TOPIC: Dr. Loria

You are a Hypocrite wrote: Moderators should exercise wiser judgement.

And doctors should exercise good ethics.

"You are a hypocrite" has (shill) written all over him. Only 3 posts protecting someone you don't know. I had high hopes for this procedure with Dr. Loria. But all this shilling he has on this forum helped change my mind fast.

The first guy I talked with did mention the covering up of the veins like you are wondering, 2ndguy said no suchthing happen to him.
@tommy how would I upload after that?
I have emailed the doc asking if he appt available in sept if I find no bad press on this procedure.

Guys one of his customers sent me a few pics this morning and all I can say is this dude is huge over 7 Inch Girth. Hopfully I can ask him to visit the forum and chime in.

Bigben wrote: But I also think it is foolish to limit the conversations to positive outcomes only because it gives guys a false sense of optimism.

Exactly. That's the very reason why I (we) ask you to provide some background/sources/info to your assertions so that we can bring to light real risks associated with any given procedure. In this way we can improve the balance of information, both positive & negative outcomes.

In the meantime, I ask we resume the topic matter, thanks.

I am actually meeting with the Dr. tomorrow. Seeing that I am brand new to this forum what are questions I should ask him that you all may or may not have. Also what are other options to PE I am seriously looking for a viable option seeing that I am extremely small 4.25 EG and 4 EL and am completely embarrassed by it. Thnx

Even the butcher elist shows pix of before and after even thu some were not convincing, so if you do not see proof, run way. A few members of this site have gone thru hell and back and their advice is worth millions!

hoddle10 wrote:

New1inch wrote:

Skeptical One wrote: Man this guy is freakishly long...and has a nice Girth... what in the world was he thinking doing this to his penis when there is hardly any info on it (relative to other procedures) ?? And why hasn't he bothered joining the forum if he's willing to give photos away ?? And I'm not exactly sold on those photos, just saying.

And BigJunk, if you were well aware of this procedure and were contemplating as long as you (presumably) have, why did you wait till someone else started a thread to chime in??

I understand what your saying SO but just like any new procedure you may not find much info on it until more people have gone through with it. I'm pretty sure when PMMA first came to light there wasn't many testimonials or photos taken to prove it works. Maybe these guys are from the test trail and never considered to join a forum and talk about it: maybe they were just contracted to share their experiencesI with customers in exchange for a free procedure.

It seems this forum is changing rapidly. Everytime someone throws out an idea about a new procedure person is immediately shot down if they don't have a two page thesis on it. In the infant days of the old forum Everyone kept open minds and turned peeled back layers to find out if the procedure is plausible. Now if it's not PMMA people close their ears. It's just annoying and neEd to stop. Hear these people out and give it a chance. We won't learn anything if people keep getting shot off or called a shill.

When? And so what if that is the case? Do you not know the history of this industry? The reason there is no standardized technique that is because despite numerous different approaches, to date none have been able to produce results with high enough patient satisfaction and low enough complication rates. This has been going for 30 years and every time a new technique is introduced it seems to be followed by a new group of victims. We've learned from that and thus many of us are extremely skeptical when we hear about yet another new technique.

If with the first PMMA thread posted on PhalloBoards, the following day someone announced they were going to get it done, don't you think there would have been a similar reaction?

Im just saying relax. Look how defensive your being. Relax. It's only a forum. You acting like its a matter of life or death when someone has no proof. If it looks fishy to you move on. Or do your ownresearch and come back with what you found or didn't find. Calm DOWN.

This thread is being locked until BigJunk & ICE_CREAM contact me regarding their violation of Rule (R12.) which states:

(R12.)Account deceit is forbidden. (a) Multiple member accounts are not permitted. If you have mistakenly created two, delete one of them or have the site Administrator delete the one of them for you. (b) The use of Proxy servers, or any other means to disguise one's authentic IP address is forbidden.



The fact that not one, but two "interested Dr. Loria prospects" are running off a proxy smells so intensely like shill that, without a valid explanation, will be deemed as such. Account bans may be issued, and the forum will be made aware. I certainly hope this up & coming doctor isn't involved if there is indeed shady business going on. The "benefit of the doubt" is about as thin as thin can get, but I hope that this is ultimately a misunderstanding. Time will tell.

BigJunk & ICE_CREAM are asked not to continue posting (if done so, will result in instant and permanent ban) until this matter is resolved. Contact me either by Private message or Email (This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.).

This topic will reopen when the matter is sorted out.

Hi Guys, I will try to respond to your questions as best I can. I would encourage other guys to call and collect info too so we get a clearer picture. @SO I met with Dr Rosenthal after my divorce and planned on getting grafts right away. To be honest I was having a late mid life crisis and he told me to wait a while until I was feeling more upbeat about life. Also he said at my age the risk of complications is higher than a young guy, and I will take longer to heal. Then I read about re-absorption and decided to hold off even though I think Rosenthal is a good guy. I leaned about Dr Loria just recently, and I think I was jumping the gun yesterday. Sometimes I am just too impulsive. I will not schedule treatment until I am comfortable all of my concerns are addressed. @Smartman Regarding the guy with the tape measure, I also thought his penis looked pumped. The problem is he called me before I saw it otherwise I would have asked. I think another possibility is he took the picture shortly after the injection, or after some rough sex. It looks swollen to me and may be smaller when it is not inflamed. Sorry I don't know what a dorsum is. @kcchief: email. Would love to see the ones they sent your since they sound like different patients. @AE. Yes I believe the Dr said silicone mixed with something else. (what?) @N1I: I spoke to the guy with the big one on the phone for quite a while. I did not realize how big he was until I got the pictures though later in the day. He works as an adult actor and had the procedure specifically to get more work. He said he was big even before he reached puberty which I do not doubt. Also he said it was a mixed blessing, he is making a lot more money but it is difficult for him to maintain a relationship with girls outside the industry. Most don't like what he does, and he said the extra Girth is just too big oftentimes making sex painful. He said Dr loria has done quite a few guys in the Miami porn scene but they are bigger than me to begin with. He did not consider Dr Reed or any other PE surgeon because a scar or even a small Nodule will get blown during closeups and negatively impact his career. His personal advice to me was to not get too carried away and just get one injection. He reminded me you can't go backwards in size. Also both guys said they could meet me at the doctors office to see and make a decision before I commit. Anyone else beside KC thinking about this ?

DR LORIA wrote: I will be more than happy to entertain any questions.

Dr. Loria

There are tons of them in this thread alone. I'd recommend starting from page one of this thread and answering any question you haven't already previously answered. The best way to go about doing this is by Quoting a specific post by clicking on the icon on the top-right hand side of each post marked by a small pencil followed by a few dots. This will prompt a reply with the original question in a box quote. This way you can answer questions and members will see which questions you were addressing.

I highly recommend starting there first.

messageman wrote: KCChief
Your insinuation that PhalloBoards is biased in favor of Dr. C is blatantly untrue, but I am not going to get roped into defending our integrity and spend time explaining to you something that if you haven't realized by now (with all your time on the forum), you won't get anyhow. I am guessing that you at least believe that there was shilling (on dr. Loria's behalf) going on. Am I correct? Instead of thanking SO for the hours of his own free time tracking down proxy emails and Pm the shills themselves, you attack him and the site (except for M7) for not be "open minded" enough.And now, after the scam has been exposed, you are throwing a mini tantrum , accusing the moderators of not being "open minded", and to not scare the doctor away.The reason this site was created was to prevent the very thing that doctor Loria tried to pull from happening. If we weren't so vigilante, then this Site would just be another shill infested nightmare, like it was with Mynewsize I would like to see Dr. Loria answer the questions about his PE procedure too, but to pretend that he didn't try to pull a fast one from the beginning, would be ridiculous. Messageman

I am going to have to agree with Messageman here. This thread has Dr. Loria's name on it, and it would only suit all future prospects to be aware of all the questions posed to the physician and his method from the very beginning.

I don't believe the word "smear" is a fair characterization of this thread. If anyone objectively analyzes each post, you'll see there are more often questions than conclusions. As Messageman pointed out, the insinuation that there is any agenda other than the free flow of information is preposterous. I could have prevented Dr. Loria from joining this forum altogether, but instead not only did I approve his account but welcomed him as cordially as a forum Admin can.

We must be willing to ask the tough questions. If anyone wishes to get their own answers, they are welcome to contact the doctor directly. Otherwise, if Dr. Loria is promoting a new penis enlargement method, it would be wise for him to address the most prolific PE-Surgery forum on the web. For those who are much newer to the forum, if you take the time to review the old PhalloBoards (Phalloplasty.proboards.com), including threads found here, you'll see that PMMA (and Dr. C's office) were grilled for every nook and cranny of info possible before men even began setting up appointments. And it wasn't until after a few waves of brave pioneers that we were able to ascertain the short-term realities of PMMA. And with all this being said, we're still not entirely sure of the long-term implications. However, with Dr. Loria, there has been such a lack of transparency that it raises questions, and fairly so.

And let us not forget the shilling element. No credible doctor should ever engage in such practices.

I feel that he should remain on this thread, and if he's a genuinely ethical doctor with a truly effective method, he'll be able to support it with thorough answers, picture submissions, etc.

kcchief wrote: Smartman,
I like how you think. I trying to understand how it works as well. He told me avrage amout is 10 -60cc per session. Its not all silikon 1000. I am wondering if the silikon is sold in micro droplet foarm? Or is that why he has to mix it. I also wonder the size of the droplet compared to PMMA bead size? Any how you sound like a great person to call and ask the
Indepth questions. Let's keep the discussion going.

Unless Dr. Loria is willing to reveal his "proprietary" information, everything will be speculation & guesses. No thanks to a syringe full of "speculation & guesses" in my Dick.

His "cocktail" isn't something revolutionary. It's just a clever way to perform a cost-effective penile bioplasty with a permanent filler in the states. Think about it, no one can afford Artefill, and Linnea Safe & Metacrill are not FDA approved. So he has to find something that is (i.e. Silikon 1000), and mix it in such a way where he can distribute the product 10cc+ of the product without an insanely high number of injections. He does all this in light of the fact that Silikon 1000 clearly states it is not to be mixed with other substances. He's ultimately finding a way to jump onto the penile bioplasty bandwagon, and finding a cheap alternative to Artefill is why he has this "cocktail." What concerns me is what is in this cocktail. Who knows what is being mixed to keep the "overhead costs" low. How safe are the other substances that he's mixing with the Silikon 1000?And as Smartman pointed out, there is no way Dr. Loria was completely oblivious to the techniques of other physicians around the world. And I wouldn't be surprised if he was aware of this forum (and consequently, the success of penile bioplasty in the short term) well before he introduced his own method publicly.

There is actually a huge difference between Dr C and Dr Loria. Bioplasty and PMMA were around and established long before Dr C started injecting it. The only reason Dr C is so popular around here is because he's the nearest established Bioplasty practitioner to the US (or California at least.) If the US were nearer to Brazil I suspect another practitioners would be equally as popular. For the European based guys it seems Dr N in Prague is becoming as, if not more, popular than Dr C. The point is, that the material and the technique is established.

Dr Loria on the other hand is using what appears to be his own propriety cocktail and is developing his own technique.

You say they are both willing to inject material they "believe" in, but one is clearly taking a much greater leap of faith than the other.

kcchief wrote: That's what I was thinking. There is a lot of off topic smearing intheirs thread.

If what you mean by "off topic smearing" is the accusation, investigation and eventual banning of shills supporting (and most logically employed by) Dr. Loria's office then I would have to say that it definitely is "on topic".This action calls into question the very ethics of the doctor and hence anything further he has to say.So I will address the elephant in the room and ask him why he felt the need to employ shady tactics such as shills and possible fake photographs.