TOPIC: Considering the elist implant

I know you don't lack intelligence, I was just being lazy with my words because you get sick of repeating the same thing over and over again.
Your just a victim of the Phalloplasty industry.
The only industry on earth where 99% of the options available actually make things worse, and 9 times out of 10 the most heavily marketed and medically endorsed options are actually the worst.
I have a retarded looking penis thanks to a crazy Mongoloid called Dr Kim, check out the MegaFill thread.

jjk wrote: Given thousands of surgeries Elist has performed the negative posts come from maybe 10 guys. I wish people who had positive results would post too but they probably don't want to be bothered since they got ....

Why would anyone in their right mind so passionately defend a doctor who has clearly deformed mens penises? You've only just had the procedure, and are still not even in a position to be a case study, yet you deem it normal behavior to go up against the whole board in defense of Elist?? Sir, or Ma'am, the others here might have given you some legitimacy. I haven't. Even if you've had the surgery, there's no one I know who would go out of the way like this, to this extent, for ANY doctor, without some kind of incentive.

BTW, we have a gay couple who had the elist implant done and they were treated with full respect and support...

Did your attorney eyes see how we treated them?

Jjk
My post was overly harsh. It's just that I have seen so many Elist implants ruin men's lives...Not only physically but psychologically ....
Our forum always welcomes new info and we pride ourselves on our transparency...But Dr. Elist really holds a special dark place on this board.
I wish you the best of luck with your implant. Truly.
But could you do me a favor and read the following thread (posted by The Dane)? He was (is) a member who had the implant and started posting while he still had it.

phalloboards.websitetoolbox.com/post/my-...hlight=dane&trail=30

I look forward to your updates and don't hesitate to private message me if you have any concerns or questions (about the implant...or anything)
Pat

Those Germans at Deutchses zentrum Urology now have have an extensive article on their website warning people the most dangerous procedure is Dr Elists implant, apparently Prof Lemperle has spoken publicly about it.
It absolutely blows my mind how he gets away with it, no normal person would be capable of getting away with it for so long, he has to be a sociopath.

jjk wrote: sgo123456: If the only information that you are getting about the implant is from people who have negatively posted on the internet then I understand that you have a very limited and skewed understanding and thus your "expert opinion" would be thrown out under voire dire by any competent judge. Throwing in some legal lingo to try and convince the doubters that I am indeed an attorney.

now to my Hoddle10: The patent is irrelevant to me. He invented it and did get a patent in 2004 I believe with the original version. Are you denying that Dr. Elist is the only doctor that the FDA has allowed to perform the surgery with his Penuma implant? It is a fact. He has other doctors in his office with him. If any other doctor could do the surgery he would teach them to do it s he could have even more patients as he has a waiting list for people who want the surgery. But he is the only one allowed to do it. I asked the other doctors during my followups if they did it and they explained they can't as of now. Dr. Elist is awaiting approval from the FDA to be permitted to teach other doctors the surgery and license his Penuma implant accordingly. So now I have not glossed over it for you. If someone "butchered" my penis I would sue. If that isn't enough to make someone want to sue then I don't know what is. Your reasoning leaves more than a lot to be desired!!! Forget about suing, How the hell does he still have a medical license if he is inflicting all this carnage? Riddle me that! Again you have no logical answer because the logical answer is that he is NOT butchering people and the vast majority must be pleased with their results. Your penis is not something you take lightly and if a doctor screwed it up you would do anything and everything to the doctor that butchered you....yet you and the rest did NOTHING. Why is that my friend?

Let me explain this you one last time. Elist has a patent for a design of an implant from 2001. HE DOES NOT USE THAT DESIGN. It was nothing more than a marketing ploy. Also that patent has run out. He doesn't FDA approval either. Any Dr can use the same implant.

If he is so busy and is just waiting for FDA approval to train other Dr's, then how come the members of this forum seemed to be able to get into surgery with him at the drop of a hat? Out of interest how long did you have to wait before he could fit you into his hectic schedule?

One final time, I've known several hundred PE surgery victims, including myself, and only 2 have ever done anything. In both circumstances it was a complete waste of time. As I've explained twice already, the only times I've known PE Dr's to lose their medical licenses is because of patient deaths.

This is how I came across this site. I was actually considering his procedure, and thankfully I'm a thorough researcher. Happy lifetime member.

Is this real life? Why are you guys responding to his guy? Ban him.

jjk wrote: The internet would have been flooded with hundreds of negative complaints and I haven't seen that in my research.

Try to post something negative about him on one of the doctor review sites.
Elist will have it removed. Magically, all that's left are positive, glowing reviews, of which I am certain the Elist team had a part in posting the majority.

hoddle where are all the usernames I should read? I have no idea what your problem is with me other than I don't subscribe to your opinions. What is it that I need to do to be dubbed "empathetic enough"? I've already said over and over again that I feel fir the people who didn't get the results they wanted. I've only pointed out that their result is not the only result that can be expected. If that hurts too much to hear I'm sorry. I guess the only thing that would make you happy is if I renounced Elist and demanded that my implant be removed. That's not gonna happen at this point.

Oh...and watch your language in here. It doesn't comport to the phalloboard's standards of mutual respect between posters. See the rules

@jjk; no pix, never happened...

You must be the greasy haired assistant dork who could hardly speak Englith..... LOL..

elist; stop the shill, it will never work here...

*There is a lot of skepticism on this board because we have had a large number of Elist shills (infiltrating our board) who have tried to con men into undergoing this risky procedure in the past. I am sure when you were perusing this website you came across these Elist shills and saw how they were exposed (beyond a shadow of a doubt).
*Members here are skeptical because they can't understand why anybody would undergo such a risky procedure with so much evidence pointing to the danger of the Implant.
*i don't think the issue is the 8 months it takes to get your length back (which is untrue)...The issue is that the implant will eventually have to be removed and it will lead to permanent damage to your penis.

You are saying that a member on here has had the implant for 9 years and messaged you? And he has never changed
his implant once?
I am truly surprised (but do believe you) because out of all the implant recipients (dozens) I have had contact with (dating back to 2009), I don't know one that still has it in.
And these are including recipients I met on the old Elist shill site (My NewSize)....We all encouraged each other to get it...
We were told there was only a 2% chance of it ever having to be removed (due to complications). The doctor did tell us that some men had to have it removed because it was just too big and the partners couldn't take the size. Of course the doctor let us know if it were removed, there would be no complications . I guess he didn't know about the scar tissue and retraction issues at that time.
You also say he used weights (with the implant) to regain his length? I do know that until very recently, any form of stretcher or weights were discouraged by Elist because it might dislodge the implant.

Anybody who has been on PhalloBoards and other (unbiased websites such as Thunders.org) for as long as I have think of Dr. Elist as a liar, manipulator, and sociopath.. It's that simple. Why? Please type in Elist into the search engine and truly read read each thread. It will take you hours but you will be much more informed ..You will see the pain and suffering this man has caused....
And you certainly won't need to ask why people are being so skeptical or unwelcoming of you (at first)..



Again, good luck with the Implant...

Jjk
Have you even done the search for the Elist implant on this board (all the threads)? Have you even bothered reading that link I just posted (from thunders.org)?
And just for other members reading this...Most men are not choosing to have their implant removed because "they are expecting an immediate result". If you read the threads on this board and at thunders.org, you would see their are many complications that go along with inserting a piece of plastic into a dynamic organ...I personally had my implant removed due to "infection".

I get it...You are in the denial phase right now..Not much you can do now. But look at it from our end...We don't want any new member to make a misinformed choice if they happened to stumble across your thread. Your "good so far" status is apparently all well and good for you but you haven't spent countless hours corresponding with Elist victims. These men have suffered so greatly. Again, as I have said many times...if I can prevent even one man from experiencing the same horror I did...It will all be worth it.

Just one question...And can you please answer this. Have you asked the doctor what happens when the implant is removed? What does he say? Does he say that it will go back to the way it was before the operation? Do you think that removing it will be complication- free?
How about emailing Dr. Altar (Beverly Hills) and getting his opinion? He is one of the most respected urologists/plastic surgeons in the United States and has removed many (perhaps dozens) of Dr. Elist's implants. Why don't you ask him his thoughts on the implant and how complication-free removing the implant is?


And just for clarity...The initial loss of length from the surgery is absolutely the least of your worries right now.

Best of luck to you and your implant; and I mean this...I was in the exact same boat as you 7 years ago.

jjk: It's not a question of "yet" - I will NEVER get the procedure you had. Stop trying to convince me.

Messageman: You said if you can prevent even one man from going through what you did - Mission Accomplished bro!

chester: I am beginning to agree with you man, about the legitimacy. Why else start posting in a thread called "Considering the implant"? Start your own thread in the progress report section, amirite?

Jazzy, Mustang, Briceb, Reklaw, hoodie: Thank you guys for having my back.

What a complete scumbag