--- title: "Hope?..after 9 months of treatment! - PhalloBoards - Phalloboards" description: "www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/t...to-double-in-length/ - Page 2" url: "https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8565645-hope-after-9-months-of-treatment.html?start=15" date: "2026-08-06T17:57:46+00:00" language: "en-GB" --- PhalloBoards - An Online Community to Discuss Penile Girth Enhancement General Forum Doctors Forum Username Password Remember me - [ Forgot your password? ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/reset.html?Itemid=101) - [ Forgot your username? ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/remind.html?Itemid=101) - [ Create an account ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) # TOPIC: Hope?..after 9 months of treatment! ## Re: Hope?..after 9 months of treatment! 9 years 1 month ago [\#1296284052](#1296284052) - **[Mustang2020](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1715850-mustang2020.html "View Mustang2020's Profile")** - [![Mustang2020's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1715850-mustang2020.html "View Mustang2020's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1715850-mustang2020.html) - Moderator - ![Moderator](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rankmod.gif) - Posts: 1795 - Thanks: 18 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1715850) Yes, the moment the sperm enters the egg, one's Dick size has already been determined. Any chemicals or Testosterone, peptides and such will not increase the size. They may increase one's EQ or libido, but not the size. Of course there are a few people who respond to Hanging and their EL may increase somewhat but generally speaking the size is what it is! Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZ2VuZXJhbC1mb3J1bS9nZW5lcmFsLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLWFyY2hpdmUvODU2NTY0NS1ob3BlLWFmdGVyLTktbW9udGhzLW9mLXRyZWF0bWVudC5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MTU=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Hope?..after 9 months of treatment! 9 years 1 month ago [\#1296271788](#1296271788) - **[naginati](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4881541-naginati.html "View naginati's Profile")** - [![naginati's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4881541-naginati.html "View naginati's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4881541-naginati.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 636 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4881541) > brock wrote: HAHA! I'll bet Nagi and I have both at least googled it at one point.. if not Test then definitely a peptide like HGH. Unfortunately no benefit.. nothing except probably a lot of pain. > I am shooting the BPC-157 into my fat pad right now to get it as close to my unit as possible for recovery. Ye, I did my research lol. HGH possibly increases grith but you would have to take so much that you would run into sides, bigger hands, chin, feet and so.Still not convinvced that it would increase Girth. If it did I would have the needle in there. Shitting myself while doing it. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZ2VuZXJhbC1mb3J1bS9nZW5lcmFsLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLWFyY2hpdmUvODU2NTY0NS1ob3BlLWFmdGVyLTktbW9udGhzLW9mLXRyZWF0bWVudC5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MTU=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Hope?..after 9 months of treatment! 9 years 1 month ago [\#1296308922](#1296308922) - **[aftershock](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4473184-aftershock.html "View aftershock's Profile")** - [![aftershock's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4473184-aftershock.html "View aftershock's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4473184-aftershock.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 49 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4473184) Rest, Neither test or hgh are reliable fat burners. More the opposite, anyone into stacking uses test to gain, hgh is used as more repair without the side effects of over filling your system of to much test. Unless your in andropause, test will burn only if you dont exceed natural levels otherwise you increase appetite and you gain. Stazanol or Win v is used to shred while training. Down side if you want to keep your liver let alone health stay away, to many friends of mine are constantly getting checked. Clenbuterol works if you dont mind ![heart](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/emoticons/heart.png "heart") damage just like stacking any of the family that ends in buterol. I never trusted the mail order 17 years ago, mexico in person was cheaper and safer, but then again the half life is why its no for sale here. Like you said in trust, I would never inject anything that from somewhere you dont know. You might lose more then your manhood. I suggest seeing endocrinologist and see where you are with everything. If what your doing for diet exercise isnt working after that, if your interested I can help you off the side of here for free. Not worth seeing something bad happening or having more time go with same results. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZ2VuZXJhbC1mb3J1bS9nZW5lcmFsLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLWFyY2hpdmUvODU2NTY0NS1ob3BlLWFmdGVyLTktbW9udGhzLW9mLXRyZWF0bWVudC5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MTU=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Hope?..after 9 months of treatment! 9 years 1 month ago [\#1296271298](#1296271298) - **[Bolkonsky](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4907368-bolkonsky.html "View Bolkonsky's Profile")** - [![Bolkonsky's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4907368-bolkonsky.html "View Bolkonsky's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4907368-bolkonsky.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 177 - Thanks: 1 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4907368) you guys the trick is you have to shoot the test into your Dick... *totally joking for any idiot who might do that.* Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZ2VuZXJhbC1mb3J1bS9nZW5lcmFsLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLWFyY2hpdmUvODU2NTY0NS1ob3BlLWFmdGVyLTktbW9udGhzLW9mLXRyZWF0bWVudC5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MTU=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Hope?..after 9 months of treatment! 9 years 1 month ago [\#1296271810](#1296271810) - **[naginati](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4881541-naginati.html "View naginati's Profile")** - [![naginati's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4881541-naginati.html "View naginati's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4881541-naginati.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 636 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4881541) Remember your first injection Brock? I had a 21 gauge 1.5inch needle in the quad. shaking so much when I did it. 21 gauge......I knew nothing. Imagine putting it in your penis. Damn that would take Balls. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZ2VuZXJhbC1mb3J1bS9nZW5lcmFsLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLWFyY2hpdmUvODU2NTY0NS1ob3BlLWFmdGVyLTktbW9udGhzLW9mLXRyZWF0bWVudC5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MTU=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Hope?..after 9 months of treatment! 9 years 1 month ago [\#1296314053](#1296314053) - **[Restoration](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2984876-restoration.html "View Restoration's Profile")** - [![Restoration's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2984876-restoration.html "View Restoration's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2984876-restoration.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 1185 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=2984876) I do not tend to lose fat easily anymore. I guess it is age or yoyo dieting in the past - who knows. The best way for me to look better and lose fat (I discovered by accident) is to go heavy on the weights and protein...and low-ish on carbs. I don't even need to go that low on carbs (I tried keto and it made no difference from just eating carefully). I will naturally start losing fat with weight lifting. . If I just to cardio and diet...or light weights and not tons of protein, nothing really changes at all. Maybe I will be able to run a little faster by the end of the month, but it's so minimal. More muscle mass raises resting metabolism to an extent anyway, and weight lifting is pretty intense for short bursts, like the idea behind HIIT I guess? (Cardio HIIT isn't that effective for me). Using additional T as a shortcut may seem stupid since I don't want to e a bodybuilder or model, but when I see no progress...no progress... no progress... for months on end... it makes it impossible to keep going. My T levels were normal, btw - on the higher end of the range, though that was a year ago. Nothing drastic has changed with my weight (fat or muscle) in a year. Just a few pounds up and down as usual. The larger issue is that I lost most of my interest in looking good after surgery #12 on my Dick that really did nothing other than make it look more irregular, more scarred, and smaller. It was supposed to be the final surgery to solve everything, but it was far from that. The surgeon took so much PMMA out (in an irregular way) that it looked even more bizarre with all the swelling gone. I saw the pics in my posting history...I forgot I put them up here, but yeah it doesn't look good. I got a little juvederm for those gaps (not much, but it is very expensive), and it looks crazy AF when soft...but it's sort of ok hard. 1/2 the juvederm is gone now at 8 months. Two years is way too optimistic for that stuff. Edit - by the way, on the topic of this post - it only makes sense if the receptors are still available to receive the hormone's signal & respond to it. I am very surprised he was 34....but maybe whatever condition he had was responsible for T still being able to work at that site (I thought it was DHT that makes the Dick grow, but I think it's still open to debate). 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I'm on test and equipoise just now. The test is 300mg/ml and the equipoise is 500mg/ml. lol The boldenone is really thick. I have to heat it up with my hand to make it injectable. I may have to dilute it. Not easy pinning, need some thumb gains to push the bloody plunger. 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I ordered something from some site - but then I started reading bad things about it and got too nervous to use it. I was thinking maybe having a better body would help me get over the fact my Dick looks like it was mauled by a rottweiler. Also, I really need to lose fat. All the fat burners (and I got real ones) are not worth it. T3, albuterol (clen is a nightmare), and other OTC supplements == minimal fat loss, even with diet and exercise. The only way I have lost fat in the past is to put on more muscle and lift weights. Cardio and diet and fat burners don't do anything for my BF percentage. I have been pretty depressed after what has happened for ... I don't know - over a year now? And I am not really out of shape but I did get fat. Fortunately, that guy (and one of the reasons I left the board) appears to have had his account deactivated. He went off on some psycho rant toward me about gaining weight, among other things... as if he'd cope with a mutilated Dick so much better. I gained like 15 lbs...the horror. But, it's like impossible to lose. Maybe it's an age thing or maybe I am not disciplined enough. Perhaps with additional assistance I'll be able to get rid of it. I think HGH itself can burn fat and build muscle - moreso than test. Since I never did a cycle, I read I should just do T... but alas I was afraid to inject that stuff (and why does it come in those crazy vials you have to crack? I feel like it would cut my finger open....anyway...) 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I think the regular insulin needle is 29 gauge. 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I really appreciate it. Yeah, I watched various ways of opening the amps... like even using the back of an open syringe (it's on youtube). I didn't realize HGH wasn't as good as test... that is good to know! I don't work out at a major chain gym anymore - but there were PLENTY of steroid users in there... my god. I am just working out in a small, private gym. I'll be in touch more later. I don't wanna derail what the OP was talking about - or maybe it's already derailed. It's been a while. lol. > Also, wtf is this story with someone harassing you on here!? I'd love to see that thread-- I'd probably get pissed, but It would be an interesting read Here's the thread. The person who was replying is no longer on the board. He was just jumping into a topic he didn't understand, since he knew nothing about how physicians work & at that time - I had an open wound on my Dick for 2 months and was clearly not happy. It was due to a Dermatologist here (whose office partner was a friend of mine) that used a lazy suture method (simple suture, not vertical mattress - and the penis changes shape, so that was just not a good method) and wrong kind of Sutures (silk - never a good choice except in eye surgery) & so I wanted my part of the payment back. He still got something from insurance, but I basically paid like $2000 to have him give me an open wound on my Dick for 2 months that another doctor had to close by excising a lot of skin in a full surgery center. Like I said to the other poster at the time, I had 1000 posts and no issue with anyone in all that time (like 2 years on here). He had 25 posts in a month or so... and already started an issue with me & I think someone else prior to me but I can't remember. So, that should make it clear who the one w/ the problem is. (Anyway, if you read it - just PM me) Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZ2VuZXJhbC1mb3J1bS9nZW5lcmFsLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLWFyY2hpdmUvODU2NTY0NS1ob3BlLWFmdGVyLTktbW9udGhzLW9mLXRyZWF0bWVudC5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MTU=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Hope?..after 9 months of treatment! 9 years 1 month ago [\#1296310756](#1296310756) - **[brock](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4570346-brock.html "View brock's Profile")** - [![brock's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4570346-brock.html "View brock's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4570346-brock.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 278 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4570346) AS- we can have a friendly debate on whether test is a fat burner or not via PM... but my point is, if you don't HAVE it, you will not lose weight optimally. I may be a special case, everything works differently depending on the person (I can cut on Anadrol). I don't hold water on any AAS. You see a 40+ year old guy with low test - what's the common trend? Spare tire, love handles, fat-tits. If you want to look like you did when you were 18 you need the hormone levels from that age. And I agree with a hormone profile baseline before anything. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZ2VuZXJhbC1mb3J1bS9nZW5lcmFsLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLWFyY2hpdmUvODU2NTY0NS1ob3BlLWFmdGVyLTktbW9udGhzLW9mLXRyZWF0bWVudC5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MTU=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Hope?..after 9 months of treatment! 9 years 1 month ago [\#1296272612](#1296272612) - **[naginati](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4881541-naginati.html "View naginati's Profile")** - [![naginati's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4881541-naginati.html "View naginati's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4881541-naginati.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 636 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4881541) > brock wrote: 1.5 Inch 21 gauge. That's like a samurai sword. haha. I was so nervous too! I remember it clear as day, and that was a long time ago my friend. Ye, I remember withdrawing the needle to have blood run out. Now I often get that now with 29 gauge, but it's a dribble at most. That first occasion was a river. I just thought, 'huh, must always be like this'. There's ignorance and then there's retardation..... 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It is MUCH less painful that way. 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That's like a samurai sword. haha. I was so nervous too! I remember it clear as day, and that was a long time ago my friend. 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Seen over 6 years of testoserone, stanzanol, deca, hgh, in others. I was shooting 2cc every 2 weeks of test for awhile to try because my best friend had been for many years, felt small in his shadow. Once your past puberty all juice is going to do is give you a higher sex drive along with making it firmer, Your not going to see anything in gain worth talking about, but it might help with Repair with pumping and stretching possibly. Be care and dont make my mistake and use or over use without knowing any health problems you are not aware of. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZ2VuZXJhbC1mb3J1bS9nZW5lcmFsLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLWFyY2hpdmUvODU2NTY0NS1ob3BlLWFmdGVyLTktbW9udGhzLW9mLXRyZWF0bWVudC5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MTU=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. 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