--- title: "The start of my journey pre pmma, lakingsfan35 - PhalloBoards - Phalloboards" description: "Ok, I figure it's now or never. My wife is in inpatient treatment for her eating disorder (bulimia ) she went in last Tuesday.... - Page 2" url: "https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/patient-support-group-progress-reports/7765026-the-start-of-my-journey-pre-pmma-lakingsfan35.html?start=15" date: "2026-08-06T16:56:29+00:00" language: "en-GB" --- PhalloBoards - An Online Community to Discuss Penile Girth Enhancement General Forum Doctors Forum Username Password Remember me - [ Forgot your password? ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/reset.html?Itemid=101) - [ Forgot your username? ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/remind.html?Itemid=101) - [ Create an account ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) # TOPIC: The start of my journey pre pmma, lakingsfan35 ## Re: The start of my journey pre pmma, lakingsfan35 10 years 8 months ago [\#1289793894](#1289793894) - **[lakingsfan35](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4241983-lakingsfan35.html "View lakingsfan35's Profile")** - [![lakingsfan35's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4241983-lakingsfan35.html "View lakingsfan35's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4241983-lakingsfan35.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 239 - Thanks: 1 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4241983) Ok so I am not pumping daily but 3 times a week. I pump for 10 minutes, massage then 10 more minutes at 3to 4 hg. I have not noticed any gains out of the tube except a better hang flacid. If this is all i will get ill take it. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZ2VuZXJhbC1mb3J1bS9wYXRpZW50LXN1cHBvcnQtZ3JvdXAtcHJvZ3Jlc3MtcmVwb3J0cy83NzY1MDI2LXRoZS1zdGFydC1vZi1teS1qb3VybmV5LXByZS1wbW1hLWxha2luZ3NmYW4zNS5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MTU=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: The start of my journey pre pmma, lakingsfan35 10 years 8 months ago [\#1289794190](#1289794190) - **[indiano123](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4089166-indiano123.html "View indiano123's Profile")** - [![indiano123's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4089166-indiano123.html "View indiano123's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4089166-indiano123.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 1049 - Thanks: 2 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4089166) Do you pump immediately after your session with Dr c? Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZ2VuZXJhbC1mb3J1bS9wYXRpZW50LXN1cHBvcnQtZ3JvdXAtcHJvZ3Jlc3MtcmVwb3J0cy83NzY1MDI2LXRoZS1zdGFydC1vZi1teS1qb3VybmV5LXByZS1wbW1hLWxha2luZ3NmYW4zNS5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MTU=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: The start of my journey pre pmma, lakingsfan35 10 years 8 months ago [\#1289794329](#1289794329) - **[Nnew211](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4094408-nnew211.html "View Nnew211's Profile")** - [![Nnew211's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4094408-nnew211.html "View Nnew211's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4094408-nnew211.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 58 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4094408) Dude you definetly have a havy weapon down there.. 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Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZ2VuZXJhbC1mb3J1bS9wYXRpZW50LXN1cHBvcnQtZ3JvdXAtcHJvZ3Jlc3MtcmVwb3J0cy83NzY1MDI2LXRoZS1zdGFydC1vZi1teS1qb3VybmV5LXByZS1wbW1hLWxha2luZ3NmYW4zNS5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MTU=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: The start of my journey pre pmma, lakingsfan35 10 years 8 months ago [\#1289797544](#1289797544) - **[lakingsfan35](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4241983-lakingsfan35.html "View lakingsfan35's Profile")** - [![lakingsfan35's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4241983-lakingsfan35.html "View lakingsfan35's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4241983-lakingsfan35.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 239 - Thanks: 1 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4241983) > Nnew211 wrote: Dude you definetly have a havy weapon down there.. Thanks but my dysmorphia says otherwise to me. That's a 4.25 Inch flacid hang with a 6.25 BPEL. I used to hang flacid around 3.75. I'll take it if it stays that way. I know from a statistical point of view I'm supposedly on the "larger than average" but not yet big, side of the scale. Sadly there are many here much larger than I and sadly there are some much smaller than I. Some days I feel happy about my size and some days I'm depressed about the size of things. I guess it depends on the turtle effect of that particular day.. 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Thanks but my dysmorphia says otherwise to me. That's a 4.25 Inch flacid hang with a 6.25 BPEL. I used to hang flacid around 3.75. I'll take it if it stays that way. I know from a statistical point of view I'm supposedly on the "larger than average" but not yet big, side of the scale. Sadly there are many here much larger than I and sadly there are some much smaller than I. Some days I feel happy about my size and some days I'm depressed about the size of things. I guess it depends on the turtle effect of that particular day.. 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Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZ2VuZXJhbC1mb3J1bS9wYXRpZW50LXN1cHBvcnQtZ3JvdXAtcHJvZ3Jlc3MtcmVwb3J0cy83NzY1MDI2LXRoZS1zdGFydC1vZi1teS1qb3VybmV5LXByZS1wbW1hLWxha2luZ3NmYW4zNS5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MTU=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: The start of my journey pre pmma, lakingsfan35 10 years 8 months ago [\#1289827731](#1289827731) - **[lakingsfan35](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4241983-lakingsfan35.html "View lakingsfan35's Profile")** - [![lakingsfan35's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4241983-lakingsfan35.html "View lakingsfan35's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4241983-lakingsfan35.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 239 - Thanks: 1 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4241983) Where do we find the percentile that everyone refers to? Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZ2VuZXJhbC1mb3J1bS9wYXRpZW50LXN1cHBvcnQtZ3JvdXAtcHJvZ3Jlc3MtcmVwb3J0cy83NzY1MDI2LXRoZS1zdGFydC1vZi1teS1qb3VybmV5LXByZS1wbW1hLWxha2luZ3NmYW4zNS5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MTU=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: The start of my journey pre pmma, lakingsfan35 10 years 8 months ago [\#1289863273](#1289863273) - **[lakingsfan35](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4241983-lakingsfan35.html "View lakingsfan35's Profile")** - [![lakingsfan35's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4241983-lakingsfan35.html "View lakingsfan35's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4241983-lakingsfan35.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 239 - Thanks: 1 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4241983) Ok so I was pumping this morning and I decided to measure in the tube. Then I measured the outside of the tube and was astonished. Now keep in mind I am new to pumping but is this size obtainable? And will it stay? I am packing a 2" tube already and over 7.25 in the tube in. All at 5hg with an occasional pump to 7 then slowly going back to 5. I know some of you pump. New1inch, SO, Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZ2VuZXJhbC1mb3J1bS9wYXRpZW50LXN1cHBvcnQtZ3JvdXAtcHJvZ3Jlc3MtcmVwb3J0cy83NzY1MDI2LXRoZS1zdGFydC1vZi1teS1qb3VybmV5LXByZS1wbW1hLWxha2luZ3NmYW4zNS5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MTU=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: The start of my journey pre pmma, lakingsfan35 10 years 8 months ago [\#1289863569](#1289863569) - **[indiano123](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4089166-indiano123.html "View indiano123's Profile")** - [![indiano123's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4089166-indiano123.html "View indiano123's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4089166-indiano123.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 1049 - Thanks: 2 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4089166) It's just temporary. You will be harder and a little thicker, I've heard that the more you use your pump that eventually it makes your Dick bigger. 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Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZ2VuZXJhbC1mb3J1bS9wYXRpZW50LXN1cHBvcnQtZ3JvdXAtcHJvZ3Jlc3MtcmVwb3J0cy83NzY1MDI2LXRoZS1zdGFydC1vZi1teS1qb3VybmV5LXByZS1wbW1hLWxha2luZ3NmYW4zNS5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MTU=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: The start of my journey pre pmma, lakingsfan35 10 years 8 months ago [\#1289954863](#1289954863) - **[nohidingstyle](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2989668-nohidingstyle.html "View nohidingstyle's Profile")** - [![nohidingstyle's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2989668-nohidingstyle.html "View nohidingstyle's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2989668-nohidingstyle.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 328 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=2989668) it's a combination of two factors that allows for much greater measured length when pumping. i used to pump a lot. on a normal light pump i'm 19-21 cm depending on EQ and the pump etc etc. but i've gone up to 22 and on one occasion during my obsession was astounded to almost hit 23. that said, i don't have a 9" long penis. so what's going on here? i think one can gain up to a full Inch in length from pumping alone. that is from the temporary pressure based stress on the penis itself, also combined with the tube digging deeply into your body, and can create an illusion of significant gains. the reality is if you pull the tube off you lose almost all of that immediately. pumping made me thicker sorta but it effected my EQ. it's lots of fun but i don't think it's much of a long term thing for gains. like, a little bit to keep the fascia etc flexible is great but it's not the main thing for gains imho. more like a stretch, and don't stretch too much? that's my experience anyway. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZ2VuZXJhbC1mb3J1bS9wYXRpZW50LXN1cHBvcnQtZ3JvdXAtcHJvZ3Jlc3MtcmVwb3J0cy83NzY1MDI2LXRoZS1zdGFydC1vZi1teS1qb3VybmV5LXByZS1wbW1hLWxha2luZ3NmYW4zNS5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MTU=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: The start of my journey pre pmma, lakingsfan35 10 years 8 months ago [\#1289958778](#1289958778) - **[lakingsfan35](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4241983-lakingsfan35.html "View lakingsfan35's Profile")** - [![lakingsfan35's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4241983-lakingsfan35.html "View lakingsfan35's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4241983-lakingsfan35.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 239 - Thanks: 1 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4241983) I figured it was partially the ultimate BPEL measurement due to the tube being pressed so firmly into the pubic bone. My question is this, with a stretching regularly is the pumped BPEL possible to achieve? I mean obviously the tendons get there somehow under vacuum. Id kill for a 7.25 Inch boner one day Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZ2VuZXJhbC1mb3J1bS9wYXRpZW50LXN1cHBvcnQtZ3JvdXAtcHJvZ3Jlc3MtcmVwb3J0cy83NzY1MDI2LXRoZS1zdGFydC1vZi1teS1qb3VybmV5LXByZS1wbW1hLWxha2luZ3NmYW4zNS5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MTU=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: The start of my journey pre pmma, lakingsfan35 10 years 8 months ago [\#1290064173](#1290064173) - **[lakingsfan35](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4241983-lakingsfan35.html "View lakingsfan35's Profile")** - [![lakingsfan35's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4241983-lakingsfan35.html "View lakingsfan35's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4241983-lakingsfan35.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 239 - Thanks: 1 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4241983) Ok so its been 6 weeks. No measurable difference in eg. Bummer on that. There is a big difference in fl hang and my eg is super good, i cut down masturbation in hopes of gaining eq I'm happy about that. There is about 1/8 Inch BPEL gain closer to 3/16", I am sure the pump has nothing to do with that and the esl40 has everything to do with that. Super stoked about this and hope to see more as i wear the ads 5 days a week and pump less. Is this a better way to go? I was using the esl every other day and pumping inbetween? 2 sets of pumping 10 min at 4 to 5 hg with a 10 min rest in between. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance fot your input.... 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