--- title: "Out with the implant - PhalloBoards - Phalloboards" description: "Thank you for all the info and support. I'm will be having elist remove the implant. Then after everything heals and stretches back out. Will be looking into..." url: "https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/patient-support-group-progress-reports/5747395-out-with-the-implant.html" date: "2026-08-06T14:46:26+00:00" language: "en-GB" --- PhalloBoards - An Online Community to Discuss Penile Girth Enhancement General Forum Doctors Forum Username Password Remember me - [ Forgot your password? ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/reset.html?Itemid=101) - [ Forgot your username? ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/remind.html?Itemid=101) - [ Create an account ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) # TOPIC: Out with the implant ## Out with the implant 14 years 4 months ago [\#1272618772](#1272618772) - **[Greenplanet55](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1828949-greenplanet55.html "View Greenplanet55's Profile")** - [![Greenplanet55's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1828949-greenplanet55.html "View Greenplanet55's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1828949-greenplanet55.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 12 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1828949) Thank you for all the info and support. I'm will be having elist remove the implant. Then after everything heals and stretches back out. Will be looking into PMMA. For now I want to research everything there is to know about healing from implant Removal and PMMA. So please any tips, info on both healing from having Elist implant removed and also the PMMA procedure with Dr. Casavantes. Thanks so much! G. 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In the past, all reports indicated that there was a lot of scar tissue left that caused retraction and curvature. There is also a gap that is left near the base of the penis where the end of implant sat and this area must be surgically corrected by utmost care that is not known to be done by the dr. I know it is cheaper to have his office do it, but you may end up having another surgery done to correct it by another surgeon. I am only giving you a heads up, your experience will vary. I think some one on this board had a Dr in TJ, Mexico remove scar tissue due to silicone implant Removal and he reported it as being a success.. I also know how hard it is to make the decision to remove it, so the best of luck to you. 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You have probably been dwelling on it continuously for quite some time. Good luck with the Removal. I hope whoever does it does a great job. Nomad1 Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZ2VuZXJhbC1mb3J1bS9wYXRpZW50LXN1cHBvcnQtZ3JvdXAtcHJvZ3Jlc3MtcmVwb3J0cy81NzQ3Mzk1LW91dC13aXRoLXRoZS1pbXBsYW50Lmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MQ==) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Out with the implant 14 years 4 months ago [\#1272676549](#1272676549) - **[JazzyJ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1840735-jazzyj.html "View JazzyJ's Profile")** - [![JazzyJ's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1840735-jazzyj.html "View JazzyJ's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1840735-jazzyj.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 241 - Thanks: 25 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1840735) Good luck Green.........dont let Dr Elist remove it, hes a clown. If hes in a hurry, he will remove it right in his office & use his secretary to help him with the procedure. This doctor is like a mad scientist. Make sure you get a good doctor to remove it & take out the scar tissue......... 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In the past, all reports indicated that there was a lot of scar tissue left that caused retraction and curvature. There is also a gap that is left near the base of the penis where the end of implant sat and this area must be surgically corrected by utmost care that is not known to be done by the dr. I know it is cheaper to have his office do it, but you may end up having another surgery done to correct it by another surgeon. I am only giving you a heads up, your experience will vary. > > I think some one on this board had a Dr in TJ, Mexico remove scar tissue due to silicone implant Removal and he reported it as being a success.. > > I also know how hard it is to make the decision to remove it, so the best of luck to you. Mustang, the gap at the base of the penis, how exactly is this corrected? Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZ2VuZXJhbC1mb3J1bS9wYXRpZW50LXN1cHBvcnQtZ3JvdXAtcHJvZ3Jlc3MtcmVwb3J0cy81NzQ3Mzk1LW91dC13aXRoLXRoZS1pbXBsYW50Lmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MQ==) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Out with the implant 14 years 4 months ago [\#1272677238](#1272677238) - **[Mustang2020](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1715850-mustang2020.html "View Mustang2020's Profile")** - [![Mustang2020's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1715850-mustang2020.html "View Mustang2020's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1715850-mustang2020.html) - Moderator - ![Moderator](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rankmod.gif) - Posts: 1795 - Thanks: 18 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1715850) The area has to be sewed carefully or more scar tissue and a gap may develop. It happened to me. I have a void on one side and it is pulling the shaft to the same side causing curvature. I am not exactly sure of what is happening in that area, but I know something is not correct due to the dr's carelessness, lack of professionalism and low medical ethics when he removed my implant. 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It happened to me. I have a void on one side and it is pulling the shaft to the same side causing curvature. I am not exactly sure of what is happening in that area, but I know something is not correct due to the dr's carelessness, lack of professionalism and low medical ethics when he removed my implant. Elist treats his practice for penile enlargement as a curbside drive up business where you order, come & insert the implant & you're on the way w/o much support afterwards & here you are sitting here wondering what this huge implant inside of your penis is gonna be like a month or year from when getting it. Its like a horror film........starring all of us patients. I think we should make a movie about him & us patients. 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Lost about an Inch. There is no curvature. When I have some time I will report on my entire experience'which is pretty bad'I simply would not let elist touch me again. Please do my friend, we are here for you................. 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The Removal was good, also had scar tissue removed, now just waiting for everything to heal and start stretching and pumping. I feel much better now without the hard implant underneath.Who's gotten their length back and even more length after implant Removal? Please comment. G. 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I hope you heal well. Not sure who removed it, but if the scar tissue was addressed properly then you should have better luck in the healing. Stretching will get some if not all of your length back. Most people had some loss, after Removal, in Erect length including myself. I think the only man that I know who had an increase in length due to 100% stretch commitment is Messegeman. Pumping worked for me too. If you see any signs of Peyronie's or curvature, contact your doctor asap. Good luck and keep us posted if you so wish. 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Totally swollen right now, the penis is retracted from the trauma. Been pulling on it to see if it has major retraction, but seems to be okay, I just need to stretch out after I heal. All the scar tissues were removed from the pubic area, so that should free up length. What was your routine to stretch it back out? and how long did it take? I respond really well to pumping, so I'm excited about starting that routine once I heal completely. What were your measurements right after Removal and what's are your measurements now? I know you did PMMA, but I'm more curious about your length measurements. Thanks, G. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZ2VuZXJhbC1mb3J1bS9wYXRpZW50LXN1cHBvcnQtZ3JvdXAtcHJvZ3Jlc3MtcmVwb3J0cy81NzQ3Mzk1LW91dC13aXRoLXRoZS1pbXBsYW50Lmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MQ==) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. 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