation cycle. Do not jelq either. Just let it rest.

check out www.yourbrainonporn.com


it explains the psyiology of the porn, pleasure receptor and dopamine releases. In a nutshell the whole biology regarding pleasure receptors and visual/ physical stimulation.

Hey man hows your Dick looking now that stuff is settling? You had a very nice appearance from the pics a few days post op. I know a lot of people see imperfections once swelling subsides. Can you put up a couple new photos?

Well, I'd like to say that my Cock looks like this all the time. This was taken 5 days ago.
But it doesn't. This is how it looks after I take it out and stretch it and massage it back to shape, since I still turtle quite a bit.






This is how it really is in the mornings, after work, anytime I'm not pulling on it or stretching it...it looks like a small handball.
This was taken this morning.



It doesn't look normal at all until I manipulate it. I think if there was more product at the base area, and I was able to constantly keep it stretched until the new PMMA takes, it would stay longer in the Flaccid state. Not sure if I should do a 2nd round...it may look too weird. Even if I were to stretch it out quickly in front of a girl, I would still have to squish it back to shape to avoid looking like a maraca.

Any suggestions? I like how it looks when I shape it, but it never stays that way. Erections are awesome, though, when I can get one.

, "you're big", and "you have a big Cock",

Amazing, right?

Your Flaccid looks like mine, unless I stretch it out (same like you said). It probably won't stop Turtling if you add more PMMA. If you're happy with it, I would stop and not get caught up in what it looked like swollen. You may never get that size, and also the swollen Dick is so even because of the fluid in there... but the real PMMA Dick of that size is going to start showing unevenness because as you keep layering on the PMMA it just sorta becomes inevitable...unless you're really really lucky.

Looking good Astro, happy for ya.

So that means that if a chick sleeps over, and she wakes me up with a blow job, she'll see it in it's true form, all short, turtled, and squishy like that.

When it's in that un-stretched state, it looks like there's been something done to it, but I hope it's just my imagination since I know what's been done. Do cocks look like this normally? I don't think so.

So now I'm really going to try to traction extend it and am going to replace my x4 with a Penimaster. I like the suction bulb better than the silicone noose.

Also, pumping can only help, and wear my ADS during the day.

I read somewhere that someone used his Penimaster at night while sleeping. Against common advise, I may just do that too if I go for a second round to see if I can fill in the base area to match the upper shaft close to the glans. It just looks too weird to me. I wish there was some way to avoid the severe Turtling that my penis goes through. The retraction is pretty severe.

I'm still glad I did this though. It sure looks better than before after I re-form the prick!