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#  TOPIC: Temporary fillers

##  Re: Temporary fillers

   13 years 2 months ago [\#1278189692](#1278189692)

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##  Re: Temporary fillers

   13 years 2 months ago [\#1278202496](#1278202496)

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> hoddle10 wrote: This is really promising.
>
> Are you going to schedule a phone chat?

Hoddle:

As we know, with PMMA aesthetics, there still seems to be a problem with the "taper" as it gets closer to the glans. In the Erect state (with most guys), there is usually that sudden drop off between the Circumcision scar and the glans...

From pics I've seen of temporary fillers, this doesn't seem to be as much of a problem. It looks like they are able to get closer to the glans. Why do you think that is? Maybe temporary fillers harden faster or there is less migration?

I've been contemplating PMMA for some time now, but can't afford all of the necessary followups and travel costs that go along with it. Since I live in the South Eastern U.S., this would be a better option for me.

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##  Re: Temporary fillers

   13 years 2 months ago [\#1278139778](#1278139778)

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As far as i know VRF30 is not a new version. It is a different formulation but it has been out for as long as the VRF20, since 2008. It provides bigger volume due to larger particles.
You may want to read this study [ www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23388646](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23388646)

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##  Re: Temporary fillers

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 Why aren't the people who are in the united states already checking out dr.Tampa ?

Harleyman said that he started with either 4.75 or max 4.85 inches girth and in his thread he holds gains with still 5.1 in December 2012. His procedure was in Febuary 2012 he said and within that procdure gained 0.5 inches.

So this means that after even 10 month he still has a gain of 0.27 inches, (0.7cm). IF we start from 4.85 inches.
And IF we start from 4.75 then he still holds a gain of 0.35 inches (0.8cm).
Which is both like 1 whole centimeter in my head in circumference extra.

Posted 10/27/12 > harleyman wrote: I paid $1300 for two Radiese syringes with Dr. greenwald and the gains are still there, not as big as when I had it done but definitively there.

Posted 12/24/12 > harleyman wrote: The radiesse lasted for about 6 months, I still have a small gain but the majority wheat away. I had the readiesse in Feb.

Over half of the gain is still left after 10 month.
Those 0.27 (or 0.35) are still there and it is a freaking gain. I am not girth spoiled yet so this is really something.

Aswell i read on my google search alot that radiesse has a timespan of lasting 9 month to up to 2 years!
Not to mention that his aesthics are flawless from what we can tell from his pictures.

( By the way this is assuming he took those pictures after 10 month, which i would guess since he only got to the forum in late 2012 and posted them then. If he would have taken them somewhat imidietly we would see a 0.5 inch gain on his messurement picture SO YEAH this is true, call me sherlock )

[ phalloboards.websitetoolbox.com/post/sho...76171092&amp;postcount=3](http://phalloboards.websitetoolbox.com/post/show_single_post?pid=1276171092&postcount=3)

So however if this is true and he got 0.5 inch gain from those 3cc at cost of only 1300$ (if you took even more cc even more gain ? unknown yet but possible)
which are still lasting with 0.27 (0.35) inches gain after 10 month then i can't see, how this is not a awesome procedure option.

No risk of granulomas! FDA approved product! A safe procedure this ist the best part of it imo.

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##  Re: Temporary fillers

   13 years 2 months ago [\#1278147477](#1278147477)

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> Obsessed wrote: As far as i know VRF30 is not a new version. It is a different formulation but it has been out for as long as the VRF20, since 2008. It provides bigger volume due to larger particles. You may want to read this study [ www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23388646](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23388646)

VRF30 isn't new. When Macrolane first came out in the UK I looked online to by it myself, as I was consdiering self injection, which would have been a stupid thing to do. I was able to source a site to buy it quite easily, but one of things that worried me was I wasn't sure wether to buy VRF20 or VRF30.

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##  Re: Temporary fillers

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 HI AG,

macrolane has been suspended in some countries after it has caused ed for some patients.the firm behind the macrolane gel has now updated the gel and introduced a newer version - VRF30.I have however not been able to locate a doctor who injects this for Girth enhancement.I called dr viels office this morning asking if they still inject macrolane....there answer was not anymore as FFT is a better option.Apparently they charge 4000' for the initial FFT session and then 100' for every top up which is recommended every 3 months. I just wished there was a viable and better solution than PMMA.I am 31 now...with EG...cant wait anymore for new solutions for Girth enhancement. Depressing

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##  Re: Temporary fillers

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 Reading his description of the method sounds too good to be true.lasting effects of 12-24 months, 1200', natural, firm etc. thanks for the links guys...Hoddle what is your perception of this alternative

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##  Re: Temporary fillers

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 Thanks for doing this. You are doing our members a great service.

Ask about typical gains. It seems like such a small amount of product.

Obviously ask about possible complications.

Check he uses a micro cannula and not a needle.

How many has he done?

Try and ask is the nicest possible way, why he's the only Dr we can find doing this in the US. It all seems too perfect.

Does he use a local anesthetic or a topical like Emla?

What post op protocol is there?

Ask if he has any before and after photos.

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##  Re: Temporary fillers

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 Interested1 please ask about if the technique he uses.
Going in with the cannula and just laying lines of the product ?

I'm sure he can give a short "yes basically that's it" or "no and explanation".
(I'm interested in that because of the small amount which i am kinda confused about, but that is actually super news)

Why a 6 month touch up with Radiesse when it lasts way longer then that !
And the price 1800$ a year seems ok to me for getting a safe procedure done.
Thanks alot for contacting the Dr. !

> yao wrote: spoke with david ralph's. Ralph doesn't use Radiesse but instead Restylane

Thanks alot for doing that aswell!
We knew what he uses tho, the question is if he would inject Radiesse if we would want that.
That is something that should be asked directly probably. The reasons Radiesse is interesting for the use of Girth augmentation is obvious it is firmer and longer lasting then macrolane/Restylane. And even cheaper with only 3cc used for lasting 1 year - 2years.

And what implant does he do. That is completly new information. Hoddle go ring his bell right now !
The Filler option still sounds better to me then thinking of another hard implant combined with a real surgery.
But we would need more information of course to judge this new implant.

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##  Re: Temporary fillers

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 I don't think Hyaluronic acids filler harden. They don't work like particulate fillers as far as I know. When you inject 10cc of Macrolane, that's what it is and that's what remains. But with PMMA between 70% and 90% of the filler is carrier that gets absorbed and is replaced with collagen. I'm assuming that collagen is firmer than Hyaluronic Acid and fat. I think that is what makes the difference. The firmer collagen based tissue doesn't get compressed by the skin.

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##  Re: Temporary fillers

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 In French, but a couple of good before and after shots towards the end of the clip.

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 Hi Hoddle, Harleyman is one of the forum members that had the Radiesse injection a dr called greenwald in tampa.According to him 2 syringes lasted him around 6 months at a cost of around 1300$. I will email dr c and the tampa doctor to find out more.Hoddle, what do you know about juvaderm. Found a clinic in us who injects juvaderm.

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##  Re: Temporary fillers

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Hi,
Radiesse is a safe and effective filler that I have used successfully for many years. Clients who have had injections for penile enhancement are very happy with the results. The filler works for increasing Girth. I usually start with two tubes for a total volume of about 3 cc. Total cost is $1800.00; the material should last for more than year and in some people it seems to last a lot longer.

If you call the office at 813-258-2425 we can schedule an appointment or a phone chat.

Thanks for the inquiry.

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##  Re: Temporary fillers

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> yao wrote: Hi Hoddle, Harleyman is one of the forum members that had the radiesse injection a dr called greenwald in tampa.According to him 2 syringes lasted him around 6 months at a cost of around 1300$. I will email dr c and the tampa doctor to find out more.Hoddle, what do you know about juvaderm. Found a clinic in us who injects juvaderm. [ www.nvpsaz.com/male/phalloplasty-surgical-penis-enlargement-2](http://www.nvpsaz.com/male/phalloplasty-surgical-penis-enlargement-2)

I don't know $1,300 for 6 months seems like an investment my wife wouldn't go for. Rather do PMMA for 4k and it never go away.

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