TOPIC: Where do they even put the pmma?

I watches while Dr N did second round. It goes over the last round, between skin and 'meat' of the penis.

It just goes in between bucks and Dartos fascia. Bucks is very stiff, whereas dartos is thin and easy to pierce with a needle and go through with a cannula. It ultimately will stick to the Dartos fascia and may interfere with its normal function (lymphatic drainage) causing post-sex swelling and a general swollen look. Dartos and the skin are very hard to separate. To truly remove it, you can dissect the nodules off dartos sometimes - but sometimes you have to excise the skin and dartos to get the PMMA out if it is a Nodule. In a deglove, they would be able to carve it all out, in theory... at least that is what Dr. Alter does. My doc just cut chunks of it out in a "reverse" deglove (he went in through my scrotum). I still have some PMMA in there but he cut out a lot at the base where it was very hard and jagged.

Fair enough chester, fair enough.

Dream wrote: A case where pmma was blocking the dorsal vein, causing severe bad stuff - phalloboards.websitetoolbox.com/post/nag...g-8459184?&trail=300

How does this happen? Just superbad luck? I mean putting pmma in the area is normal, isn't it?? Doc puts pmma on whole sides and top of penis (not on underside, to not block urethra)?

That's very interesting and scary.
I've a very noticable dorsal vein of the penis, never thought something so bad can happen.

Do any of you guys had any issue with PMMA and dorsal vein?

Reklaw wrote: They put it in the subcutaneous tissues.

Interesting. It seems like a small target
And only on top and sides, to not get in the way of the urethra.

brock wrote: What about the second and 3rd rounds after round 1 sets?? It sounds like they go UNDER the 1st round?

That's something i also wonder about.
Is it 'on top' of the 'settled pmma', or is it somewhere in there.
I would have guessed it's on top, because it's soft on the top after the injections.

I'm just curious for Uncut men. Where Doctor C injects PMMA is it deeper than the Foreskin? How does he know how much to inject without it getting into the Foreskin? His results on Uncut men seem to be amazing than any other doctor I've seen. I understand he uses less PMMA and only 10 percent . I'm just wondering if his result is better because he injects deeper that way it can't enter the Foreskin?

A case where pmma was blocking the dorsal vein, causing severe bad stuff - phalloboards.websitetoolbox.com/post/nag...g-8459184?&trail=300

How does this happen? Just superbad luck? I mean putting pmma in the area is normal, isn't it?? Doc puts pmma on whole sides and top of penis (not on underside, to not block urethra)?

ll wrote: Ugh, sorry to hear it. What was your PE routine, and do you suspect any one thing to be the cause? I had some signs of a similar issue and stopped PE early enough that I recovered.

Cheers

I've been trying different things for around 8 years so its hard to remember the exact routines. Length was a real lost cause for me, nothing i did worked. I eased into PE quite sensibly, so i started with lighter things, simple stretches, jelqs etc on a daily basis, to which had zero effect on my measurements. As years went by, things became more rigorous.I owned a bib Hanger, which is probably one of the most hardcore Hanging devices you can use for length, I was routinely Hanging for 30 minutes a day with close to 20lbs of weight for months. All i achieved was a loss in sensitivity, and a load of ugly loose skin under my glans...a well known 'turkey neck' side effect of Hanging. It was quite disheartening.I know people who have done pretty much the same routines as i did......sometimes even lighter in weight, and they gains up to an Inch in length -_-I also used a jes-extender before that absolutely years ago, but it was impossible to sleep with, or move around properly.....ended up being too uncomfortable, made my Dick cold and numb and the traction wasnt quite strong enough so the only real way of making up for it was to wear it for up to 6 hours...which was just not feasible for me. My only success was with Girth, and i achieved this through Clamping, and chemical PE.I would wear a tight cockring, and inject my Dick with caverject and IGF-1 LR3 (IGF-1 DES, if i could get hold of it...as its better for site injecting). Basically prolonging a rock hard Erection, with tissue building hormones trapped in my Dick for around 2 hours at a time. It was utterly brutal, and insanely painful, took some serious will powers to see it out.I was doing this once every 72hours(which is around the time it takes for IGF-1 to grow new cells). For about a year on and off.I gained 0.5inches of solid Girth(non-swelling) within only a couple of months. But i had an unbreakable plateau with it soon after. I think the ED i gave myself from having sex with tight rings prevented me from getting mind-blowingly hard enough to stretch my tissues out any further.(i already had ED from horrendous steroid abuse before i started this...else i would probably have just used IGF-1 by itself - but at this time due to my sexual hormones being in the toilet, i needed caverject to induce an Erection hard enough, for enough time to let all the IGF go to work.) Of course i think my blood vessels, veins and arteries paid a bit of a price, from the pressure i was applying. As i lost some EQ..but not a huge amount. However i put my most drastic loss in EQ down to wearing really tight rings during sex. It was around that point in my life where i had a real drop in EQ. Atleast during my Clamping routines i was gentle with my hands......where as when i was having sex, id be putting my whole bodyweight on it sometimes, bending it against resistance etc etc. I'm not exactly a small guy either, im 6'3 and 18 stone, so i think that took its toll on me.

I think we're all a bit troubled here......

You made some really good points and you may yet be right about my situation.

Is it general ed you have?

Interestingly, in the UK (I assume you're uk), the patent for Cialis just expired this Novemeber.

We'll be able to buy 20mg pills for less than a pound. Check the reputable british pharmacies, buy in bulk from them at it works out at about 80p. Given that it works for 36 hours that's about 50p a day.
For generic tadalafil of course.

When I had my second round with Dr C he put it under my first layer. Any low spots or imperfections he applied above the first layer. I'm about two weeks post op, very smooth finish finish no irregularities so far. I wonder why Dr N goes on top? Did you ask her at the time.

naginati wrote: Does calais/tadalafil have the same side ffects for you, MrW?I had the same thing from natural PE. I would consider it more dangerous than PMMA.At least PMMA will certainly make you bigger for the trouble.

Tadalafil does work, but its less effective for me than sildenafil/viagra. I prefer how quickly and how drastically viagra effects me before sex in comparison. However my side effects while the same... arent as extreme on tadalafil...and of course the half-life is much longer. There are times in my life where tadalafil is more convenient. But i rarely use it. Yea, unless PMMA leads to some kind of horrible auto-immune reaction years down the line, i too would genuinely say that many PE routines are far more dangerous in terms of gambling with actual internal erectile function, inside the corpora cavernosa. Especially if you have quite resilient connective tissue in your penis. (Obviously PMMA poses much greater risk to what happens externally/superficially). I think genetics can play a big role. It has been scientifically proven that the tunica in mens penises can vary in layers of collagen+thickness. I'm in the belief that people who are well known for such drastic gains from what i'd deem to be fairly mediocre PE routines - such as mattersofsize.com's infamous DLD, are a prime example of people who have been blessed with relatively thinner/weaker tunicas. I think those guys never really have to push themselves to a point thats severely damaging to the blood vessels in order to make natural gains. Where as some of us have to wear an overly tight cockring and edge for hours on end just to make the slightest gains for Girth...and hang 20lbs+ of weight just to initiate a microscopic amount of length gain.

naginati wrote: Fair enough chester, fair enough.

You should spend one solid year on PE and if it doesn't work, at least you can stop and never have to worry about it again.

Another thing, you have to be realistic with your gains. I believe everyone can gain around an Inch, after that you're getting lucky.

What was your routine Koosh

Many people don't gain, you don't see it much in the posts, but i remember a statistic from thunders where 50% or something did not gain anything with hanging for 6 months or something. Bad thing i don't remember the numbers, but it was depressing.

I did have like 5 attempts of natural penis enlargement in the last 19 years. Each for about 3 months. One was jelqing, others were clamping, pumping, extender, all day stretcher.
Never made any gains (i think, could be i actually made gains as a teenager).

Here my current attempt:
phalloboards.websitetoolbox.com/post/nat...l-9506918?trail=15#1

They put it in the subcutaneous tissues.

MrW wrote: Unfortunately as that problem was slowly being corrected i think a new type of ED was brewing, from my PE stuff. So the truth behind the direct cause of my ED is somewhat of a mystery still i guess....

Ugh, sorry to hear it. What was your PE routine, and do you suspect any one thing to be the cause? I had some signs of a similar issue and stopped PE early enough that I recovered.

Cheers