TOPIC: Does A Bigger Dick Change Things?

Skeptical One wrote: Emasculation by media, culture, and/or society is a perspective, an opinion. Whether it is happening or not is hard to say, but there is nothing wrong with discussing/debating the matter.

EQ, you decry the notion bigger-is-better yet sought out penis enlargement. Instead, you should have gotten over it and grown a pair.

Are you implying that there is something wrong in disagreeing , discussing and debating a perspective that I find belittling to men?

As far as growing a pair. I have a pair, I did something about it. Just like I work out 6 days a week. I'm not whining about women or afraid that someone has a bigger Dick than I have, please!

I don't have a problem with the "Sarah Jessica Parkers" of this world discussing intimacy and penis size if it wasn't so taboo for me to equally discuss cavernous vaginas over the same dinner.

I was, but I've been convinced that Hanging for length without surgery is the way to go.

Skeptical One wrote: No one is really whining here. It's a discussion. You chimed in, in a condescending fashion making it appear as if every comment before yours was inferior and incorrect. This in effect, is like suggesting the problem is a disagreement with your opinion.

I responded to an assertion that men are emasculated. I find that assertion condescending.

Skeptical One wrote: Ironically, you continue to contest any insinuation that size has benefits, yet sought out penis enlargement.

I don't find it ironic at all. Surprising, maybe. At the end of the day I will do what I thinks make me better. As a scientist there is theory and there is practical testing. I have now done the practical testing.

Skeptical One wrote: All I'm asking you to do is re-read your posts. Surely you can see that you've discredited some of our posters by having said "grow a pair." You seem smart, so think about it.

My intent is not to discredit posters but to disagree with a point of view that I think is belittling to men.

If there is an issue with me suggesting that men should get over if their SO had a larger penis before them and "grow a pair" why did you say "grow a pair" to me?

What I find interesting is that I have never suggested to another member that he not enlarge his penis!

why couldn't we all men been born with the same size penis that way females wouldnt worry about penis sizes no more but about how we do it?

A solid post Supa. I hate Sex in the City for the way it demeans men. I honestly believe (and have talked with my fiance about this who agrees) that America has turned into a culture where men are relocated to second class citizens unless they are abnormally blessed in the penis department, and even then are most often treated as giant oafs with no intellectual prowess. Imagine if we as men, on a regular basis, both in private conversation and through mass media, routinely ridiculed women with large vaginas as absolutely worthless human beings, completely unwomanly and people to be cast aside and shunned. Imagine affording a nearly godlike status to those rare women who could barely fit an average penis inside them, placing them on high above all others, singing songs of praise to them and dedicating countless hours of television and other media to the fact that any woman who can accomodate more than 3 inches of Dick is just not worth our time.

Frankly, it would be well deserved, although I as a compassionate human being with depth understand that creating that kind of complex in half of our population might do some real damage to our society, in fact might begin tearing away at social fabric in a way that might be extremely difficult to undo and shit.

* Adding "and shit" to any statement instantly gives you more street cred, so always add it when broaching an emotionally charged subject that exposes your own isecurities.

Dance With Dragons wrote: So what is different for me during foreplay (oral, fingering, etc) is that I know I can make a woman cum her brains out doing those things. I don't get the same reactions when I'm using my Dick, and it frustrates me.

This is not unusual. Only 30% of women reliably orgasm from intercourse alone, the vast majority need some additional clitoral stimulation most of the time. If you have slept with all those women since you were 14 you should have noticed that they are all different.

Dance With Dragons wrote: My SO will say she just wants me to fuck her, that she doesn't want foreplay, but I just feel so inadequate it prevents me from enjoying it. I feel like if I was bigger, truly in the average to above average range, it would make me feel like she wasn't faking, like I actually am giving her pleasure.

The fact is that you are above average in length and within the average range for Girth. The recent condomania data of 27,000 penises showed that 50% of men were 5 to 6 in length and 4 to 5 in width with 25% smaller and 25% larger.

If your SO can't orgasm from just intercourse getting a bigger penis is not likely to change that fact! Your issue is in your mind and you need to deal with that in addition to getting PE or you will never be happy. There are men with your size and smaller who are making "women cum their brains out".

Try this simple exercise. Say you gained .75" both length and Girth (certainly doable with procedures) to 7 x 5.25, will you be happy? Chances are if your SO can't have vaginal orgasms she still won't have one. FYI there are guys on here who have that size and are getting procedures.

Go again for another .75 so you are now 7.75 x 6.0 and much larger than most mainstream porn stars. Are you now happy?

Get the picture?

wich doctor are u having ur surgery with dancing with dragons?

Hypocracy at its best here.

Dr Casavantes told me he does not do length though. only width... He refered me to Dr Camacho for length. i thought u was interested in length too...

Sex is a seriously overrated pastime, in my opinion. Mass media are largely responsible for the worship of sex: in this time and age if you don't ejaculate onto a woman's face, you have not engaged in a threesome with Pamela Anderson looking girls that happily do ass-to-mouth, you are really missing something. They say.

As for women worrying about penis size, we let them! The balance of power tipped decades ago. It was not always like this.

It is my personal understanding (I might be wrong!) that ruthless bitches with a talent to make men miserable in the penis size compartment are particularly widespread in the US, relative to Europe say.Obviously, US culture propagates to Europe; on the plus side, Europeans can, say, enjoy reading the masterpieces written by Cormac McCarthy (please, consider reading "The Road", if you have not already). However, they also have to put with the underrated consequences of the popularity in Europe of "Sex and the City", for instance. How can the Sex&the City woman prototype coexist with the dominant conservative religious views in the US baffles me, but I digress.

What I am trying to say is that until you put "modern" women on the demand side and yourself on the supply, you will want lots of PMMA injected into your Cock. We let women believe they are sitting on a gold mine instead of a vagina. In the end, it is just pussy, not the holy grail. We should know better.

Heck, I have a large network of female friends, some of whom I've had intimacy/sex/size conversations with. I think it's healthy to engage the opposite sex in matters that essentially unite the sexes. What I think Supa is trying to get at are the segment of the female population who have used certain things (e.g. size) to suppress egos, manipulate, and even hurt men for whatever reason (presumably to achieve an upper hand in a relationship). Through PM's and IM's, I hear it all the time. And yes, I've read this stuff in message board threads, although more often at other PE Forums than here. It's just a reality. But these type of women should not be tolerated, just as women should not tolerate abusive men.

Hey DanceWithdrawing....Thanks for your posts. Yes we are men, and YES, we are supposed to talk about anything we need to discuss on this wonderful forum!
Thanks again....Keep us posted on your exciting adventure....Best to you.

To address your 3 points:

The notion of emasculation is as much theoretical as it is an opinion, and to find it condescending makes you far too sensitive to engage in these sort of conversations. I'm not entirely sure this "emasculation" is going on at all, but I have as much anecdotal evidence as you have to state its legitimacy one-way-or-the-other.Oh it's absolutely ironic. You were once a man with a thinner penis. Was your perspective different then? Now that you are bigger, has this changed your perception on things? I bet it has. Clearly size must have been of some importance. To seek out an experimental procedure for the purpose of augmenting one's size done purely for your own amusement? I doubt it.The point is that it makes you sound like a rude prick. I responded in kind in hopes that you'd see how it "sounded." I was hoping you would sense some disrespect, not because I meant to disrespect you, but so that you could see how it had an affect on others. It's easy to type away behind your screen, sometimes oblivious to your own arrogance.

Quote: "What I am trying to say is that until you put "modern" women on the demand side and yourself on the supply, you will want lots of PMMA injected into your Cock"

Unfortunately that may never happen in the US. The men have lost there Balls and can't get them back. There are so many desperate men who will lower their standards to get "any" vagina, and this by itself will give the power to the woman. Add all the media that promotes women and demeans men, most men have no choice left but to add lots of PMMA to their penises and lots of Money to their wallets to be able to get a decent pussy!