--- title: "FFT with Morganstern - PhalloBoards - Phalloboards" description: "I'm thinking of going to Dr. Morganstern who seems to be a highly recommended urologist in ATL. After seeing his website, before... - Page 4" url: "https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8521382-fft-with-morganstern.html?start=45" date: "2026-08-06T12:00:15+00:00" language: "en-GB" --- PhalloBoards - An Online Community to Discuss Penile Girth Enhancement General Forum Doctors Forum Username Password Remember me - [ Forgot your password? ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/reset.html?Itemid=101) - [ Forgot your username? ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/remind.html?Itemid=101) - [ Create an account ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) # TOPIC: FFT with Morganstern ## Re: FFT with Morganstern 9 years 2 months ago [\#1296241336](#1296241336) - **[Bubbrubb1](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/3254968-bubbrubb1.html "View Bubbrubb1's Profile")** - [![Bubbrubb1's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/3254968-bubbrubb1.html "View Bubbrubb1's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/3254968-bubbrubb1.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 5 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=3254968) Watching your thread as I'm skeptical yet hopeful as well. Can you give pricing and did you ask about Flaccid/turtle game if that's an issue for you? 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Yes most of the swelling has gone down and my stats (10 days post op) are: 4.9 FG~6.5 FG 5.5EG~ 7.25EG 5" FL~ 6"FL 7" EL~ 7.75" EL PS. I don't have much swelling at the fat pad but it's hard from where they harvested the fat. I'll send updated pics tonight after work. 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What about length? 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Has all the swelling gone down by now? After the swelling, what did your final size revert back to FL and EL, and Girth? You said he took the fat from the pubic area? I hope the missing fat pad isn't part of the reason why there is an increase in EL measurements. 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So we can get an idea if this is a success or not. 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They were both done by the same guy and he also did my HA. I didn't gain Erect length, but I did gain Flaccid length and not just from the weight. The actual HA was placed at the very base and was pretty sturdy. It created a situation a bit like when you measure stretched Flaccid length in that the penis is pulled away from the pubic bone in a way that it isn't with a normal Erection, which is why most guys Flaccid stretched length is longer than their Erect length. It's one of those hard things to explain and I'm probably making a real pigs ear of it, but basically I think by placing the HA in the right spot, it made Erect length the same as Flaccid stretched length. If the fat was placed in the same way my HA was, then I could see potential for Erect length gains, based on what I heard from the other guys I mentioned. We can trust them as one of the was HunkyDory. Maybe he can chime in. Even so 3/4" of an Inch seems a bit much. Also, for those asking for updates, it's almost pointless asking for FFT updates for 6 months to a year. If you read Wildcats posts you'll see his result has changed many months post procedure. 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He knows what he's doing. Lumps that I've had for over a year from previous FFT procedure were easily fixed. > No cutting and no steroid injections, and the cost was very reasonable. Have had issues with ED since other previous procedures that began in the summer of 2016.He is addressing that next. Going in for blood flow study and other test..... Have total confidence in him. Says I should never have gotten the lumps I had. So after he removed the lumps are you happy with what you have? How much gain are you left with overall? 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I'm deployed so I can't really call or stop by his office. I have emailed him twice with no response. Let us know how it goes please. 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Yes I did have a few issues. I have 2 nodules the size of pennies but I went to the doctor and he fixed it for free. I have another appt for him to fix the Nodule and it should go away. I did reabsorb a little uneven at the base but I'll have another procedure next year to add a little more to correct it. I didn't gain anymore length but I still pump and use the stretcher Morganstern gave me so maybe I'll gain more down the road. All in all I'm very satisfied. I went from 4.8' Flaccid Girth to 6.25 Flaccid Girth. 5.5' Erect Girth to 6.8 Erect Girth. Not really much in the length department, maybe .25. It does feel natural when Erect, but kind of soft when Flaccid but I've had no complaints and my partners couldn't tell.. here's an updated pic. Hope this helps. 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I concur with your sentiments regarding this procedure. 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Yes most of the swelling has gone down and my stats (10 days post op) are: 4.9 FG~6.5 FG 5.5EG~ 7.25EG 5" FL~ 6"FL 7" EL~ 7.75" EL PS. I don't have much swelling at the fat pad but it's hard from where they harvested the fat. I'll send updated pics tonight after work. This is what I'm hoping for .. 1 Inch in EL and 1.5 inches in EG Sounds very promising plus the Glans Voluma Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZ2VuZXJhbC1mb3J1bS9nZW5lcmFsLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLWFyY2hpdmUvODUyMTM4Mi1mZnQtd2l0aC1tb3JnYW5zdGVybi5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9NDU=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: FFT with Morganstern 9 years 2 months ago [\#1301855466](#1301855466) - **[ll](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4753007-ll.html "View ll's Profile")** - [![ll's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4753007-ll.html "View ll's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4753007-ll.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 132 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4753007) > LatinLog wrote: Morganstern claims have me very skeptical. I have done quite a bit of research on fat transfer and the newest methods involve Pure Graft to cleanse and filter the fat. In your research have you come across any mention of SVF? aleksk mentions it at the end of this post: [ phalloboards.websitetoolbox.com/post/rej...uvall&pid=1293821898](http://phalloboards.websitetoolbox.com/post/rejuvall-8293061?highlight=rejuvall&pid=1293821898) Cheers, the other LL Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZ2VuZXJhbC1mb3J1bS9nZW5lcmFsLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLWFyY2hpdmUvODUyMTM4Mi1mZnQtd2l0aC1tb3JnYW5zdGVybi5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9NDU=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: FFT with Morganstern 9 years 2 months ago [\#1296270333](#1296270333) - **[Oslo](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4363928-oslo.html "View Oslo's Profile")** - [![Oslo's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4363928-oslo.html "View Oslo's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4363928-oslo.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 270 - Thanks: 19 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4363928) Thanks and good luck to your procedure... for the stretch is it just using pump only or one of those extenders? 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