TOPIC: Met Dr. Loria yesterday

I think Irishfan is telling the truth. I've said before on this forum and will say it again, the large majority of guys aren't capable of making sensible decisions where their penis is concerned. The ability of the average male who craves a bigger penis to filter out massively obvious warning signs and be influenced massively more by the answers they want to hear, no longer shocks me in the slightest. I've done it myself and may well do it again at some point. Irishfan wont be alone. Others on this forum, mostly lurkers unfortunately, will seriously be considering this procedure and many will go ahead. The fact that we've got a member who has had it done and his penis has fallen off will be seen as a green light to many, whilst in reality I one could inject Vaseline into their penis and not expect to see problems for many months or even years. That is what part of what makes inject-ables so tempting. There is very little down time and hardly anything in the way of recovery, so it seems like a relatively harmless procedure. Look at how quickly PMMA gained popularity.

PmmaBoards wrote: Ok, I over reacted, I see you are concerned. It is just looked like you were attacking the guy. just like the admin attacked Dr Loria after saying disrespectful posts would not be tolerated. He should run for office ! I mean for better or worse Irishfan is sharing his experience which will benefit everyone. I am not convinced the material in mexico is any safer. I mean we don't really know where the stuff came from. Ii am not saying silcone is safe either though. Irishfan please do not stop posting, YOU are a pioneer.

You can say that about loads of substances. The point is with the Brazilian (not Mexican) PMMA, we can make some educated guesses or assumptions. With Dr Lorias cocktail we are clueless and to a large extent so is he. Irishfan is a guinea pig more than a pioneer.

A more sensible approach for Dr Loria would have been to inject smaller amounts into the arms of 100 paid volunteers. He should have taken histological data for at least a few years. Then if he was satisfied with the safety, started experimenting with small injections into the penis.

Lets cut the crap here. We all know you are or represent Dr Loria. I'd urge you to rethink this whole thing. I really doubt you understand the utter devastation a man goes through when he permanently damages his penis. If you did, unless you were pure evil, you'd not be experimenting on men as you are. You procedure might prove to be the answer we've all been looking for, but history shows this is unlikely and even if it is, the chances are there will plenty of tweaks that need to be made along the way.

Take this procedure off the market, approach things in the right way and come back in 5 years time if by then you are able to demonstrate a satisfactory complication rate.

Doctor Casavantes wrote: He's right only PMMA is safe Thanks Hoddle.

Dr C , how nice to finally see you on this board. Please watch out! there is this new fantastic magical potion that will increase Girth in a few procedure and by accident, will give a "modest" increase of 0.5" to 1.5" in length..Check dr loria thread for some superb pictures of his technique...I am sure once you see those pictures, you will realize how true this procedure is...

I think it is time for you , Nurse Wade, Mel and Christian to pack up and come to Florida and work as nurses helping the new genius who invented this new procedure...

The flights to Florida from Mexico are on an 80% discount right now, every one is flocking to FL for to see this new dr, even one of the local news channel irresponsibly showed him injecting a patient with his magical solution without the help of any one else holding the penis stretched, this guy is just amazing....

Please do not be "butt hurt" of this new dr, he is taking all your patients away from you, including myself...See you all in Florida!

I can only feel the gland and no senceitvity loss that I can tell. He does work alone and he was very confident and would tell me what he was doing. The position of his hands I could not see where he went in or headland. I think he said he has done a hundred or two. I was very comfortable with him.

The one thing i liked was he thought I was going to pay the 12k for 3 treatments. When I told him I was only going to do one for now he did not try to change my mind. I told him if it worked I would be back and I wasn't worried about the discount. He seemed confident I would be back.

Irishfan
Would love to see some pictures when you're up to it.
Happy healing

Irishfan wrote: I can only feel the gland and no senceitvity loss that I can tell. He does work alone and he was very confident and would tell me what he was doing. The position of his hands I could not see where he went in or headland. I think he said he has done a hundred or two. I was very comfortable with him.

The one thing i liked was he thought I was going to pay the 12k for 3 treatments. When I told him I was only going to do one for now he did not try to change my mind. I told him if it worked I would be back and I wasn't worried about the discount. He seemed confident I would be back.

WOW, he did HUNDRED or TWO in a span of one year AND he did also the hair transplant too? he must have had his office opened 24/7

Not sure about long term safty but I can tell from being through the procedure I feel it is very safe. One of the men I spoke to said he went through a couple before it worked right. He and the Dr. Told me it took a while to get the right products mixed correctly. Even with the failed attempts he was very happy and sent me some pictures. This guy told me he went through a differnt type of invasive surgery 10 years ago. He couldn't say enough good about this.

So I guess the big question is weather it will turn to colligen? Is this correct?

PmmaBoards wrote: Ok, I over reacted, I see you are concerned. It is just looked like you were attacking the guy. just like the admin attacked Dr Loria after previously warning others disrespectful posts would not be tolerated ? He should run for office ! I mean for better or worse Irishfan is sharing his experience which will benefit everyone. I am not convinced the material in mexico is any safer. I mean we don't really know where the stuff came from. Ii am not saying silcone is safe either though. Irishfan please do not stop posting, YOU are a pioneer. full disclosure: I posted before. my name is ICE CREAM and I was banned for not brown nosing Dr C. BTW this is my SECOND post thank you and good day Sir. ICE CREAM

No you were banned for using a proxy when warned not to. You are now banned for re-registering.

Dr Loria this is getting absurd. Everyone on the forum know it's you, so just post under your own account.

Sorry in advance to bring this thread back to life but I came across Dr Loria's site yesterday and listened to the 1.5hr recording of his group consultation. With a dozen people on that call and dozens of questions, only one time did someone ask what filler he was using. Even then he mentions something like "we use Artefill and...Silikon 1000.." and I cannot remember word for word but no one asked about safety or any additional questions about the fillers. MAN, it's just crazy! No one cared what he was putting into their dicks, just "oh, so how long does it take", "can I still have rough sex?, etc and half the guys were ready to sign up on the spot. It just goes to show how little research it takes to convince someone when all they have been thinking about for years is how small they are.

FYI, he's running "package" specials where you can buy up to 4 injections in advance and he guarantees 1.5" EG gains with 2 session. It's like $8-12,000!! and I bet he is doing a couple a week if not more.

Maybe he read this thread and used smartman and others advice and came up with a better "cocktail" but without knowing and seeing exactly what he is mixing in front of my face, I still would never consider it. Even then, I would wait a few years.

DISCLAIMER: NO ONE GO GET THIS DONE! I DON'T WANT BAD PENIS KARMA. Just thought i'd share the craziness.

Actually Supa hasn't had PMMA either. Also as I pointed out in a previous post, PMMA has evolved. If the first generation products were producing acceptable levels of complications then there would have been no need to research and make changes. For example, the size selection and smoothness of the beads have refined over the years. The need to do this is only found out at the cost of early patients. That is how these things work.

As I've said previously there are lots of substances that can be injected into the penis to make it bigger. But not all of these substances will be equally tolerated by the body and thus the rejection/complication rates will be much higher in some than others. Unfortunately even with the most well tolerated non biological injectable there will be complications. We need to do all we can to ensure as few people have to endure complications as possible and the only way to judge that is to have some understanding of what is being injected and the history of the product in this or similar applications. Unfortunately there is no way of knowing with Dr Lora's cocktail. I don't mean just because he's keeping its formula a secret but also because there is little to nothing recorded about the use of high volume Silikon1000. Also there is a sparsity of information on it's use when mixed with other substances, which is probably due to the fact it's manufacturer specifically says it shouldn't be mixed.

So it isn't about being "butt hurt," but about having a sense of responsibility and caring about people. In my opinion PMMA is far from a perfect solution and those who have under gone the procedure should be deemed as pioneers. But at least they have some ideas of the risk and can make a decision by researching the product history.

Thank you for the information. Maybe it is too early to draw conclusions but can I ask if you had any loss in sensitivity ? And where did he stick the needle to inject the glans ? Finally does he work alone or with an assistant and did he act confident like he had done many previously or did it seem like this was new to him ?

Glad overall you are happy. FC

Just curious- you have gained 1.6 inches in only 10 months of manual PE and you say you have a BPEL of 8.1? A 2 Inch fat pad.

Sorry but something doesn't seem right here, SORRY! Not buying this guys story. You guys can! Im not.
and you don't know what the DR injected into you? are you crazy!!!!

When I was in for my procedure on friday with Dr C, I spoke with Wade about the forum. I asked him if they would join and he made it sound like they didnt want to because of situations like this. I do not believe that is Dr C posting.

Well, to be honest I don't recall that, but he may have. I was so nervous and asked him a million question before we started. I do feel a small bump at the top of my right forearm like a bb sise. But I can't say for sure. If I were to guess I would say no because I think I would remember. But I stick myself with needles everyday so that is something that would not faze me?

I am not a Dr. So it wouldn't matter if he told me what it was because it would have no meaning to me. As I said I spoke to some people and had a meeting with Dr. L so I was comfortable. I don't care what he put in as long as my Dick gets fat. Do we know the long term effect on anything? One week the fda says somethings good then bad and back and forth. I do not let fear controll my life.

You have no right bashing Loria. You don't know him or what he is using. So anything you say is unsupported. You are bashing something you don't Even know what it is.