--- title: "2 weeks post op with Dr. Heller. Lumpy and depressed. - PhalloBoards - Phalloboards" description: "Phew boy. I've been lurking this site for about two years, always wanted to be bigger but never sure of what course to take. I've... - Page 2" url: "https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8417493-2-weeks-post-op-with-dr-heller-lumpy-and-depressed.html?start=15" date: "2026-08-06T22:24:23+00:00" language: "en-GB" --- PhalloBoards - An Online Community to Discuss Penile Girth Enhancement General Forum Doctors Forum Username Password Remember me - [ Forgot your password? ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/reset.html?Itemid=101) - [ Forgot your username? ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/remind.html?Itemid=101) - [ Create an account ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) # TOPIC: 2 weeks post op with Dr. Heller. Lumpy and depressed. ## Re: 2 weeks post op with Dr. Heller. Lumpy and depressed. 9 years 5 months ago [\#1294990968](#1294990968) - **[Lexus27](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2008135-lexus27.html "View Lexus27's Profile")** - [![Lexus27's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2008135-lexus27.html "View Lexus27's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2008135-lexus27.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 370 - Thanks: 0 - - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=2008135) Thank you for sharing.i will not be going to Heller. My appointment is booked with dr.c and wade for April. 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Lumpy and depressed. 9 years 5 months ago [\#1295872645](#1295872645) - **[indiano123](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4089166-indiano123.html "View indiano123's Profile")** - [![indiano123's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4089166-indiano123.html "View indiano123's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4089166-indiano123.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 1049 - Thanks: 2 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4089166) > Hunkydory01 wrote: No we just whatsapp'ed and he said it was much improved. Alright. Im happy dr c was able to fix it. 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Lumpy and depressed. 9 years 5 months ago [\#1294854548](#1294854548) - **[indiano123](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4089166-indiano123.html "View indiano123's Profile")** - [![indiano123's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4089166-indiano123.html "View indiano123's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4089166-indiano123.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 1049 - Thanks: 2 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4089166) > skippythewhale wrote: Phew boy. I've been lurking this site for about two years, always wanted to be bigger but never sure of what course to take. I've tried stretchers and Jelqing, but I'm just too busy juggling everything to keep up with something for more than a month tops. I finally made the decision to have a PMMA procedure, and since I don't have the time to take a vacation to Mexico, I went with Dr. Heller. His Manhattan office is very close to where I work. It's been 2 weeks to the day, and I'm worried and upset with the results. > > Starting in, I am 6.5 BPEL, 5.25 eg midshaft. I want my Girth at 6. > > Dr. Heller was very nice, almost nonchalant about the procedure. He stated that he can inject 5cc of Bellafill for $3500. Explained that it isn't a perfect procedure (very hard to get perfect symmetry, etc.) But there will be permanent gains, and that most irregularities will smooth out after about 2 months post-op. > > To start, Dr. Heller did not mix the syringes in front of me. Not sure if that's an issue, but there it is. He uses needles, not a cannula, so there was some definite bruising and soreness for about a week. The local anesthesia worked, and other than a pinch now and then, and the odd feeling of having stuff injected into your pecker, was painless. After wards, my penis looked very swollen, but good. > > I asked him what I need to do now. He didn't wrap it, didn't suggest a stretcher, or anything. A direct quote about wrapping "I don't believe in all that." His advice was to gently massage out any lumps that begin to form and not "use it for a week." > > So after a drive home, I laid in bed and let it drape between my legs and spent the next day like that as well. Then I went about my business as usual. > > At about 5 days, I noticed a lump on my right side at the circ line, like someone had implanted a piece of macaroni under my skin. I massaged it as best I could, but it didn't go away. Plus I was still swollen and sore from the procedure. At one week I had sex with my girlfriend. She really enjoyed the increase in Girth, so that's a plus. > > Now at 2 weeks, most of the swelling has gone down, and I am very upset with what I am seeing. Flaccid it looks fine, but Erect there are alot of lumps. The lump on my right C scar is bigger, and a lump has formed below it, making a valley between them. A lump on the center top has formed, as well as one one the lower left side. There are slight dips all over my penis, and the PMMA seems to only be on the upper 3/4ths of the shaft. and It looks more like a knurled club than a penis (to me, anyway.) I attached some photos. > > I went back to Dr. Heller today (tried to go earlier, but both he and I are busy) and when he looked at it he told me not to worry with a smile. He said that in a month or so most of the lumpiness will smooth out, and that I should gently massage and lumps I do have. I showed him the photos of my Erection and he still said the same thing. > > So am I being paranoid? Is there anything I should do? I followed the Dr.'s advice and this is my result. Should I continue to follow it and just massage gently and chill the hell out? My Girlfriend doesn't really want to have sex with me at this point, she's freaked out at the lumps. Is that the most he will inject? Honestly i believe you should have Massaged the same day. Thats what dr c tells everyone because stuff like this happened. I still say massage buddy and possibly try dsmo to make lump smaller. Overall it doesnt look too bad. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZ2VuZXJhbC1mb3J1bS9nZW5lcmFsLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLWFyY2hpdmUvODQxNzQ5My0yLXdlZWtzLXBvc3Qtb3Atd2l0aC1kci1oZWxsZXItbHVtcHktYW5kLWRlcHJlc3NlZC5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MTU=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: 2 weeks post op with Dr. Heller. Lumpy and depressed. 9 years 5 months ago [\#1295007923](#1295007923) - **[Reklaw](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4324840-reklaw.html "View Reklaw's Profile")** - [![Reklaw's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4324840-reklaw.html "View Reklaw's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4324840-reklaw.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 1361 - Thanks: 3 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4324840) I use 90% gel applied directly into the skin, it stung at first but I think my skins become desensitised to it because I've been using it over the entire shaft everyday for 4 months straight. I've tried using it with apple cider vinegar but it caused my extreme skin irritation/rash I found it better to use iodine but now I just apply it on its own. After loosing 1.5 Inch in Girth in 18 month the skin on my penis looks and feels like a granny's chin. Prior to having the procedure my skin was fresh elastic and tight like that of a baby. People should bear this in mind when they have excessive amounts and aim to gain 2 Inch, if you ever have it removed, your penis will end up looking like a Chinese Shar Pei like mine does. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZ2VuZXJhbC1mb3J1bS9nZW5lcmFsLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLWFyY2hpdmUvODQxNzQ5My0yLXdlZWtzLXBvc3Qtb3Atd2l0aC1kci1oZWxsZXItbHVtcHktYW5kLWRlcHJlc3NlZC5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MTU=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: 2 weeks post op with Dr. Heller. Lumpy and depressed. 9 years 5 months ago [\#1294988723](#1294988723) - **[indiano123](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4089166-indiano123.html "View indiano123's Profile")** - [![indiano123's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4089166-indiano123.html "View indiano123's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4089166-indiano123.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 1049 - Thanks: 2 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4089166) Have you tried dsmo? If you do go to dr c i suggest asking for a full round of silkon1000 or silkon and PMMA to cover the irregularities. Have you tried pumping and massaging, its sort of possible you pump up and then aggressively massage. Sorry this happened man, but do you think u will ever go back to heller? 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Lumpy and depressed. 9 years 5 months ago [\#1295005108](#1295005108) - **[indiano123](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4089166-indiano123.html "View indiano123's Profile")** - [![indiano123's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4089166-indiano123.html "View indiano123's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4089166-indiano123.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 1049 - Thanks: 2 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4089166) > skippythewhale wrote: > i've been massaging non-stop every day. no dice. it's settled in. I'm not sure where to pick up any DSMO locally, though I live near Manhattan, so it can't be that hard to find if I know where to look. Perhaps online. > Heller is still acting like this is a normal outcome of the procedure. He offered no suggestions for post care. I even asked about wrapping and the like immediately after the procedure, and he told me "he doesn't believe in all that." I paid the man $3500 for a Peyronie's-esk lumpy Dick with less than a .25" increase that my girlfriend doesn't want to touch. I would strongly advise never going to see this man for PMMA. I will certainly not be going back. I've contacted Avanti Derma and sent Wade the latest set of photographs on Friday. waiting for a response. You can buy it online and at a pharmacy, byt the pharmacy may not give it to you. I bought mines at vitacost.com, im really sorry this happened man, but i think your gf should be more supportive bc u need that right now. Im sure she will love the sex regardless of lumps but girls r weird so dont worry to much. If by chance u dont get dsmo u should definitely ask them about silkon1000. I really thought using a pump would help soften nd break up the lumps. Really bummed out heller no good i wanted to go to him. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZ2VuZXJhbC1mb3J1bS9nZW5lcmFsLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLWFyY2hpdmUvODQxNzQ5My0yLXdlZWtzLXBvc3Qtb3Atd2l0aC1kci1oZWxsZXItbHVtcHktYW5kLWRlcHJlc3NlZC5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MTU=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: 2 weeks post op with Dr. Heller. Lumpy and depressed. 9 years 5 months ago [\#1294854589](#1294854589) - **[skippythewhale](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4836797-skippythewhale.html "View skippythewhale's Profile")** - [![skippythewhale's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4836797-skippythewhale.html "View skippythewhale's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4836797-skippythewhale.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 16 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4836797) > indiano123 wrote: Is that the most he will inject? Honestly i believe you should have Massaged the same day. Thats what dr c tells everyone because stuff like this happened. I still say massage buddy and possibly try dsmo to make lump smaller. Overall it doesnt look too bad. He prefers to work in only 5cc amounts. He was willing to do more, but I didn't feel like dropping $7000 on 10ccs of Bellafill. I'm honestly glad I didn't. If this is 5ccs what would have 10 looked like? I'll check out DSMO and will update as I go. Looking back I have to agree with you on the massaging. He really gave no advice in person other than rest it for a week and massage if I see any lumps. I figure listening to the Doctor is a good policy. However, in hindsight, how would I have known there were lumps to massage if it was completely swollen? Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZ2VuZXJhbC1mb3J1bS9nZW5lcmFsLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLWFyY2hpdmUvODQxNzQ5My0yLXdlZWtzLXBvc3Qtb3Atd2l0aC1kci1oZWxsZXItbHVtcHktYW5kLWRlcHJlc3NlZC5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MTU=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: 2 weeks post op with Dr. Heller. Lumpy and depressed. 9 years 5 months ago [\#1295006922](#1295006922) - **[Hunkydory01](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4520710-hunkydory01.html "View Hunkydory01's Profile")** - [![Hunkydory01's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4520710-hunkydory01.html "View Hunkydory01's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4520710-hunkydory01.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 540 - Thanks: 6 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4520710) Even a lot of the mixed gels were too intense for me - they irritated my skin. The other thing to know is that I massaged it into my dick all over the top and that was a mistake - it was way too much. There are a few threads on here on how to apply - mixed with apple cider vinegar I think etc. I never figured out how to use it without irritating my skin but it is doable - [ phalloboards.websitetoolbox.com/post/dms...=dmso&pid=1276883920](https://phalloboards.websitetoolbox.com/post/dmso-question-for-hoddle-hunkchunk-6207911?highlight=dmso&pid=1276883920) Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZ2VuZXJhbC1mb3J1bS9nZW5lcmFsLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLWFyY2hpdmUvODQxNzQ5My0yLXdlZWtzLXBvc3Qtb3Atd2l0aC1kci1oZWxsZXItbHVtcHktYW5kLWRlcHJlc3NlZC5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MTU=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: 2 weeks post op with Dr. Heller. Lumpy and depressed. 9 years 5 months ago [\#1294854865](#1294854865) - **[indiano123](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4089166-indiano123.html "View indiano123's Profile")** - [![indiano123's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4089166-indiano123.html "View indiano123's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4089166-indiano123.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 1049 - Thanks: 2 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4089166) Also sorta seems like a rip off to pay $3500 for just 5cc when dr c charges $3000 for 20cc only difference is the expenses u have to pay with going to mexico. 5cc isnt really enough to fill out everywhere. I just say really aggressively massage and use dsmo. I think it looks fine maybe im crazy but its not bad. Did you see how big the syringe was and did he use multiple syringes or just one big one? Also how much entry poibts did he use? Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZ2VuZXJhbC1mb3J1bS9nZW5lcmFsLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLWFyY2hpdmUvODQxNzQ5My0yLXdlZWtzLXBvc3Qtb3Atd2l0aC1kci1oZWxsZXItbHVtcHktYW5kLWRlcHJlc3NlZC5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MTU=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: 2 weeks post op with Dr. Heller. Lumpy and depressed. 9 years 5 months ago [\#1294854624](#1294854624) - **[Hunkydory01](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4520710-hunkydory01.html "View Hunkydory01's Profile")** - [![Hunkydory01's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4520710-hunkydory01.html "View Hunkydory01's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4520710-hunkydory01.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 540 - Thanks: 6 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4520710) Hey, don't stop massaging, right now it is your best friend. Feel free to use a lot of force pushing down to flatten the big spots that are like macaroni. The thing with Bellafill is that it has a very slow acting carrier so unlike PMMA where the carrier is basically absorbed and the remainder fixed by the 4th day - Bellafill can take a lot longer as the carrier is bovine collagen. I would not get depressed yet. If you read this board guys use all sorts of things from rolling it out with shampoo bottles, massage, do what you can to massage it into place. You may feel like you are starting over the next day but that's OK just keep doing it. Also pull you glans out and then with your free hand use your thumb and push everything up toward the base using a rocking motion - kind of like you are rolling your thumb up your Dick. Gravity will have a way of pulling everything down. Also it rarely ever looks good after 1 round. PMMA and I assume Bellafill, does not absorb evenly, there are high and low spots, entry site nodules etc. Mine all went away with little intervention other than massaging and have smaller follow up rounds to target the areas I didn't like - it all worked out in the end. Heller is known for not mixing or opening the products in front of the patient. Not saying that he is using faux products - I don't he would risk losing his license. It is way to soon to tell what is a real lump at least with PMMA there are so many changes, residual swelling, fluid areas - don't freak but don't think of this as a one shot deal - it rarely is - just get it as good as you can working on the lumps, and with HA they do go away after a month or so in general. They need to absorb water I believe and it softens. 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Lumpy and depressed. 9 years 5 months ago [\#1294859233](#1294859233) - **[sexy\_beast](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4496448-sexy-beast.html "View sexy_beast's Profile")** - [![sexy_beast's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4496448-sexy-beast.html "View sexy_beast's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4496448-sexy-beast.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 250 - Thanks: 14 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4496448) great post! > 10003 wrote: Hey, don't stop massaging, right now it is your best friend. Feel free to use a lot of force pushing down to flatten the big spots that are like macaroni. The thing with Bellafill is that it has a very slow acting carrier so unlike PMMA where the carrier is basically absorbed and the remainder fixed by the 4th day - Bellafill can take a lot longer as the carrier is bovine collagen. > I would not get depressed yet. If you read this board guys use all sorts of things from rolling it out with shampoo bottles, massage, do what you can to massage it into place. You may feel like you are starting over the next day but that's OK just keep doing it. Also pull you glans out and then with your free hand use your thumb and push everything up toward the base using a rocking motion - kind of like you are rolling your thumb up your Dick. Gravity will have a way of pulling everything down. > Also it rarely ever looks good after 1 round. PMMA and I assume Bellafill, does not absorb evenly, there are high and low spots, entry site nodules etc. Mine all went away with little intervention other than massaging and have smaller follow up rounds to target the areas I didn't like - it all worked out in the end. > Heller is known for not mixing or opening the products in front of the patient. Not saying that he is using faux products - I don't he would risk losing his license. > It is way to soon to tell what is a real lump at least with PMMA there are so many changes, residual swelling, fluid areas - don't freak but don't think of this as a one shot deal - it rarely is - just get it as good as you can working on the lumps, and with HA they do go away after a month or so in general. They need to absorb water I believe and it softens. 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Lumpy and depressed. 9 years 5 months ago [\#1295004646](#1295004646) - **[skippythewhale](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4836797-skippythewhale.html "View skippythewhale's Profile")** - [![skippythewhale's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4836797-skippythewhale.html "View skippythewhale's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4836797-skippythewhale.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 16 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4836797) > indiano123 wrote: Have you tried dsmo? If you do go to dr c i suggest asking for a full round of silkon1000 or silkon and PMMA to cover the irregularities. Have you tried pumping and massaging, its sort of possible you pump up and then aggressively massage. Sorry this happened man, but do you think u will ever go back to heller? i've been massaging non-stop every day. no dice. it's settled in. I'm not sure where to pick up any DSMO locally, though I live near Manhattan, so it can't be that hard to find if I know where to look. Perhaps online. Heller is still acting like this is a normal outcome of the procedure. He offered no suggestions for post care. I even asked about wrapping and the like immediately after the procedure, and he told me "he doesn't believe in all that." I paid the man $3500 for a Peyronie's-esk lumpy Dick with less than a .25" increase that my girlfriend doesn't want to touch. I would strongly advise never going to see this man for PMMA. I will certainly not be going back. I've contacted Avanti Derma and sent Wade the latest set of photographs on Friday. waiting for a response. 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Lumpy and depressed. 9 years 5 months ago [\#1295004653](#1295004653) - **[skippythewhale](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4836797-skippythewhale.html "View skippythewhale's Profile")** - [![skippythewhale's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4836797-skippythewhale.html "View skippythewhale's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4836797-skippythewhale.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 16 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4836797) > Lexus27 wrote: Thank you for sharing.i will not be going to Heller. My appointment is booked with dr.c and wade for April. learn from my mistakes, brother. 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Lumpy and depressed. 9 years 5 months ago [\#1295056621](#1295056621) - **[hoddle10](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1704891-hoddle10.html "View hoddle10's Profile")** - [![hoddle10's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1704891-hoddle10.html "View hoddle10's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1704891-hoddle10.html) - Moderator - ![Moderator](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rankmod.gif) - Posts: 3120 - Thanks: 50 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1704891) I wouldn't worry too much about the lumps. To me it looks like a relatively easy fix. 1 round of 10% (just 10cc) and then a round of S1000. I think the lumps might be too big to hide with S1000 alone, but a round of 10% should be able to smooth things out enough, for you to be able to go back and get any uneven spots fixed with S1000. 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