TOPIC: Korean phalloplasty

i will be very glad if you can emali some of the docs over in Korea and ask them about the permanency of PMMA? Just their thoughts on the product, and what PMMA is approved over there.

thx in advance

Another thought is that it could be mixed with Dextran. This would make sense given they seem familiar Lipen.

The urodoc-website refers to a Dr.Kim, his clinic is in Gangnam, a plastic surgery heaven in Seoul.
I don't know about the case manager, but I went for plga injection there in November.
It's a simple procedure and from what I gathered, injections in general are very popular in South Korea.
As far as I understood, Drs. Kim and Perovic worked together closely in former years, but I didn't explore further, but he struck me as a very experienced and skilled doctor.

Mmmm very interesting thread are there any doctor's outside of korea using this method?

acu wrote: Yao:

Can you ask Dr. Cho if he can get "either" of the Lipen products into the area between the Circumcision scar and the glans?

If you've seen most of Dr. C's PMMA results, there is a sudden, irregular transition in this area, very noticeable in the Erect state. I guess it's due the the skin for most guys being tight in this area. Despite doing many of these procedures over the last few years, it's the one problem (at least to my eyes) that Dr. C has not been able to overcome or improve on much.

Please ask Dr. Cho how close he is able to get his products to the edge of the glans. Thanks.

acu

Hi Acu, Please contact him at androcho at hanmail dot net and please share with us your findings. Thanks

Here is the only doctor I can find in Seoul with large website in English. He his adamant about PLGA scaffolds and HA as ways to enlargement. Here is his website. Ilinked to the page about his thoughts on pmma

www.urodoc.co/pmma.htm

Hi stackcats00,


It will be nice if we can see some pic.s before and after.

Are they using Lipen-D or Lipen-P for Glans enhancement ??

I think they are using only Lipen-D ( no PMMA) for the glans .

Btw ;

Lipen-D :- contains 100% Dextrans ( contains no PMMA) ---> it lasts > 2 yrs ---> Not permanent .

Lipen-P :- contains 85% Dextran and 15% PMMA ---> Permanent .

Could you ask them pls, what is the difference between Licol + Lipen ( Licol "D+P" + Lipen "D+P" ) ??

Thanks

Yao:

Can you ask Dr. Cho if he can get "either" of the Lipen products into the area between the Circumcision scar and the glans?

If you've seen most of Dr. C's PMMA results, there is a sudden, irregular transition in this area, very noticeable in the Erect state. I guess it's due the the skin for most guys being tight in this area. Despite doing many of these procedures over the last few years, it's the one problem (at least to my eyes) that Dr. C has not been able to overcome or improve on much.

Please ask Dr. Cho how close he is able to get his products to the edge of the glans. Thanks.

acu

-How did you find out about the procedure
Through the website.It was the only website in English I could make out online.

-What is the mechanism?
The liquid form also uses microspheres, I can't tell you more about it than the website does.
I understood that all of the material is absorbed by the body and replaced by collagen.

-Doctor's account on permanency:
He said they have to dilute the solution with Hyaluronic Acid (5%) for increased viscosity.
Otherwise, he didn't promise stellar gains which I found reassuring, but said the procedure can
basically be repeated endlessly, however more than 3x would rather point to dysmorphic disorders than
necessity.If I remember correctly,he said the result should be pretty much what you saw after swelling
goes down.Mind you, they do advise you that when they speak of permanent results, they don't mean
it'll stay that way until forever, it just degrades much slower than other materials.

-Availability of other procedures:
They offer a wide range of procedures, but I think the Dr.'s specialty are "clinical" urological
procedures like sex changes or conditions such as Peyronie's/hypospadias.Again, that's just my
impression.For any why-questions, you'd have to ask them.
He did show me some pictures of botched PMMA injections which they treated (i.e. removed the
PMMA) which discouraged me even further from considering PMMA.

Bottom line:
Time will tell about what to expect.If it's a small progress and can be repeated risk-free after one or
two years, I'd recommend it.
So far, it feels natural to the touch, there are no bumps or dents, no pain after the procedure,
swelling and bruising subsided quickly (few days). I didn't have to massage, just even it out every
once in a while ("after you take a leak").

Btw they attributed the popularity of penile injections in Korea to the Japanese-Korean habit of public bathing (nude) which apparently leaves many men shy or unsure about their size.

ok well in that case from the study showing 14% of FBG with dextra..you then one could ASSUME with the data to date, (based on limted info on this forum) PMMA is prob safer..however long term effects are unknown...I did read that website about complications withb patients who had PMMA in penis in Brazil and it seems they all went to the same doctor, hence the tecnique most def plays a role in future problems, however I still think that it hugley depends how ones body reacts to it short and long term. Yes product and technique play a role in mimimising these effects, however its irrelavent to some degree in my view as everyone autoimmune system will react differently. I have also spoken with a PS in my country who has used PMMA before (not many where im from & not in the penis) and has treated FBG prior. I cant exacltey rememeber the outcome but ill ask again. he did mention though that with his knowedlge they were rare his advise was that it doesnt matter and always plan and be dillegent for post care and costs associated. Knowing that I can go to him as im so far away also provides a little bit of extra comfort should it be required. All in all to me, I think in the majority of cases left alone the body should eventually adapt..but then again in cases seen, it may not...

hi try to search adam clinic use google to that...

he is a korean Urologist and he performed PE enlargement....his website also english

I'm trying to find studies on products like Reviderm and Matridex, but there really isn't much.

Yes, it has Dextran in it.

So is Zuidex like Dextran or similar H10?

rts.ger wrote: The urodoc-website refers to a Dr.Kim, his clinic is in Gangnam, a plastic surgery heaven in Seoul. I don't know about the case manager, but I went for plga injection there in November. It's a simple procedure and from what I gathered, injections in general are very popular in South Korea. As far as I understood, Drs. Kim and Perovic worked together closely in former years, but I didn't explore further, but he struck me as a very experienced and skilled doctor.

That's very interesting. We've discussed the use of injectable PLGA before. I asked Miro Djordevic about it and he didn't think it would work, hence he did full PLGA surgery (which rarely seems to work).

I've love to know more about injectable PLGA though.

Could you start a progress report. I think we'd all be very grateful.

What have you gained?

How does if feel?

How much did it cost?

Where did you learn about the procedure and how did you conclude that was the right option for you given all the possibilities in Korea?

Do you have any photos?

Are you pleased with the results?