--- title: "Filmmaker about to go under knife - PhalloBoards - Phalloboards" description: "Hi all, my name is Greg Bergman. I am a documentary filmmaker making a film Big Like Me: One Man's Quest to Enlarge His Penis.... - Page 2" url: "https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/5811439-filmmaker-about-to-go-under-knife.html?start=15" date: "2026-08-06T17:57:35+00:00" language: "en-GB" --- PhalloBoards - An Online Community to Discuss Penile Girth Enhancement General Forum Doctors Forum Username Password Remember me - [ Forgot your password? ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/reset.html?Itemid=101) - [ Forgot your username? ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/remind.html?Itemid=101) - [ Create an account ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) # TOPIC: Filmmaker about to go under knife ## Re: Filmmaker about to go under knife 14 years 3 months ago [\#1273220987](#1273220987) - **[zayne](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1843574-zayne.html "View zayne's Profile")** - [![zayne's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1843574-zayne.html "View zayne's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1843574-zayne.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 127 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1843574) Anything is fine Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZ2VuZXJhbC1mb3J1bS9nZW5lcmFsLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLWFyY2hpdmUvNTgxMTQzOS1maWxtbWFrZXItYWJvdXQtdG8tZ28tdW5kZXIta25pZmUuaHRtbD9tYXJrZG93bj0xJnN0YXJ0PTE1) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Filmmaker about to go under knife 14 years 3 months ago [\#1273580157](#1273580157) - **[stillwantmore](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1770881-stillwantmore.html "View stillwantmore's Profile")** - [![stillwantmore's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1770881-stillwantmore.html "View stillwantmore's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1770881-stillwantmore.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 53 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1770881) Why do we need yet another movie about this topic? What will be the "insight" we gain? "My Penis and Everyone Else's" Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZ2VuZXJhbC1mb3J1bS9nZW5lcmFsLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLWFyY2hpdmUvNTgxMTQzOS1maWxtbWFrZXItYWJvdXQtdG8tZ28tdW5kZXIta25pZmUuaHRtbD9tYXJrZG93bj0xJnN0YXJ0PTE1) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Filmmaker about to go under knife 14 years 3 months ago [\#1273220228](#1273220228) - **[Mexmuscle](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1765440-mexmuscle.html "View Mexmuscle's Profile")** - [![Mexmuscle's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1765440-mexmuscle.html "View Mexmuscle's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1765440-mexmuscle.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 241 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1765440) If you read about the experiences from those who underwent the Elist implant you will probably conclude that is not a good option. You can read about them in this forum. So far maybe one out of several dozens has speaken in favor of Elist's procedure. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZ2VuZXJhbC1mb3J1bS9nZW5lcmFsLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLWFyY2hpdmUvNTgxMTQzOS1maWxtbWFrZXItYWJvdXQtdG8tZ28tdW5kZXIta25pZmUuaHRtbD9tYXJrZG93bj0xJnN0YXJ0PTE1) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Filmmaker about to go under knife 14 years 3 months ago [\#1273859999](#1273859999) - **[biglikeme](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1811612-biglikeme.html "View biglikeme's Profile")** - [![biglikeme's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1811612-biglikeme.html "View biglikeme's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1811612-biglikeme.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 4 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1811612) Hi all, Thanks for responding! my name is indeed Greg Bergman, Skeptical One, and I am making a film. Below is the link to my trailer/proof of concept. I am at the point of determining whether to just do Casavantes or do lengthening and Alloderm with Dr. Barron. I would LIKE to do lengthening and THEN PMMA, but for the film doing a couple different surgeries doesn't seem to work well. Any final advice on what to chose? If anyone would like to participate in the documentary in any way, please let me know. Check out the link below! 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Will believe otherwise until proven otherwise. 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If we had a lawsuit going, then I dont mind using my real name. 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I loved it!!! I just wish this guy would come back to the forums and discuss the final results and how he feels about it years later. I have tried different internet searches in an attempt to talk to this guy. I would love to see a blog or something about it. However, it seems like the movie came out and he disappeared off the face of the earth. Anyone know anything about him? 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The procedure itself is relatively minor and the recovery is again minor. The possible complications that are of most concern tend to show up months or years later. To be honest the whole project just seems like cliched nonsense. It seems like another attempt of documentary makers to push the boundaries, by making a film on a controversial subject. But I'd be amazed if you did the subject justice. 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Given your willingness to go public with a matter as intimate as penis enlargement, would you be open to submitting information to verify the legitimacy of your identity? In the age of the internet, forums have an ethical obligation to prevent individuals logging on and assuming an identity that can't actually be proven. If you cannot, or are not willing to submit information to verify your identity, I will simply have to remove the name "Greg Bergman" from your posts. If you wish, you can reveal any sort of information you wish with individuals via private correspondences which I have no domain over. I hope you have my understanding, and look forward to your response. Good luck with your documentary. 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Or course, I am still deciding on which one. My number is 310 806 2744 for those of you who have expressed interest in being interviewed. Of course, anonymity can be assured through face and voice distortion/blurring. 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I wish dr elist ad was not mentioned or shown, unless all the other dr's were mentioned then it would be a more neutral. elist implant is one of the most dangerous options, if not THE most dangerous out there and I would not chose to put it in the video. 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Hoping he documents someone undergoing surgery or PMMA and their outcome. Lawrence Barraclough came close, but never delivered the over-all out-come of Jarrod's results in his doc. Kind of uneventful and meaningless effort without that if you ask me. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZ2VuZXJhbC1mb3J1bS9nZW5lcmFsLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLWFyY2hpdmUvNTgxMTQzOS1maWxtbWFrZXItYWJvdXQtdG8tZ28tdW5kZXIta25pZmUuaHRtbD9tYXJrZG93bj0xJnN0YXJ0PTE1) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. 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