--- title: "HA injectable Phalloplasty - for safety - PhalloBoards - Phalloboards" description: "Skeptical One and members, I am a doctor providing injectable penis augmentation with HA in Australia. So remember to take... - Page 31" url: "https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8050915-ha-injectable-phalloplasty-for-safety.html?start=450" date: "2026-08-07T23:15:27+00:00" language: "en-GB" --- PhalloBoards - An Online Community to Discuss Penile Girth Enhancement General Forum Doctors Forum Username Password Remember me - [ Forgot your password? ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/reset.html?Itemid=101) - [ Forgot your username? ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/remind.html?Itemid=101) - [ Create an account ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) # TOPIC: HA injectable Phalloplasty - for safety ## Re: HA injectable Phalloplasty - for safety 8 years 9 months ago [\#1301740453](#1301740453) - **[Dr\_Oates](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4460953-dr-oates.html "View Dr_Oates's Profile")** - [![Dr_Oates's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar4460953.jpg?1569480001)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4460953-dr-oates.html "View Dr_Oates's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4460953-dr-oates.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 688 - Thanks: 51 - - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4460953) Hi - yes it is Ellanse. In Australia we are not allowed to use product names.... There have been quite a few discussions here on Ellanse. Search Ellanse, there are 2 threads devoted to it, at least 1 was one of my patients. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZ2VuZXJhbC1mb3J1bS9nZW5lcmFsLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLWFyY2hpdmUvODA1MDkxNS1oYS1pbmplY3RhYmxlLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1mb3Itc2FmZXR5Lmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MSZzdGFydD00NTA=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: HA injectable Phalloplasty - for safety 8 years 9 months ago [\#1301745028](#1301745028) - **[408clevo](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4812238-408clevo.html "View 408clevo's Profile")** - [![408clevo's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4812238-408clevo.html "View 408clevo's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4812238-408clevo.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 7 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4812238) > Dr Oates wrote: Hi - yes it is Ellanse. In Australia we are not allowed to use product names.... There have been quite a few discussions here on Ellanse. Search Ellanse, there are 2 threads devoted to it, at least 1 was one of my patients. Ok thanks. I've been waiting for this so will be making an appointment soon. 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Aptly named ![:-)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/emoticons/9.png ":-)") Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZ2VuZXJhbC1mb3J1bS9nZW5lcmFsLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLWFyY2hpdmUvODA1MDkxNS1oYS1pbmplY3RhYmxlLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1mb3Itc2FmZXR5Lmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MSZzdGFydD00NTA=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: HA injectable Phalloplasty - for safety 8 years 3 months ago [\#1304067857](#1304067857) - **[HolidayJase](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/5867311-holidayjase.html "View HolidayJase's Profile")** - [![HolidayJase's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/5867311-holidayjase.html "View HolidayJase's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/5867311-holidayjase.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 9 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=5867311) Hi Dr Oates Which Ellanse do you use L (3 year) or E (Extended 4 year). Does it make a difference to the granuloma formation rate Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZ2VuZXJhbC1mb3J1bS9nZW5lcmFsLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLWFyY2hpdmUvODA1MDkxNS1oYS1pbmplY3RhYmxlLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1mb3Itc2FmZXR5Lmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MSZzdGFydD00NTA=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: HA injectable Phalloplasty - for safety 8 years 2 months ago [\#1304152782](#1304152782) - **[jb560](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/5854549-jb560.html "View jb560's Profile")** - [![jb560's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/5854549-jb560.html "View jb560's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/5854549-jb560.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 35 - Thanks: 3 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=5854549) This interest me greatly Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZ2VuZXJhbC1mb3J1bS9nZW5lcmFsLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLWFyY2hpdmUvODA1MDkxNS1oYS1pbmplY3RhYmxlLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1mb3Itc2FmZXR5Lmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MSZzdGFydD00NTA=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: HA injectable Phalloplasty - for safety 8 years 2 months ago [\#1304208918](#1304208918) - **[Dr\_Oates](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4460953-dr-oates.html "View Dr_Oates's Profile")** - [![Dr_Oates's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar4460953.jpg?1569480001)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4460953-dr-oates.html "View Dr_Oates's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4460953-dr-oates.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 688 - Thanks: 51 - - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4460953) > HolidayJase wrote: Hi Dr Oates > > Which Ellanse do you use > > L (3 year) > or E (Extended 4 year). > > Does it make a difference to the granuloma formation rate Typically the '3' yr version. Although how long the results last we are going to have to wait to see. I recently had a guy return 18 mths after his last (of 2) sessions of HA. He went from 9.5 cmto 14.5cm Flaccid (he did have 25cc Voluma). it is still 14.25 cm so has retained about 90% of the volume. 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Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZ2VuZXJhbC1mb3J1bS9nZW5lcmFsLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLWFyY2hpdmUvODA1MDkxNS1oYS1pbmplY3RhYmxlLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1mb3Itc2FmZXR5Lmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MSZzdGFydD00NTA=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: HA injectable Phalloplasty - for safety 7 years 9 months ago [\#1306024274](#1306024274) - **[Gg82](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/3985692-gg82.html "View Gg82's Profile")** - [![Gg82's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/3985692-gg82.html "View Gg82's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/3985692-gg82.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 232 - Thanks: 16 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=3985692) Hi Dr.Oates, There is a number of us here who are uncircumcised and have concerns about both the aesthetically and functional aspect of the procedure. There are also direct reports of uncircumcised men who have dissolved their HA because they report they couldn't have penetrative sex. What is your experience with this? How often do you see unsatisfactory results in uncut men? Thanks Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZ2VuZXJhbC1mb3J1bS9nZW5lcmFsLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLWFyY2hpdmUvODA1MDkxNS1oYS1pbmplY3RhYmxlLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1mb3Itc2FmZXR5Lmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MSZzdGFydD00NTA=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: HA injectable Phalloplasty - for safety 7 years 8 months ago [\#1306088459](#1306088459) - **[BigManX](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4655380-bigmanx.html "View BigManX's Profile")** - [![BigManX's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4655380-bigmanx.html "View BigManX's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4655380-bigmanx.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 54 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4655380) Hi Dr oats if you have had Voluma when that was all available can tops up be done with a longer lasting product? 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I think Subtle was the 4 yr product. 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Yep Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZ2VuZXJhbC1mb3J1bS9nZW5lcmFsLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLWFyY2hpdmUvODA1MDkxNS1oYS1pbmplY3RhYmxlLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1mb3Itc2FmZXR5Lmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MSZzdGFydD00NTA=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: HA injectable Phalloplasty - for safety 7 years 8 months ago [\#1306108255](#1306108255) - **[Dr\_Oates](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4460953-dr-oates.html "View Dr_Oates's Profile")** - [![Dr_Oates's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar4460953.jpg?1569480001)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4460953-dr-oates.html "View Dr_Oates's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4460953-dr-oates.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 688 - Thanks: 51 - - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4460953) > Gg82 wrote: Hi Dr.Oates, > There is a number of us here who are uncircumcised and have concerns about both the aesthetically and functional aspect of the procedure. There are also direct reports of uncircumcised men who have dissolved their HA because they report they couldn't have penetrative sex. > What is your experience with this? > How often do you see unsatisfactory results in uncut men? > > Thanks Good Questions, Most guys here in Australia are now uncut. It does add some difficulties technically to get the results. It has not been much of an issue - but I am seeing a guy tomorrow, who wants me to add more, who felt there was some issue with mobility. I would say 10% of uncut guys need some sort of minor adjustment to get things symmetrical. 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I have an appointment in the sydney clinic next week Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZ2VuZXJhbC1mb3J1bS9nZW5lcmFsLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLWFyY2hpdmUvODA1MDkxNS1oYS1pbmplY3RhYmxlLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1mb3Itc2FmZXR5Lmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MSZzdGFydD00NTA=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: HA injectable Phalloplasty - for safety 7 years 8 months ago [\#1306129146](#1306129146) - **[think](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/5799362-think.html "View think's Profile")** - [![think's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar5799362.png?1575050907)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/5799362-think.html "View think's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/5799362-think.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 338 - Thanks: 13 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=5799362) > Dr Oates wrote: > I think Subtle was the 4 yr product. According to Subtle's post he believes he had the 3 year version. There should not be any difference, except for the time that the PCL lasts. @Dr Oates mentioned previously that there was some indication that the half life of the generated collagen was 15 years, can you specify the source of that info? I assume it was from a non-public medical journal because I was unable to find any mention of that. 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