TOPIC: THE TRUTH.

If you don't mind I want to ask same question for patients of Dr.N

camphallo wrote: I believe Dr C is a Dermatologist.

I was talking about a scar i had removed by a plastic surgeon, not Dr C.

I would say look up his credentials. See if he's a real doctor. I don't think dermatologists suppose to be doing penis enlargement procedures. I'll be checking myself when i get time. Also biggy I am not calling him a liar. I'm simply questioning has anyone ever been shown the amount of cc's he is injecting along with the filler packaging. Also don't you think it's fair to charge a lower price for 14ccs instead of the full price of 20 cc's at 30% which i think is listed on his site I'm not sure. Do you think it's fair for you to be charged full price for 14 cc's meanwhile the next guy gets
18 or 19ccs at full price?? DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE?? WHY SHOULD I PAY FULL PRICE FOR 10% BUT THE NEXT GUY PAYS FULL PRICE FOR 30%?? DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE BRO

Lexus27 wrote: I would say look up his credentials. See if he's a real doctor. I don't think dermatologists suppose to be doing penis enlargement procedures. I'll be checking myself when i get time. Also biggy I am not calling him a liar. I'm simply questioning has anyone ever been shown the amount of cc's he is injecting along with the filler packaging. Also don't you think it's fair to charge a lower price for 14ccs instead of the full price of 20 cc's at 30% which i think is listed on his site I'm not sure. Do you think it's fair for you to be charged full price for 14 cc's meanwhile the next guy gets
18 or 19ccs at full price?? DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE?? WHY SHOULD I PAY FULL PRICE FOR 10% BUT THE NEXT GUY PAYS FULL PRICE FOR 30%?? DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE BRO

I'm a small guy in general, not just my penis. When I buy a pair of jeans at the store, I pay the same as a tall, fat dude, yet he gets far more material for his money.

As for credentials, I think it depends on the type of PE. I wouldn't want a Dermatologist doing a lig cut surgery on me, I'd want a Urologist or plastic surgeon. But, likewise, I wouldn't really want a Urologist to perform a cosmetic filler based procedure, I'd rather have a Dermatologist. Bioplasty was invented by Dr Nacul and he trained Dr C. I doubt I'd find a a Urologist who has anywhere near, or even any, experience with bioplasty. In terms of PMMA in the penis, there simply isn't anyone to rival Dr C. However, there are other types of PE and if I were to choose one of those instead, I wouldn't consider a Dr trained in Bioplasty.

It's not technically not cosmetic surgery, actual surgery would be in a sterile OR suite. adding to the cost is was I trying to explain get verses a spa, clinic or dentist as you seemed to imply. In your response. Cosmetic procedures yes done by a Dermatologist is not a plastic surgery done by a cosmetic surgeon.

@Avanti Derma Well then can you explain why I've never heard of a patient saying they actually got their full 20ccs even on the first round? I've heard guys say they wanted 30% down the whole shaft but recieved less.There are plenty of patient reports on here and it seems that even though you gave them less, they still ended up with bumps,uneven spots etc. Some even had to and want to get it removed. So there is really no logic behind giving less or more. Seems to me that there's a 50% chance the patient will end up with bumps and unevenness either way. So why not give them what they pay for? All I'm stating is that it's not fair to some guys who scraped up money to come to you because of your reputation to receive less ccs than the next guy and pays the same. It should be the patient's choice. Some patients even said inside of their progress reports about how you've decided to give them the amount of ccs you thought was sufficient enough not the other way around..

Lexus27 wrote: Funny how no body has actually said dr.c actually showed them the box which contains the actual PMMA filler with the amount of ccs. I'll keep waiting. Also again I'm not saying dr.c isn't good. What I'm saying is if i pay for 20 cc's and want it at 30%,then that's what i should get. We'll fix issues later. Why am i paying the full price for him to give me what he wants?? Please don't say "oh he knows best which is true but I've seen many members still come out uneven with less. For all they know they could be just getting 10 ccs. I'm not saying this is true but just a thought.

I didn't get shown the box or packaging etc, but I didn't ask to see it. But I got 14 cc. Why would he tell me i got such a relatively small amount if he lies about it? It just makes no sense. I paid the full price and he didn't try and make me feel as if he'd injected more than he did just to make me feel like I got the same as others who also paid the full price.

The reason he wont inject you full of 30% is because different parts of the shaft take the PMMA better than others. From what I've seen he never injects the area below the glans with 30%, so he wont just inject you with just 30%.

I understand your concerns if go there just ask him to show you the boxes and the product inside. Then watch the procedure as he does it.

George7 wrote: I had 15cc 10% with Dr N and she showed me before. Was so nervous I did not really have a look, but she did even without me asking. It had more to do with the fact she prefers 30% and I wanted 10% so showed me it was 10%

Same. Showed me briefly without asking to see it. Could have shown me anything in a little bottle and would not have questioned it.

It would be very easy for a doctor to deceive a patient if they wanted? so once you commit, you just have to trust they will give you what they say they will/have

Have you had a procedure with Dr.C? Are you surmising what you think? I saw the video "Big Like Me" Unless things have changed in his office and I quote you as saying

"it's done very much like you are having actual plastic surgery and in a surgical setting"

That is not a surgical suite like you would see in a hospital or even a out patient surgery setting. I have a significant medical back ground it appears no different from what you might find in almost any cosmetic spa or clinic where fillers are done.Most Brazilian Doctors inject large amounts of PMMA almost any where. Brazil is a BioPlasty mecca of the world. I have been reading researching this for over 10 years from Medical Journals and Published studies.

I am actually getting ready to take the plunge to do it. I'm just more cautious most having seen so many disastrous results from cosmetic fillers and procedure first hand. I do think that a lot of people are reckless they read about something want it so bad they go and do it. I like to know as much as I can before I do anything invasive. If something goes wrong I'm prepared.

I do agree that you have pay for time and skill. If you contact Dr.C office as I have in the past they stated that reason the price has gone is because the price of product has gone up perhaps Linnea Safe is more expensive. His office also a corner on the market I'm sure that is factor as well. There is nothing wrong with asking to see the product before any procedure in a clinic setting it would be a foolish not to. To bad there many providers out there go lite on product to save a buck I'm sure. I am no implying Advanti Derma does this.

Bang for buck is import to most unless you unwise with money or wealthy. Most people I hope try look for balance skill/history of Doctor involved and results.

Hello Lexus27,

If you have ever received our information package you can clearly read that we recommend UP TO 20 cc's per session with the concentrations 10% & 30%.

We wish we could fill your penis with as much filler as you want, however; your penis is not a balloon that can be filled with huge amounts. Besides, do you really know how PMMA works? If you like we can give you detailed information on how PMMA promotes your own collagen which is what really makes the enhancement.

Every patient is awake during the procedure, they can ask to see the filler, the packaging, the stickers with the lot number and count the syringes themselves if they like. The filler is inside of the patients and their results are real.


You can ask any patient of us about their Avanti Derma experience, you can ask about our facilities and the professionalism of our team. We are really ( without bragging) offering a first world experience to each patient.

It is also true that we are not the only option, we have that clear, but we are one of the few practices that have always been honest, transparent and informative about the options we offer.

We invite you to DM us if you require more information.

Regards,

Avanti Derma Team.

I think the important part you are missing is UP TO, Lexus. Looks like they actually state this.
And also keep in mind they have to keep standards and ethics with their works, they don't want a reputation of making freak dicks cause that would ruin their business.
It's not like you throw money at them and get how much you want, it doesn't work like that for most doctors.

I've been to DrN 3 times and I've seen here unpacking the stuff out of original boxes everytime. She also take a sticker (I guess there is a set in every box) with a batch number and stick into the paperwork she keeps about me.. Also as someone mentioned she really only wants to do 10ml each round but has started to give for pressure and is doing more.. I got 18ml last time and she was quite adamant that's absolutely max (this is 1,5 years ago ish)

Look back at some of threads on this board there have a number of men on this board that have procedures up to 5 times at Avanti Derma some would say they have freak dicks but who am judge they seem very happy with their results. I'm not going call anyone out as it their own personal choice and I Respect and Admire them for following and fulfilling their dreams. I don't like when people make statements that are subjective. Some guys want a almost monstrous dong.

I really think there is a very unhealthy obsession with "bang for your buck" on this forum. PMMA is so cheap for someone like Dr C, that the idea of him skimping to save money is quite frankly absurd. I think more should be posted on the origins of the PE procedure, by the likes of Dr Nacul etc, so people start to understand the importance of using smaller amounts, especially for the first round. In my opinion 10cc is a more appropriate amount for the first round and I think that is what most of the Brazilian Dr's and Dr N recommends. It kind of lays the foundation and gives the Dr and patient and better idea of how well the product does in their anatomy. As I understand Dr C' is prepared to inject up to 20 cc per round. It's not the PMMA you are really paying for as I doubt he pays more than $40 per cc. It's the time, skill and the fact he uses an assistant. You don't just walk in, take your pants off, have a bit a antiseptic wiped on and then have him inject with a needle for 10-15 mins. Even though it's a non surgical procedure, it's done very much like you are having actual plastic surgery and in a surgical setting. It isn't an "in and out" kind of place. Each appointment is booked for 2 hours. Before anyone starts ranting, check with those who have had HA with a needle etc and see if they get the same level of attention.

I'm sure we have enough Dr N patients on the forum who will confirm that ideally she'd like to use around 10 cc on the first round. There is a reason for this. You can't predict how each individual will react to the filler, as everyone's penis is different. You are paying more for Dr C's time, skill and the fact he uses an assistant, than you are the actual PMMA.