TOPIC: Let's clarify one thing about size...

@hoddle, I don't think we'll see a limit to desire in girths until someone presents a tangible consequence to growing too large. So far, there have been few and vague reports of negative experience due to 'too much' Girth. This is why we need to know at what size, if any, does a large Girth yield negative results (e.g. inaccessibility to vagina, physical displeasure, etc.) to the majority of women.

Androgen wrote: In all honesty the reason for me contemplating penis enhancement is 100% solely for my own happiness and satisfaction. I'm not trying to build something to make some random girl cum, or even a wife (if I had one.) It's my body, my thoughts, my life. I'm unhappy with what I have, and am going to change it. The ultimate outcome falls 100% on me. It's no different than what I did with my body, I didn't start working out and experimenting with hormones and peptides for anyone but myself. The result, a body that I'm proud of. I look in the mirror and I smile. It doesn't have anything to do with what girls say, or the compliments from people (even guys) at the gym. I feel the same approach should be taken to PE. If you're doing it for someone else, you're doing it for ALL THE WRONG reasons. Just my opinion. So if I want massive Girth, then I'll make that happen. It's about what I want, not anyone else. At the end of the day, married, single, promiscuous or not, you die ALONE. You have to live with YOURSELF. There is no escaping your own mind. No matter how many girls tell you your HUGE or SMALL. Ultimately it's your own thoughts the control the outcome. I once had a pyschologist tell me that others can't affect our feelings. It's our own interpretation and lack of control that allows someones words to hurt us or cause us stress. I think that's never been more true, especially in a PE sense.

But why are you unhappy with what you have? Do you even know how big your 3rd toe is compared to the average. Have you even given it a second thought?
In my opinion it seems that most guys have an issue with admitting they are getting this done as a result of being concerned with what others think. It seems as if it is seen as more noble or sensible to be doing this "for myself." But I just don't buy it. I firmly believe that the root cause for wanting a larger penis is nearly always to do with being concerned with what others think. I just can't imagine a guy who was raised in solitude on a desert island, with no contact to other humans, would ever consider increasing the size of his penis.

So OP how big are you?

New1inch wrote: The last girl I was with was a teenager few years back we were together 2 years. She was not tight at all and only been with 1 other guy. I don't find Asian women attractive at all so that won't work for me. My Girth is 5 inches but to me that's still small to me because I personally seen bigger. With my last girlfriend I count feel her. At that point I knew I may be on the slim side. Also I rock a 5 Inch length Cock. And that's 5 inches when I'm super hard. Normally is just under. Sex is not enjoyable to me with my current length and Girth. I slide out a lot and feel like I'm fucking nothing but air. The girls I'm attracted to are not twig sized girls. I like hips and ass. Kim kardashian type girls. If you seen her sex tape youll know she took that big Dick with no problem. And to satisfy the body type girl i like I need i need to have a very meaty dong.

I've read some stuff with "vagina size and hip size" correlations and none really exist, at least from what I've gathered from (mostly anecdotal) sources. You may have had bad luck, but you could easily find a petite girl with a large(r) vagina and a big girl with a tighter one. If correlations do exist with hip size, race, etc, I suspect the correlations are weak.
If it's unfair to assume that all black guys have big dicks, than it is equally unfair to assume big-hipped women have larger vaginas. Get what I mean?
5" EG is solid! and instead of seeing your unit as thin, consider the vaginas that you hit as "looser" than average, or perhaps you had her so wet she was just that much more receptive. Some girls are big down there, don't be too hard on yourself for what is definitely a good Girth.
I also dig the curvy types so I can totally relate to that (unfortunate & unfounded) thought that runs through our minds regarding Girth... of somehow wanting to be "meaty" enough for the meatier gals...but if that were such an issue than thick ladies would only be dating "girthy" guys...and I just don't believe this to be the case (correct me if I'm mistaken anyone).

New1inch wrote: I agree with Androgen, 7x6 and a lot others. I know a few like to run to the porn anolagy but in this new age theres a lot of home-made porn from average joe non-porn stars. And these dudes are rocking 8x7 dicks. And the girls they are with are taking the ENTIRE penis. Me personally I haven't had sex since I was 21 and I'm 25 now. Reason being when I met my last girlfriend she was 17 and I was 19z she only been with 1 guy before me and I know he was large. The first time we had sex I COULD NOT feel a thing. And i couldnt keep an Erection because of it.
The relationship went Downhill right after our first time having sex and I know for a fact it was because of my size. We broke up 2 years later but the relationship was over way before that point. I haven't had sex since. I PE because I KNOW my Dick is small at 5x5 and no one can tell me different. "I HAVE A CHILD'S PENIS!!!!" And I will do everything in my power to elongate my Dick. I rather my Dick fall off trying to make it bigger than being humiliated with a kids penis attached to me. I'm doing it for my self esteem and also pleasure. I'm 25 now and plan to be at least 7X6 by the time I'm 30 years old.

To be quite clear, the majority of amateur porn stars are not rocking 8x7s... many are big though. It's just that bigger guys are less camera shy... doesn't make them a common thing.

I will complain about going too big in Girth...mildly ..

When I had the silicone implant, the base Girth was 7.25" tapering to about 5.5". This was the perfect Girth for "Me" and "my ladies". Now after my third PMMA session, the base is 7.5" and abit more with maximum EQ tapering to about 5.85". I have had a few encounters where this Girth caused bleeding even with foreplay and KY (and I am not proud of it, I do not like causing pain where pleasure is the goal). But remember I normally prefer pettit and/or Asian women so this for sure plays into my experience.

So, for me, the 7.25" Girth was ideal, and the 7.5"+ Girth is going over the top. I suspect however that I will loose some Girth in the coming months after which all will be well. I mean to post soon about my 3RD session but have been busy catching up with work and moving.... Will do soon thu!

The picture below is about 80% Erect..

imbignow wrote:
What does this all mean? One girl's past motivated me to get bigger and another girl's comment made me realize that maybe it isn't as important as I thought.

It means that men will never be able to understand women's comments on the subject of size since I think THEY do not know themselves and their comments change based on their emotions/feelings at that moment!

It's really crazy I read this post today because I was just thinking about this.
I've been with probably 70ish girls over my time ( late 20's now) and was confident until I found one that I actually cared about. Found out she was with a really big one and something in my head said, "ahhh you need one now." Well, I take many risks in my life so doing something like PMMA wasn't that big of a deal. This may be a dumb way of looking at it, but I figure if something goes wrong in 30 years then the advances in the medical industry will be good enough to fix the issue. Who knows, maybe we'll have robotic units that can grow, vibrate and turn into a flashlight when you're done so your girl can find her clothes.
Another reason I did it is because I've lost interest in sex a bit. I've done it so much with so many different people that it just seems like routine now. Having a new penis makes it feel different mentally and physically. I'm hoping it feels better after round two since I feel like I have extra skin.
Those are the thoughts and reasoning beyond my motives. The reason why I was thinking about these thoughts again before round 2 is because a new girl I'm seeing told me that she never got off on bottom before until she met me. I have no idea what her past dudes were like, but after round 1 I'm between 5 and 5.1 mseg. So, nothing big or anything to brag about, but some how did something that nobody else was able to do. What does this all mean? One girl's past motivated me to get bigger and another girl's comment made me realize that maybe it isn't as important as I thought.

You dont have a childs penis. You got 5" Inch Girth motherfucker. I got 4,75" eg and im happy with it.
5 Inch Girth man, do you know how good that is
It is FIVE Inch! Fiveeeeeeeeeeeeee! i just had to edit the last two sentence because i realised what 5" means, man your like supermangirth.

I bet this thread will be another reason for giving some people new size insecurities which is absolutley not needed!
Don't push each other with nonsense.

Damn wish i could all of us give a bitchslap, to come to our senses.
And i wouldnt give a soft one


by the way only 999999999999999999999 threads with this topic are about to follow.
and i wont post

The last girl I was with was a teenager few years back we were together 2 years. She was not tight at all and only been with 1 other guy. I don't find Asian women attractive at all so that won't work for me. My Girth is 5 inches but to me that's still small to me because I personally seen bigger. With my last girlfriend I count feel her. At that point I knew I may be on the slim side. Also I rock a 5 Inch length Cock. And that's 5 inches when I'm super hard. Normally is just under. Sex is not enjoyable to me with my current length and Girth. I slide out a lot and feel like I'm fucking nothing but air. The girls I'm attracted to are not twig sized girls. I like hips and ass. Kim kardashian type girls. If you seen her sex tape youll know she took that big Dick with no problem. And to satisfy the body type girl i like I need i need to have a very meaty dong.

Hmmmm... Wonder who you're referring to...

I agree with the points made. In my case, I'm married with 3 children and unfortunately... way over 30. I also lived without a functional penis for nearly 15 years. I'm not out to create a monster however the increase in size has made a HUGE difference in the quality of sexual relations with my wife. I would imagine that a non childbearing woman would find my size very large but not huge. I know several friends with genuine penis length's in excess of 9" and girths of 6"+ and they've rarely had issues with most girls they've slept with. My ex roommate was a blessed guy with a monster Cock. He always had girls calling him for sex and had many threesomes and foursomes due to his stamina and humongous wang. Most of these guys report that girls typically go wild over their size and can become quite covetous over their new found "prize". Opinions will always vary. Perhaps on my side of the continental United States, women prefer larger men.

I DO NOT feel younger men should have a PMMA procedure done. I also do not recommend anyone go through an elective, life altering procedure without fully assessing the risks and long term consequences of their decision. I've only been with around 8-9 women in my life and ALL of them said they like a big penis. Your mileage may vary. Even pre peyronie's, I was 8" in length and 5.5"+ in Girth and was never told that I was huge. I was told that I was a good size or "perfect". Truth be told, most really well endowed men are promiscuous and the girls that have been with them... compare every other man to them. This combined with the warped perspective pictured by the porn industry will drive the average joe insane. It's not a fair world. Never has been. Never will be.

Let me also add that many and I mean many women have no clue how to tighten their vagina to make their man feel better. Most of them are lazy and want the guy to please them, they feel entitled you see!

Shit.

I'm 23.

Guess I took one for the team boys...

The way I look at it is. Say I do have a complication 5, 10, 20 years down the road. I am pretty sure there will be some sort of "fix" to it, however invasive it might be. It might be a bitch to fix. But I took the risk and am willing to see how this pans out. That's just my opinion. The benifit outweighed the risk for me.

Some of you may think I am a dumb-ass for getting it so young... I am kind of glad I got it young at the same time. I am having the time of my life right now.

ALSO, weigh it in this way:

- 23 years old.
- Spent 5+ years spending 1+ hours a day in the bathroom stretching, pumping, Hanging... obessing about my penis and growing it larger. Thinking all day about PE and what I could do to make it bigger.
- Did some dumb, irrational things to myself.
- Developed a "deviant" type mind... I was two faced. There was the Sizemic all my friends and family knew and loved and the Sizemic who fantasized all the time about growing it bigger, worrying about missing out on stretching time etc.

What PMMA did for me:
- Freed me of my desire to PE.
- I don't stretch, I have no want or need to, I only pump for pleasure sometimes when im bored.
- I hardly ever think about my penis anymore. I am genuinely happy with that aspect of my life right now.
- I am starting to feel like there is just "Sizemic" now. I don't have a crazy hobby that burdens my subcouscious.

Did I take it a little far? Yes probably. I have a lot of material in there. I have to pay the price if it turns for the worse. For me the risk was worth it.

gamecock wrote: This is about researching the best option available and deciding if it's worth the risk to try to create a potentially happier sex life and more confidence for ourselves.

I agree. That was and still is the ultimate purpose of this forum/site.

gamecock wrote: I have been with dozens of women in the last couple of years and I have learned that while I'm sure size does matter to a point, the majority of pleasure comes from how a women feels (what she thinks) about you. She has this idea about you and that is what makes her cum, not you're amazing Girth.

I totally agree. And while I may not have half the experience of some of the guys here, I know from my conversations with women as well as what I've learned over the years that quality sex with a woman is as much mental as it is physical (for both parties).
However, in fairness, when it comes to a purely physical point-of-view, a girthy penis can provided added sensation for both parties. Even in light of this, one does not need a magnum Girth to achieve quality sex. At the end of the day, a healthy guy with intelligence, humor, and charm, sporting an average unit can be just as (or sometimes more) gratifying than a John Doe with a monster Cock.

Just because men don't complain about going "too big" doesn't mean women don't complain about having to deal with them. Heck, some men enjoy seeing a woman struggle to accommodate a size, which in effect can be a complaint by the woman, but not necessarily a complaint by the man. According to posts made (purportedly) by women on non-PE sites, being "too big" can pose problems. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the experiences here aren't entirely forthcoming/accurate as to the range of compliments & complaints received for a big size.
I do believe, however, that most women can accommodate most sizes with the proper preparation & foreplay. Ample lube and a receptive mate can make the challenge of a bigger unit tolerable and even enjoyable. But for your short-term affairs & hookups, I'd be willing to wager a sizable bet that there is a "too big" limit for a good range of women.
And, yes, Shane Diesel & Short Mac are too big for most healthy vaginas, so I'd like to think the limits do exist (though the limits would be a matter of range rather than a specific size). Most of the girls in Shane or Shorty's pornography can't take their entire units, and I've seen some where the actress can't mask the pain (unless they are acting, but having makeup ruined by tears is impressive acting for an adult industry actress).