TOPIC: Spoke to Dr Horn about PMMA

Hunkydory01 wrote: I don't really know - I have heard that you get some collagen out of it - but I don't really know too much about it. Glad you got something out of it.

Thank you

Hunkydory01 wrote: The weirdest thing about that response is the combination of how seriously bad PMMA is if you with "I'll do it for you if you really want it". I wouldn't inject anything into anybody that I thought was seriously bad for them whether they wanted it or not.

I translated that as his internal thoughts,
'HA makes much more money for us so I want to put him off PMMA. In the event that I cannot him disuade, however, we'll do the PMMA. Least we make a but of money that way.

Cynical? Yes, yes I am.

Hyaluronidase starts working in 4 hours and ends in 48

I was thinking about getting it dissolved in order to have a clean base for PMMA. It turns out it takes just as long to dissolve it as it does for your body to get rid of it anyway so there's almost no point. I got my HA in October 2016 admittedly only 8ml so not that much but i probably only have about 30-40% of it left.

mediatps wrote: It is also intriguing that Dr Horn may also be able to inject PMMA. What are people's thoughts on that?

So Francis has your best interest at , but is prepared for Dr Horn to inject you with a filler he has no experience with, that is permanent! Basically it's somehow better in his mind for you to go to Dr Horn who has never done PMMA, using an unnamed brand of PMMA (which is significant as the carriers vary), than it is to fly to Prague and get it done with a Dr who does it all the time. You should ask him why he thinks Dr Horn who has no experience with PMMA is a better choice than Dr N? I've got the feeling that not a single person without a vested interest in Dr Horn, would agree that makes more sense to go to him than Dr N.


I think the medical community (the likes of Francis and Dr Horn) needs to learn about PE (especially PMMA) from Phalloboards, not the other way around. I know that sounds like an arrogant thing to say, but I really feel it's true, as never before has there been such an impartial resource for people to follow PE procedures over an extended period of time. Medical studies are worthless in comparison. We've got a shit ton of progress reports by real guys, with photos, talking in detail about their experience with various procedures and often over several years. These should be just as much of a gold mine of information for the medical community as they are for regular guys interested in PE. It frustrates when people dismiss the reality of what we've witnessed on this forum over the last 8 years, as it kind of means we've all wasted out time.

Can Ellanse injections be done in the uk, or is that a trip to Australia?

Dr Oates wrote: Also soon I may have some photos of using Ellanse to cover some nodules from PMMA. But if I don't have them by the 30th of June I may not be able to post and I am not recommitting to a commercial account. SO is putting up prices and actually we don't make enough out of PE vs what we are putting into it.

Dr. Oates, with due respect, I frankly don't know of another media source that will give you this level of highly qualified audience. I also don't think that your investment has been given enough time for accurate ROI assessment. I own a digital marketing firm and we don't even accept accounts that are less than one year marketing investment. You are a relative newbie here; just starting out. I would give it at least another year before you decide whether this is a good medium for your marketing dollars.*

For the record, I don't know SO or have any position or relationship with the board, other than being a member.

Hyaluronidase

sexy beast wrote: regardless of what he said if u guys r in europe, canada or australia, i think your best bet is Ellanse. it works 4 years, 3,2 or 1 and is gone if u like or fill it back up. there r products out there made for the face that r permanent but our philosophy is "permanent procedures can give u permanent problems" that being said it can really depend on your genetics so we have no way of knowing that a permanent procedure will work best for u until after.

Can Ellanse be done in the uk or is that a trip to Australia?

I hope that after 30th June I can still ask questions at the Calibre website ...

sexy beast wrote: regardless of what he said if u guys r in europe, canada or australia, i think your best bet is Ellanse. it works 4 years, 3,2 or 1 and is gone if u like or fill it back up.

Agreed.

Reference: Read Dr Kim's website or buy his text book on Penoplasty from Amazon. He is the best urologist in Asia and fixes people with funny substances injected into their penises in Thailand etc all the time.
www.urodoc.co/pmma.htm

Hello guys,
It is interesting that somebody uses a crappy website with biased opinions to reference what should be a serious discussion about GE products.
That reference is not even grammatically correct, has no censure, and no indexed literature references at all. It is simply somebody's own opinion published in his own website.
I can easily respond with a peer-reviewed, scientific publication that includes statistics and methodic observation of more than 700 patients for over 10 years:
www.jsm.jsexmed.org/article/S1743-6095(16)30299-5/abstract

Lots of good points from everyone here.
One thing to consider is that, as consumers, we really need competition. This is especially true in Europe. Dr n started somewhere and she will have done so with less experience than Dr Horn. To maximise performance of Dr's and minimise price there must be competition.
All dr's are in it for the money. That's not a criticism, we all work for coin.
I say go for it. I may for next round.

Which HA are we talking about here?? There different types

sg0123456 wrote: Which HA are we talking about here?? There different types

I cant exactly go into details about that because im sure its forbidden. I dont know which type it was, it was made in some lab.