--- title: "Thewingman's battle against retraction - PhalloBoards - Phalloboards" description: "Hey guys, So, I've been saying for awhile now that I would make a thread about my adventures and progress but never sat down to... - Page 2" url: "https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/patient-support-group-progress-reports/6500142-thewingmans-battle-against-retraction.html?start=15" date: "2026-08-06T18:37:16+00:00" language: "en-GB" --- PhalloBoards - An Online Community to Discuss Penile Girth Enhancement General Forum Doctors Forum Username Password Remember me - [ Forgot your password? ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/reset.html?Itemid=101) - [ Forgot your username? ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/remind.html?Itemid=101) - [ Create an account ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) # TOPIC: Thewingman's battle against retraction ## Re: Thewingman's battle against retraction 12 years 10 months ago [\#1279684083](#1279684083) - **[briceb](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1725992-briceb.html "View briceb's Profile")** - [![briceb's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar1725992.jpg?1571843684)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1725992-briceb.html "View briceb's Profile") - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1725992-briceb.html) - Moderator - ![Moderator](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rankmod.gif) - Posts: 1484 - Thanks: 17 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1725992) Dude, that looks great! Very nice job. It looks completely natural. Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL3BhdGllbnQtc3VwcG9ydC1ncm91cC1wcm9ncmVzcy1yZXBvcnRzLzY1MDAxNDItdGhld2luZ21hbnMtYmF0dGxlLWFnYWluc3QtcmV0cmFjdGlvbi5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MTU=) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Thewingman's battle against retraction 12 years 10 months ago [\#1279687176](#1279687176) - **[Thewingman](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2113427-thewingman.html "View Thewingman's Profile")** - [![Thewingman's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2113427-thewingman.html "View Thewingman's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2113427-thewingman.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 71 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=2113427) Thanks man. I am super happy, but it is honestly too big right now. It also makes me look so much shorter. I'll update as things progress Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL3BhdGllbnQtc3VwcG9ydC1ncm91cC1wcm9ncmVzcy1yZXBvcnRzLzY1MDAxNDItdGhld2luZ21hbnMtYmF0dGxlLWFnYWluc3QtcmV0cmFjdGlvbi5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MTU=) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Thewingman's battle against retraction 12 years 10 months ago [\#1279687841](#1279687841) - **[New1inch](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1727852-new1inch.html "View New1inch's Profile")** - [![New1inch's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar1727852.jpeg?1619732583)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1727852-new1inch.html "View New1inch's Profile") - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1727852-new1inch.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 1016 - Thanks: 37 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1727852) hows the retraction going? Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL3BhdGllbnQtc3VwcG9ydC1ncm91cC1wcm9ncmVzcy1yZXBvcnRzLzY1MDAxNDItdGhld2luZ21hbnMtYmF0dGxlLWFnYWluc3QtcmV0cmFjdGlvbi5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MTU=) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Thewingman's battle against retraction 12 years 10 months ago [\#1279696187](#1279696187) - **[Thewingman](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2113427-thewingman.html "View Thewingman's Profile")** - [![Thewingman's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2113427-thewingman.html "View Thewingman's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2113427-thewingman.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 71 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=2113427) U the retraction has been good for the last 2 days. Before, I believe the retraction caused the PMMA to migrate away from the circ scar area. Hopefully this round will have corrected that. Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL3BhdGllbnQtc3VwcG9ydC1ncm91cC1wcm9ncmVzcy1yZXBvcnRzLzY1MDAxNDItdGhld2luZ21hbnMtYmF0dGxlLWFnYWluc3QtcmV0cmFjdGlvbi5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MTU=) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Thewingman's battle against retraction 12 years 10 months ago [\#1279696268](#1279696268) - **[Thewingman](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2113427-thewingman.html "View Thewingman's Profile")** - [![Thewingman's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2113427-thewingman.html "View Thewingman's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2113427-thewingman.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 71 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=2113427) On another note, I asked the doc about doing all 30% and he preferred not to do it that way. He was aware of my concerns, and I told him he's the expert, so whatever he thinks is best, I'm ready for. He ended up doing 16 cc of 30% and only 1 cc of 10% at the very top. I've very happy overall, it if this stays this big, I'll never get a blow job again! 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Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL3BhdGllbnQtc3VwcG9ydC1ncm91cC1wcm9ncmVzcy1yZXBvcnRzLzY1MDAxNDItdGhld2luZ21hbnMtYmF0dGxlLWFnYWluc3QtcmV0cmFjdGlvbi5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MTU=) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Thewingman's battle against retraction 12 years 10 months ago [\#1279719749](#1279719749) - **[Thewingman](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2113427-thewingman.html "View Thewingman's Profile")** - [![Thewingman's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2113427-thewingman.html "View Thewingman's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2113427-thewingman.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 71 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=2113427) Day 4 Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL3BhdGllbnQtc3VwcG9ydC1ncm91cC1wcm9ncmVzcy1yZXBvcnRzLzY1MDAxNDItdGhld2luZ21hbnMtYmF0dGxlLWFnYWluc3QtcmV0cmFjdGlvbi5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MTU=) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Thewingman's battle against retraction 12 years 9 months ago [\#1280167757](#1280167757) - **[strangerdanger](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2225250-strangerdanger.html "View strangerdanger's Profile")** - [![strangerdanger's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2225250-strangerdanger.html "View strangerdanger's Profile") - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2225250-strangerdanger.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 19 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=2225250) Wingman if I may ask, do you attribute the gains stated in Flaccid length more from the PMMA preventing retraction or is it the extra weight/bulk do you think? A full Inch after the second touch up round!? Seems like a pretty awesome benefit to go along with the Girth gains! And now that it has been a while have you noticed any negative/positive changes in Erect length? I'm right at average all around so I can't stand to sacrifice one for the sake of gaining another! lol Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL3BhdGllbnQtc3VwcG9ydC1ncm91cC1wcm9ncmVzcy1yZXBvcnRzLzY1MDAxNDItdGhld2luZ21hbnMtYmF0dGxlLWFnYWluc3QtcmV0cmFjdGlvbi5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MTU=) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Thewingman's battle against retraction 12 years 9 months ago [\#1280168286](#1280168286) - **[Thewingman](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2113427-thewingman.html "View Thewingman's Profile")** - [![Thewingman's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2113427-thewingman.html "View Thewingman's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2113427-thewingman.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 71 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=2113427) Actually, since the swelling is all gone, it's become a little shorter. I actually still turtle a lot and need more filling in my circ scar area. I believe that will help with the retraction. Overall, the PMMA has added a lot of weight to it but it also has kept it from retracting as much as it did. I used to have a very mobile penis. Even sitting in the shower, it would always be contracting and relaxing for no reason. It does that far less now. I actually have quite a nice bulge outline in my pants now. It's awesome. Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL3BhdGllbnQtc3VwcG9ydC1ncm91cC1wcm9ncmVzcy1yZXBvcnRzLzY1MDAxNDItdGhld2luZ21hbnMtYmF0dGxlLWFnYWluc3QtcmV0cmFjdGlvbi5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MTU=) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Thewingman's battle against retraction 12 years 9 months ago [\#1280168305](#1280168305) - **[Thewingman](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2113427-thewingman.html "View Thewingman's Profile")** - [![Thewingman's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2113427-thewingman.html "View Thewingman's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2113427-thewingman.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 71 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=2113427) Also, I know some people had wondered about pumping after having PMMA. Over the last week I've been using the bathmate in the mornings for about 10 min or so. I really personally like the pressure so I just do it for a short time. I've noticed that it fills in all of the imperfections, and actually keeps me from retracting at all for the first half of the day. Anyway, I thought I'd add that! 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I also turtle all the time for seemingly no reason. I seem to spend little time not Turtling in fact. The rest of the time for whatever reason..cold, stress, who knows.. It really seems like PMMA has several benefits indeed. If I knew that having a lig cut would vastly speed Hanging gains I would get that done, then PMMA depending on gains vs time. Thus far I've not noticed and progress without any operation. Have you considered any sort of lig cut? I suppose your starting length was fine to begin with so we differ on that front. Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL3BhdGllbnQtc3VwcG9ydC1ncm91cC1wcm9ncmVzcy1yZXBvcnRzLzY1MDAxNDItdGhld2luZ21hbnMtYmF0dGxlLWFnYWluc3QtcmV0cmFjdGlvbi5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MTU=) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Thewingman's battle against retraction 12 years 9 months ago [\#1280183441](#1280183441) - **[Thewingman](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2113427-thewingman.html "View Thewingman's Profile")** - [![Thewingman's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2113427-thewingman.html "View Thewingman's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2113427-thewingman.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 71 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=2113427) I've thought about a lig cut but I don't want any of the scarring. Plus it's a lot of money for no guarantees on any gains. If it was a sure think and it could be done through a little hole that wouldn't scar, I'd do it. I really want another Inch in length and have been considering the priapus shot n the next year. Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL3BhdGllbnQtc3VwcG9ydC1ncm91cC1wcm9ncmVzcy1yZXBvcnRzLzY1MDAxNDItdGhld2luZ21hbnMtYmF0dGxlLWFnYWluc3QtcmV0cmFjdGlvbi5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MTU=) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Thewingman's battle against retraction 12 years 9 months ago [\#1280186632](#1280186632) - **[strangerdanger](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2225250-strangerdanger.html "View strangerdanger's Profile")** - [![strangerdanger's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2225250-strangerdanger.html "View strangerdanger's Profile") - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2225250-strangerdanger.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 19 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=2225250) I haven't heard of that shot..sounds interesting I'll have to look into it. I also think I read that the guy Dr. C partners with in Tijuana for length procedures does a cut that goes through the scrotum reducing most of the visible scarring. The results seemed pretty good too. It was someone on this board, I'll have to see if can find the thread again. I'm like you though..Would like to hear more testimonials about enhancing hanging gains, and don't want crazy incisions above my member. lol EDIT: Here is the thread for the lig cut plus pmma. I tried to inquire about it a while back but looks like he hasn't been on for a while. There's quite a bit of discussion there though. There are also a couple other guys with lig cuts in that thread I'd like to get in on the discussion. [ phalloboards.websitetoolbox.com/post/big...re-5412819?&trail=15](http://phalloboards.websitetoolbox.com/post/bigwheels3535-pmma-and-lengthening-combo-procedure-5412819?&trail=15) Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL3BhdGllbnQtc3VwcG9ydC1ncm91cC1wcm9ncmVzcy1yZXBvcnRzLzY1MDAxNDItdGhld2luZ21hbnMtYmF0dGxlLWFnYWluc3QtcmV0cmFjdGlvbi5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MTU=) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Thewingman's battle against retraction 12 years 9 months ago [\#1280186806](#1280186806) - **[dcpimpin12](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1982119-dcpimpin12.html "View dcpimpin12's Profile")** - [![dcpimpin12's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1982119-dcpimpin12.html "View dcpimpin12's Profile") - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1982119-dcpimpin12.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 316 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1982119) yes i had that procedure through the scrotum last tuesday. right now is too early to tell if im sattisfied or not... but after this weather i gain or not im planning to have the tunical lengthening surgery. hopefully that helps me gain anther Inch. Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL3BhdGllbnQtc3VwcG9ydC1ncm91cC1wcm9ncmVzcy1yZXBvcnRzLzY1MDAxNDItdGhld2luZ21hbnMtYmF0dGxlLWFnYWluc3QtcmV0cmFjdGlvbi5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MTU=) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Thewingman's battle against retraction 12 years 9 months ago [\#1280186866](#1280186866) - **[hoddle10](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1704891-hoddle10.html "View hoddle10's Profile")** - [![hoddle10's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1704891-hoddle10.html "View hoddle10's Profile") - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1704891-hoddle10.html) - Moderator - ![Moderator](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rankmod.gif) - Posts: 3120 - Thanks: 50 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1704891) > dcpimpin12 wrote: yes i had that procedure through the scrotum last tuesday. right now is too early to tell if im sattisfied or not... but after this weather i gain or not im planning to have the tunical lengthening surgery. hopefully that helps me gain anther Inch. 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