--- title: "Best option right now?? New, well-informed, kinda confused, but too depressed to accept my dick - PhalloBoards - Phalloboards" description: "Hi people, I'm a 22 year old male. My penis is about 6 inch long and 4,7 inch around. I have some scarring which gave my penis a... - Page 3" url: "https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8316627-best-option-right-now-new-well-informed-kinda-confused-but-too-depressed-to-accept-my-dick.html?start=30" date: "2026-08-06T10:48:39+00:00" language: "en-GB" --- PhalloBoards - An Online Community to Discuss Penile Girth Enhancement General Forum Doctors Forum Username Password Remember me - [ Forgot your password? ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/reset.html?Itemid=101) - [ Forgot your username? ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/remind.html?Itemid=101) - [ Create an account ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) # TOPIC: Best option right now?? New, well-informed, kinda confused, but too depressed to accept my dick ## Re: Best option right now?? New, well-informed, kinda confused, but too depressed to accept my dick 9 years 8 months ago [\#1294024099](#1294024099) - **[buffdawg](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4560417-buffdawg.html "View buffdawg's Profile")** - [![buffdawg's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4560417-buffdawg.html "View buffdawg's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4560417-buffdawg.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 43 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4560417) > hoddle10 wrote: > > > I did notice a difference in Teosyal and Voluma. I can't remember the exact type of Teosyal I used, but I'm sure Hunkydory will remember, so I can ask him. I'd say Teosyal felt more like a graft, perhaps comparable to a mouse mat. It had more rigidity than Voluma. The downside was that it was harder to inject. Voluma came out of the canula much easier. Though I'm sure a wider canula could be used, but then maybe a stitch would be needed, but I'm not sure. Looks like Teosyal and Voluma Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZ2VuZXJhbC1mb3J1bS9nZW5lcmFsLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLWFyY2hpdmUvODMxNjYyNy1iZXN0LW9wdGlvbi1yaWdodC1ub3ctbmV3LXdlbGwtaW5mb3JtZWQta2luZGEtY29uZnVzZWQtYnV0LXRvby1kZXByZXNzZWQtdG8tYWNjZXB0LW15LWRpY2suaHRtbD9tYXJrZG93bj0xJnN0YXJ0PTMw) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Best option right now?? New, well-informed, kinda confused, but too depressed to accept my dick 9 years 8 months ago [\#1294025646](#1294025646) - **[jogift](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4364259-jogift.html "View jogift's Profile")** - [![jogift's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4364259-jogift.html "View jogift's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4364259-jogift.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 341 - Thanks: 4 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4364259) O K. Popopo, I "believe" that you should try to get some length back. Even if scarred, gentle pulling with an els40 or phallosan over a long period (say one year) could help. But it must be consistently for several hours a day. You do not need surgery. So,for Girth (related), you must do in-depth and extensive research here on this forum. You can have some marbles stitched unto your Dick to pleasurably stimulate your partner (don't laugh! Go to thread "Beading"), find out some about temporary fillers - techniques, physical and psychological effects, locations, costs etc. at example "Dr Mohammed Mirhza ...", "Dr Kim in Korea ..." For permanent fillers, down to earth and realistic information can be obtained from the Patient Support Category. Threads by smalljay, restoration, hoddle10 etc. Takes some time and patience, keeping an open but yet imaginative mind. Learn to sieve out the irrelevants, don't be thin-skinned so that you can enjoy some humour along the way and the best of luck ... 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New, well-informed, kinda confused, but too depressed to accept my dick 9 years 8 months ago [\#1294021039](#1294021039) - **[ll](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4753007-ll.html "View ll's Profile")** - [![ll's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4753007-ll.html "View ll's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4753007-ll.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 132 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4753007) > hoddle10 wrote: In the days post procedure I was about 6.25" Girth and my initial observation or thought, was how the hell am I supposed to get this into a girl? Honestly, I'm not lying when I say I just couldn't believe guys want to be that big as it seemed absurdly unpractical to me. A couple of days after that the swelling went away and it settled at about 5.75" (I swell a lot for some reason, even after just 4cc of PMMA). It was once the swelling went that I started having doubts about the suitability of HA. For the first time I could really feel the actual material and as much as I wanted to like it, it just didn't feel right. It was okay until I got really hard and then the contrast between my real penis and the HA became apparent to the point I knew I'd feel uncomfortable about a girl touching it. I also tried a condom on and when I rolled it down, it really showed how soft the HA was. What was your initial Erect Girth before the HA, and was 5.75 where it stayed until you had it removed? A 4.5" Girth gaining an Inch is different from someone at 5" gaining a 1/2" in depth of the filler between the skin and the CC. This may have a bigger impact on the degree of firmness noticable to the touch? ~LL Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZ2VuZXJhbC1mb3J1bS9nZW5lcmFsLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLWFyY2hpdmUvODMxNjYyNy1iZXN0LW9wdGlvbi1yaWdodC1ub3ctbmV3LXdlbGwtaW5mb3JtZWQta2luZGEtY29uZnVzZWQtYnV0LXRvby1kZXByZXNzZWQtdG8tYWNjZXB0LW15LWRpY2suaHRtbD9tYXJrZG93bj0xJnN0YXJ0PTMw) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Best option right now?? New, well-informed, kinda confused, but too depressed to accept my dick 9 years 8 months ago [\#1294035634](#1294035634) - **[Restoration](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2984876-restoration.html "View Restoration's Profile")** - [![Restoration's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2984876-restoration.html "View Restoration's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2984876-restoration.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 1185 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=2984876) jogift, I am not familiar with those things... do you have any more info / links? One problem is that anything larger than a needle hole will risk turning into an open wound. So, I can't really have any kind of incision. It won't close. Even the needle will have to be put in very strategically where there is less PMMA. I can't figure out how to do it yet. I am disappointed to learn that HA was so unsuccessful in Hoddle's case, but it was already mentioned that some guys have perfect HA results and some - it's just not something that feels normal. Who were the guys who said it moved around on them? You referred to something about it being mobile, but I don't remember reading that in the HA threads. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZ2VuZXJhbC1mb3J1bS9nZW5lcmFsLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLWFyY2hpdmUvODMxNjYyNy1iZXN0LW9wdGlvbi1yaWdodC1ub3ctbmV3LXdlbGwtaW5mb3JtZWQta2luZGEtY29uZnVzZWQtYnV0LXRvby1kZXByZXNzZWQtdG8tYWNjZXB0LW15LWRpY2suaHRtbD9tYXJrZG93bj0xJnN0YXJ0PTMw) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Best option right now?? New, well-informed, kinda confused, but too depressed to accept my dick 9 years 8 months ago [\#1294036420](#1294036420) - **[hoddle10](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1704891-hoddle10.html "View hoddle10's Profile")** - [![hoddle10's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1704891-hoddle10.html "View hoddle10's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1704891-hoddle10.html) - Moderator - ![Moderator](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rankmod.gif) - Posts: 3120 - Thanks: 50 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1704891) > Restoration wrote: jogift, I am not familiar with those things... do you have any more info / links? One problem is that anything larger than a needle hole will risk turning into an open wound. So, I can't really have any kind of incision. It won't close. Even the needle will have to be put in very strategically where there is less PMMA. I can't figure out how to do it yet. > > I am disappointed to learn that HA was so unsuccessful in Hoddle's case, but it was already mentioned that some guys have perfect HA results and some - it's just not something that feels normal. Who were the guys who said it moved around on them? You referred to something about it being mobile, but I don't remember reading that in the HA threads. It wasn't, it just wasn't quite right for me. It wasn't mobile, it just didn't have the desired firmness in my penis. But as I've mentioned previously neither did fat, when others say theirs feels totally natural. I think there are enough progress reports to tell us that you can't judge any procedure by one persons experience, as even with the variables pretty much the same, someone else can have a very different result or different opinion on their result. I can easily see why people could have very good results with HA based on my experience. I had 9cc btw. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZ2VuZXJhbC1mb3J1bS9nZW5lcmFsLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLWFyY2hpdmUvODMxNjYyNy1iZXN0LW9wdGlvbi1yaWdodC1ub3ctbmV3LXdlbGwtaW5mb3JtZWQta2luZGEtY29uZnVzZWQtYnV0LXRvby1kZXByZXNzZWQtdG8tYWNjZXB0LW15LWRpY2suaHRtbD9tYXJrZG93bj0xJnN0YXJ0PTMw) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Best option right now?? New, well-informed, kinda confused, but too depressed to accept my dick 9 years 8 months ago [\#1294026185](#1294026185) - **[jogift](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4364259-jogift.html "View jogift's Profile")** - [![jogift's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4364259-jogift.html "View jogift's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4364259-jogift.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 341 - Thanks: 4 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4364259) Do you agree about the marbles? It's good for him to read all these posts, however negative they may be. I shouldn't say it openly but sometimes it's good to scare the hell out of them so that they just leave themselves as they are! If not, well, they've been warned ... 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New, well-informed, kinda confused, but too depressed to accept my dick 9 years 8 months ago [\#1294018762](#1294018762) - **[Reklaw](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4324840-reklaw.html "View Reklaw's Profile")** - [![Reklaw's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4324840-reklaw.html "View Reklaw's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4324840-reklaw.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 1361 - Thanks: 3 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4324840) "Franklin Keuhhas seems caring" lol That's the funniest thing I've heard all day Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZ2VuZXJhbC1mb3J1bS9nZW5lcmFsLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLWFyY2hpdmUvODMxNjYyNy1iZXN0LW9wdGlvbi1yaWdodC1ub3ctbmV3LXdlbGwtaW5mb3JtZWQta2luZGEtY29uZnVzZWQtYnV0LXRvby1kZXByZXNzZWQtdG8tYWNjZXB0LW15LWRpY2suaHRtbD9tYXJrZG93bj0xJnN0YXJ0PTMw) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Best option right now?? New, well-informed, kinda confused, but too depressed to accept my dick 9 years 8 months ago [\#1294033354](#1294033354) - **[jogift](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4364259-jogift.html "View jogift's Profile")** - [![jogift's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4364259-jogift.html "View jogift's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4364259-jogift.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 341 - Thanks: 4 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4364259) LL, please, what's irrelevant? Both "beading" and "huge world" encompass this forum. It is related to PE, is used by members (I intend to) and it's possible popopo might be interested. I mean no offence (just that I am undiplomatic) but twice in this thread alone you have shown lack of focus or inability to "listen." Practice "listening" more to others and you'll be able to always pick "the meat from the bones" and stay within context. Popopo, are you still there? We're hearing nothing more from you ... Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZ2VuZXJhbC1mb3J1bS9nZW5lcmFsLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLWFyY2hpdmUvODMxNjYyNy1iZXN0LW9wdGlvbi1yaWdodC1ub3ctbmV3LXdlbGwtaW5mb3JtZWQta2luZGEtY29uZnVzZWQtYnV0LXRvby1kZXByZXNzZWQtdG8tYWNjZXB0LW15LWRpY2suaHRtbD9tYXJrZG93bj0xJnN0YXJ0PTMw) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Best option right now?? New, well-informed, kinda confused, but too depressed to accept my dick 9 years 8 months ago [\#1294024404](#1294024404) - **[ll](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4753007-ll.html "View ll's Profile")** - [![ll's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4753007-ll.html "View ll's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4753007-ll.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 132 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4753007) > buffdawg wrote: > > Looks like Teosyal and Voluma Ah thanks, now I recall reading that last night, I must be still asleep because I completely forgot. ~LL Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZ2VuZXJhbC1mb3J1bS9nZW5lcmFsLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLWFyY2hpdmUvODMxNjYyNy1iZXN0LW9wdGlvbi1yaWdodC1ub3ctbmV3LXdlbGwtaW5mb3JtZWQta2luZGEtY29uZnVzZWQtYnV0LXRvby1kZXByZXNzZWQtdG8tYWNjZXB0LW15LWRpY2suaHRtbD9tYXJrZG93bj0xJnN0YXJ0PTMw) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Best option right now?? New, well-informed, kinda confused, but too depressed to accept my dick 9 years 8 months ago [\#1294041557](#1294041557) - **[jogift](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4364259-jogift.html "View jogift's Profile")** - [![jogift's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4364259-jogift.html "View jogift's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4364259-jogift.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 341 - Thanks: 4 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4364259) Read the thread "Grow your own penis." The last post by Herbert West has a link ... 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New, well-informed, kinda confused, but too depressed to accept my dick 9 years 8 months ago [\#1294027481](#1294027481) - **[ll](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4753007-ll.html "View ll's Profile")** - [![ll's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4753007-ll.html "View ll's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4753007-ll.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 132 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4753007) > jogift wrote: It's a huge world out there ... Yeah, it is, but I'll pass on this one. As you said earlier "sieve out the irrelevants." ~LL Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZ2VuZXJhbC1mb3J1bS9nZW5lcmFsLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLWFyY2hpdmUvODMxNjYyNy1iZXN0LW9wdGlvbi1yaWdodC1ub3ctbmV3LXdlbGwtaW5mb3JtZWQta2luZGEtY29uZnVzZWQtYnV0LXRvby1kZXByZXNzZWQtdG8tYWNjZXB0LW15LWRpY2suaHRtbD9tYXJrZG93bj0xJnN0YXJ0PTMw) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Best option right now?? New, well-informed, kinda confused, but too depressed to accept my dick 9 years 8 months ago [\#1294020829](#1294020829) - **[hoddle10](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1704891-hoddle10.html "View hoddle10's Profile")** - [![hoddle10's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1704891-hoddle10.html "View hoddle10's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1704891-hoddle10.html) - Moderator - ![Moderator](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rankmod.gif) - Posts: 3120 - Thanks: 50 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1704891) > aleksk wrote: Thanks for sharing. I know you said you won't answer any questions, but I assume that refers to your recent PMMA experience as you're waiting to see how it will play out. > > Could you please answer a question about your dissatisfaction with Voluma/Teosyal as many of us are considering it and most of us don't personally know anyone who had it to have a conversation with them? > > - It felt wrong in what way? Was it too soft when Erect? Did you try to have sex with it? Was it an obstacle/issue during sex/penetration? Was it prone to movement? Did you notice any difference between Voluma and Teosyal in this respect or any other? > > Sure you would expect PMMA to integrate better with the underlying tissue than HA fillers. This is why I spent so much time researching Ellanse. This is why I've said so many times Voluma is stupid in the sense that it just fills and does nothing else. This is why almost all my posts are meant to invite people to research, explore and share thoughts and experiences about other fillers. > > I've also suggested your approach before - have very small quantities of a filler like Ellanse at a time until you reach a modest goal. Give it time to do its job, integrate and create new tissue before you go for more. > > You could say it is a sensible approach for any filler but especially bio stimulating fillers - not so much the stupid HA gamma of fillers where what you see is what you get. Even fat - how likely it is that 5 cc of fat at a time would result in the complications we see from fat injections? But the stupid 'what you see is what you get' characteristic of HA fillers is also a big advantage of theirs, in terms of you don't have to live a life where suddenly the filler decides to do something nasty and misshape your penis or even give you serious complications. The guy I referred to above says his injector did more than fine - his penis looked good for few weeks and he was very happy. Then the shit happened and now I feel sorry for him because he feels he is screwed for life. He doesn't have a recourse. He had a great looking Dick with a decent size and decided PMMA is a marvelous idea based on reading this forum exclusively. Obviously he only did selective reading. And now he'll have to live with the contour irregularities for the rest of his life and have every new partner question his shape/size every single time. I'd rather stay small than live that scenario for the rest of my life. > > So, please share if you could your experience with HA fillers and what your dissatisfaction stemmed from. > > The 'what is better - HA or PMMA' debate could not be objectively developed on this forum because we don't have a critical mass (or any mass for that matter) of men who have had HA. Hence, I ask you to please share more of your experience with HA. I'm pretty sure you were one of the people I told about my HA experience at the time I had it! I did notice a difference in Teosyal and Voluma. I can't remember the exact type of Teosyal I used, but I'm sure Hunkydory will remember, so I can ask him. I'd say Teosyal felt more like a graft, perhaps comparable to a mouse mat. It had more rigidity than Voluma. The downside was that it was harder to inject. Voluma came out of the canula much easier. Though I'm sure a wider canula could be used, but then maybe a stitch would be needed, but I'm not sure. In the days post procedure I was about 6.25" Girth and my initial observation or thought, was how the hell am I supposed to get this into a girl? Honestly, I'm not lying when I say I just couldn't believe guys want to be that big as it seemed absurdly unpractical to me. A couple of days after that the swelling went away and it settled at about 5.75" (I swell a lot for some reason, even after just 4cc of PMMA). It was once the swelling went that I started having doubts about the suitability of HA. For the first time I could really feel the actual material and as much as I wanted to like it, it just didn't feel right. It was okay until I got really hard and then the contrast between my real penis and the HA became apparent to the point I knew I'd feel uncomfortable about a girl touching it. I also tried a condom on and when I rolled it down, it really showed how soft the HA was. I did think that the problem could have been that I had too much, so I started again and this time just went up by 0.4". I think it was slightly better, but again it still just didn't have the rigidity. I think part of the problem is because I have visible scars from other procedures I don't want anything in my penis that may cause sexual partners to think it's not natural. So maybe I'm harder to please than others who have had HA are. So far I'd say PMMA feels much better. I don't want to say much about my approach as I'm super cautious and don't want to tempt fate. But at the moment, my current thinking is that if you approach it a bit at time, you are unlikely to have aesthetic issues. I really hate saying this as I don't want it to come back to bite me on the ass, but I can't see someone running into the issues the guy you mentioned has, if one takes a similarly cautious approach. The trouble is, I can't see many being prepared to do so, maybe only those who have been scarred in the past. 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New, well-informed, kinda confused, but too depressed to accept my dick 9 years 8 months ago [\#1294040034](#1294040034) - **[Todd1893](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4087257-todd1893.html "View Todd1893's Profile")** - [![Todd1893's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4087257-todd1893.html "View Todd1893's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4087257-todd1893.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 29 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4087257) For anyone looking for that graph/chart that 10003 mentioned it is in the thread "10% vs 30%" God only knows how long it took me to find it on multiple occasions . Lots of members have posted progress reports since then but it is a pretty good baseline. Also worth mentioning, I believe all the info on the chart was the members 1st round only, any more gains reported on the individuals progress reports would be from further rounds. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZ2VuZXJhbC1mb3J1bS9nZW5lcmFsLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLWFyY2hpdmUvODMxNjYyNy1iZXN0LW9wdGlvbi1yaWdodC1ub3ctbmV3LXdlbGwtaW5mb3JtZWQta2luZGEtY29uZnVzZWQtYnV0LXRvby1kZXByZXNzZWQtdG8tYWNjZXB0LW15LWRpY2suaHRtbD9tYXJrZG93bj0xJnN0YXJ0PTMw) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Best option right now?? New, well-informed, kinda confused, but too depressed to accept my dick 9 years 8 months ago [\#1294021106](#1294021106) - **[hoddle10](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1704891-hoddle10.html "View hoddle10's Profile")** - [![hoddle10's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1704891-hoddle10.html "View hoddle10's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1704891-hoddle10.html) - Moderator - ![Moderator](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rankmod.gif) - Posts: 3120 - Thanks: 50 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1704891) > ll wrote: What was your initial Erect Girth before the HA, and was 5.75 where it stayed until you had it removed? A 4.5" Girth gaining an Inch is different from someone at 5" gaining a 1/2" in depth of the filler between the skin and the CC. This may have a bigger impact on the degree of firmness noticable to the touch? > > ~LL I varied from 5" to 4.75". So I gained between an 0.75" and an Inch. It stayed at 5.75" for maybe a month, I can't remember exactly and then I dissolved it. But I had another go with just a 0.4" gain and it still wasn't for me. Something else i noted that made me realize it wasn't for me was because it was temporary, it didn't feel like I could relax about my penis size issues. I kept measuring in case it was dissolving and it was also on my mind what I'd do if I got into a relationship and would I be able afford to maintain it etc. You'll be bruised and swollen for a week or two, so you have to factor in having that once a year, so if you are in a relationship, you might have to come clean. Personally I don't think I could do that, as this insecurity is a really big deal to me. Also the process can ware you down. I just want it all over and done with and can't face trying to maintain something. I want to move on in life and not think about PE anymore. I look forward to a time when I don't have to log onto PB's several times per day. I know Hunkydory went through a similar thought process, hence he deleted his account (though he's since come back!) Again it's horses for courses. Guys that aren't that insecure about their size etc wont need to worry about it, but those of us who have real size hang ups, might find a temp solution doesn't totally alleviate their anxiety. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZ2VuZXJhbC1mb3J1bS9nZW5lcmFsLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLWFyY2hpdmUvODMxNjYyNy1iZXN0LW9wdGlvbi1yaWdodC1ub3ctbmV3LXdlbGwtaW5mb3JtZWQta2luZGEtY29uZnVzZWQtYnV0LXRvby1kZXByZXNzZWQtdG8tYWNjZXB0LW15LWRpY2suaHRtbD9tYXJrZG93bj0xJnN0YXJ0PTMw) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Best option right now?? New, well-informed, kinda confused, but too depressed to accept my dick 9 years 8 months ago [\#1294025204](#1294025204) - **[ll](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4753007-ll.html "View ll's Profile")** - [![ll's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4753007-ll.html "View ll's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4753007-ll.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 132 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4753007) > jogift wrote: LL, why are you taking my post personal? A problem here is that researchers just skim through the posts, not reading deeply and between the lines, then even forgetting what they read in the very next post! A newcomer needs help? Refer him, guide him, give him some summaries etc. Right now, we've even derailed the guy's thread! My last post is a summary of the many bullshit that can be found here due to un-scientific researching and posting randomly. We all know it's true that they can all be found on this board. But are we really helping each other in this way? More importantly, are we helping an helpless (maybe hopelessly lost) newcomer this way? I joined almost a year ago but within a few months I was 100 times more knowledgeable than before I came on. Alas, some of the great contibuting members are no more! Let's come back to popopo's thread. In what direction are we taking it now? What can we answer to him? Did we understand what he's asking? Can we give him knowledgeable help? Can we start from here, please? Cheers ... I have no clue what you're going on about, and I don't take any of this personally. If there is any derailing going on I certainly don't feel that I'm part of it. Sorry, but I really don't get your last two posts, but if you're 100 times knowledgeable now I would certainly like to hear a concise, direct summary of your current thinking on the best course of action. That might be a good way to get the thread back on track. Cheers, LL Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZ2VuZXJhbC1mb3J1bS9nZW5lcmFsLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLWFyY2hpdmUvODMxNjYyNy1iZXN0LW9wdGlvbi1yaWdodC1ub3ctbmV3LXdlbGwtaW5mb3JtZWQta2luZGEtY29uZnVzZWQtYnV0LXRvby1kZXByZXNzZWQtdG8tYWNjZXB0LW15LWRpY2suaHRtbD9tYXJrZG93bj0xJnN0YXJ0PTMw) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. 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