TOPIC: Dermal Fat Graft removal?

wow good luck!

Since it has been six - seven? months since I had my fat grafts removed, I thought I would add an updated photo for reference, and not just leave it with the mangled images.
I still have hyper-pigmentation which usually takes me about a year to get rid of (this is my 3rd go round with it). I read somewhere that it is caused by trauma from blood collecting under the skin and that it takes 9 months to get rid of generally. The scar looks extra noticeable as the rest of my Dick is so dark, but doesn't really bother me given what it could have been. Also the skin is a little wrinkled but I can live with that given how much they took out it I was expecting worse. I feel like I can use this and not have to explain about the penis reduction and keep my history to myself I'll update at my year anniversary too.

I am so glad you are coming through this and getting better! It looks like it was quite and ordeal. Thanks for sharing with us.

And your last statement "don't do any of this lightly" is so true. I think that too often we look at the opportunity and see only the good sides and sort of block out the stuff we don't want to see or think about.

Thank you! I will look into Gary Alter and DMSO which I don't know anything about.
From the research I have done Fat Necrosis is pretty common, usually in women who have had fat graft transfers after breast reconstruction. It comes from a bad bloodd supply to the graft which kills the fat cells causing the body to surround the cells which leads the the hardening. The graft was 2" thick so it it really hard and thick. From what I read there is not a medical consequence to keeping it in, other than being demoralizing.

I can't imagine how something hard would interact with PMMA even if it covered the area as it seems the graft would breakup the collagen after a while as it shifted - but I don't know what I am speaking about at this point when it comes to PMMA and a hardened graft.

Dan.

I feel the same as Hoddle10. I had Dermal Grafts (and previous FFT) removed completely by Dr Elist in 2008. The grafts were placed in 1997. They were shrunken reabsorbing and starting to feel like wads under the skin. Four months later I got the Elist implant.
I had consulted with Dr Alter at the time I was contemplating Removal. I decided my best option was to go with Elist (wrong choice). I have had PMMA about a year now and I am still trying to get the surface texture and wrinkles lessened, maybe with another surgery or a PMMA touch up.
I would not have had them removed if I knew the resulting skin would look so bad.

You might want to consult with Dr C too and ask him what he could do with PMMA. And what the thinks of doing it over the grafts.

Have you tried pumping? I'd be very interested to see if you could make progress with daily Cialis, pentox, ADS, pumping and DMSO. I really think a good regime where your penis gets lots of blood flow and the graft gets manipulated could be beneficial. I'd certainly do that before considering PMMA or surgery.


I don't get why US Dr's are appalled at you mentioning PMMA. I personally think you should avoid it if possible, but their logic seems totally warped to me. If you read Darkstaffs thread he had PMMA removed via degloving. How on earth is that so terrible in comparison to removing a graft via either a base incision or degloving? If you think about it, US Drs are telling you to avoid it in case something goes wrong and the only alternative is surgical Removal. Instead you should go to them and have your graft surgically removed! It just makes no sense. How did these guys get through med school! I fell for the same bullshit, hence it gets me angry to hear Dr's saying the same to you. I was told not to consider a permanent filler (my Dr hadn't heard of PMMA) and to have the fat cut out. As a result I suffered Necrosis and still have problems with skin adhesions. These are the two main worries involved with removing PMMA! It is literally warped logic in my opinion.

I got 70%/30% DMSO and aloe. I rubbed it on to my penis - I can't say I felt anything -( I was expecting a Bengay effect). Is there any sort of program with this or should I just apply daily?
Thanks, Dan.

My scar for that is minimal to almost invisible. I have never had anyone notice it, but there seem to be multiple techniques. It is about a 2 Inch horizontal line and under your pubes. It would only be noticeable if you shave that area. But I think it depends on the doctor.

hunkydory wrote: No I haven't tried pumping but think I will. If I recall DMSO is topical correct? Is the idea to rub it on the skin? - I am not sure I understand what it is supposed to do for my situation, I thought it was for scarring (I will look it up too).
Thanks, D.

I found with using DMSO and iodine it didn't actually remove scar tissue but softened and shrank it greatly. I've heard of people using it in another applications to soften and reduce tissue, so figured it's worth a shot on a fibrotic grafts. I don't think it would dissolve the graft, but I wouldn't be surprised if it helped soften it and make it more pliable. Doing that in conjuncture with meds that increase blood flow to the region along with pumping stretching might help. I'd try all these options before considering PMMA or surgery.

That is an eye opener...
I think I need to do some research or take a wait and see approach.
When you say that your skin is wrinkled or lose, is it in folds?, just really lax? or wrinkled like a sheet? My can go through any of those stages or look perfectly normal. When I have an Erection it looks fine, just Flaccid it looks bad. Thanks in advance.

So I have been putting 70% DMSO/ 30% aloe on it twice a day. I definitely have much harder erections which is not what I was expecting at all. It does seem to be having an effect on the graft and my penis hangs more (also not something I was expecting). I do feel like there is more blood flow to my penis, almost certainly.

I am going to Mexico on the 25th of February and will get the PMMA added to the graft to smooth out the contours. Mostly I am logging this so if there is someone else who comes to this with hardened dermal fat grafts like mine, they will have some info on the subject.

I don't have pics from before I had surgery done - 1993 or so.
I do have pics since the dfg / lengthening surgery when it was healthy and I'll post one of those (attached); plus a current shot - need to take - and hopefully I'll have a decent after PMMA shot as well.

Thanks Iron Martin. I actually have a doctorate in psychology that I don't use - but you made perfect sense. I am not ready yet. And I am not ready for consequences. The first time round I was ready for anything, so thanks for clearing that up for me.

@undecided thanks for the same reason. I think i will tell them to hold the money for 6 months and then decide. I haven't had sex with my natural un-enhanced penis in 2 decades, I think I should try it out first. The answer I think, will be really obvious when the time is right.

best to everyone.

Wow - it looks really good. I forgot what your old pics were like and just jumped to this page. I was like - wait this is a reduced size?? It still looks pretty huge. I really wouldn't mess with PMMA at your size ... and from all your surgery, ther may be some irregularities you have internally that could make the PMMA ball up.

Thanks Iron Martin. New1inch I had my ligs cut 20 years ago so don't turtle much - but with the dfg my Flaccid went from 6" or 7" x 6". I gained 2" Girth from the surgery or even a little more. Without the grafts I am usually 5" or 6" Flaccid. Sometimes even smaller - there is much more variation without the graft in me. Post surgery I am 7 x 5.25 Erect, and about 5 or 6 x 4.5 or 5 depending on its mood.
Looking at the pic I realize I have hyper-pigmentation all over my Balls too. I didn't notice before.

his unit looks several different colors/shades , esp after HA injections and then after DFG Removal......anyway to reach him would be much appreciated. TY.