TOPIC: AFTERCARE

Thanks for sharing. does Bellafill, PMMA, And Linnea Avanti have plastic in it? Also, how does Avanti Derma get the hard stuff so inexpensive? I know HA and PMMA is extremely pricey but I was reading Linnea is made in Brazil. How does the plastic long term impact the penis and have the facilities in Brazil been vetted?

Sanchez wrote: Thanks for sharing. does Bellafill, PMMA, And Linnea Avanti have plastic in it? Also, how does Avanti Derma get the hard stuff so inexpensive? I know HA and PMMA is extremely pricey but I was reading Linnea is made in Brazil. How does the plastic long term impact the penis and have the facilities in Brazil been vetted?

Think of it as acrylic-like (so I suppose plastic-like), and they are in the form of microspheres suspended in a carrier gel (that gets absorbed by the body). The microspheres are encapsulated with your body's collagen, and that's how the girth is made.

I'm not sure of any recent review or audits of the manufacturer, the process, or the facilities, but I do know what studies I have read on it shows that its particle size variation is very comparable to Bellafill and thus ideal for neocollagenesis. There has been no reports of recall that I'm aware of.

Medical Tourism is popular because both Cosmetic Medicine AND materials/fillers are less expensive abroad (but not necessarily less in quality). That's why Mexico, Turkey, Thailand, and others are often visited for dental work, hair transplants, and straight up plastic surgery. This explains why it's less expensive with Avanti Derma, but there is no drop off in quality, that much is for sure.

Also, this question/answer is a bit off topic so I ask we resume the discussing the purpose of this thread moving forward, thanks

@VT86

How many weeks you will use your stretcher after BellaFill?

You got BellaFill only on the ontop of the shaft or also on the backside as Dr Rupeka does?

got a bit lost in the wash and i got a bit rambly, ask my question here; for PMMA or PCL, is there a consensus on wrapping while you sleep, either with standard gauze or something like a urowrap?
Specifically wondering if the compression required to prevent retraction would yield a negative result, whether through squeezing out too much filler, OR, causing an odd shape. I know for me when I pump and do my trial run of post-PE wrapping, I can maintain a really good shape and avoid retraction with 3 layers of urowrap (basically pretending the post pump edema is PMMA carrier)

I feel like during the day, alternate between using the weighted ball noose stretcher, and massaging, and when it's bedtime, throw on some urowrap, drink a shitload of water so you're woken up every 2 hours to piss - and after you piss, remove and discard the wrap, heat, massage, slap on a fresh wrap, grab another 2 hours of sleep.

I'm a pretty chaotic but heavy sleeper so a donut pillow and stomach sleeping isn't going to happen. Side sleeping with a solid wrap, however, would.

Is this a sound idea and if not, why not so that i can remove other similar ideas off the list?

I'll do a full write-up once I'm further into this process, but two bits that are fresh on my mind as I sit here in the hotel post-PMMA before I forget

-they weren't kidding about the benefit of heat. I had a bit of a ring of filler (PMMA) near the base I wanted smoothed out, really stubborn; I'm not doing any hardcore massaging yet because I'm still slightly bleeding, but that ring can be massaged, and it wouldn't budge when I tried massaging normally. Wrapped an infrared heating pad around my bandaged dong and went after it again, and it was downright EASY
-I brought my urowrap to the follow-up with Ian, and what he said made a lot of sense; the worry with this urowrap material specifically is that, while my entry points are still weeping, this material is going to get into the entry points, something we do NOT want. Meaning, it's not suitable material for the open wounds. Once I've stopped leaking, different story.

And this is something to mention regarding preparation, but it's going to affect your aftercare and worth a heads up: if you old -attack-waiting-to-happen bastards (like me) take daily aspirin, stop it a week or more out before your procedure. I stopped 5 days give or take, and I'm sure it's affected my platelet count. This is relevant to both PRP, and entry point closure.

Hi gents, it's been a while since I've posted anything. I had round 5 of Bellafil this past May 29, 2024 and this time I took the train into New York (only an hour and a half for me) and tried out Dr. Shafer. He is a top notch plastic surgeon who has a specialty in penis fillers. Just FYI, The Shafer Clinic is really the Ferrari of cosmetic surgery in NY so the service is top notch as is the price. It was about $7K for about 4 ml's. About 25% more in cost than my previous procedures in Atlanta. I'm an old bird at 58 so not having to travel with a no stress procedure appeals to me. Certainly not for everyone's wallet. But the procedure went well. I was a bit nervous because Dr. S uses a cannula which I had read about and it sounded awful. The upside is there was much less bleeding and seemingly even less aftercare concerns. I do have more lumpiness than normal at the base but I've grown to accept the consequences of PMMA and you just get used to it.

I wanted to point out, again, that each visit I've been limited to 5 syringes, or about 4 ml's due to my small size. I've been stretching and Hanging for 2 years now. I estimate
I've gained a half Inch to three quarters of an Inch in length. Probably somewhere in between. It's hard to say since my initial measurements weren't totally accurate. But in any case, my length dictates much smaller procedural doses than most of you guys get. I say this to emphasize that with smaller doses of Bellafil, the aftercare is so minimal as to
be almost non existent at this point. I primarily get hard and massage during the day, sleep on my side and stomach at night and don't think about that much anymore. I do apply very warm wet towels for heated massage, but quite frankly, if the product is spread out adequately during the procedure, you don't need heat. I've always slept with a body pillow because my back is a catastrophe, so it makes it easy to sleep partially sideways and on my stomach.

Oh, I use size A Tubigrip for aftercare bandaging, and it's easy to buy online. I use 4 layers of wrap but that's only for the first couple of days of aftercare. I'm so small and
have considerable retraction so only plaster of paris could prevent me from retracting like I do. So during the day (and I start at about 6 am), I try to get hard as often as I can and massage often. I up my Cialis dosage to 5 mgs. I take half that normally. Pro-tip: I had taken PT 141 a couple of times during aftercare, but the company has a special
patent now and it's extraordinarily expensive to buy. About $1,000 now from what I researched. So I don't buy it anymore. I used to get it for almost nothing at my clinic. PT 141 will keep you rock hard for 5 to 7 hours. Not pleasant and nerve wracking. But if I were getting large doses like some of you and were concerned about retraction, it's a good way to go. You're not supposed to take more than 1 dose over 48 hours so it can get a bit dicey. I reserved taking the peptide for day 3 when I telt the set up was getting close to finalizing. It's just another arrow in your quiver for aftercare.

Hope some of this information was useful. The main point is, if you're seriously concerned about aftercare, stay with small doses and spread it out over time. You have to
be extremely patient. I've been going for probably 2 years now, 5 visits, a total of 25 syringes. Most of you guys have probably gotten that dosage in 1 to 2 visits. So aftercare is extremely vital. I've also spent enough money for a sizable down payment on a home in CT, so that's something else to consider. But as Dr. C in Atlanta likes to say, "how long have you had your penis for?". If you waited this long, you can be patient for another few years and not risk fucking up the only Dick you have.

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Hey @Dbrphallo if you need more PT141. let me know. I have a really cheap connection for you.

Oh man awesome. Thanks. I have your number and I'll text you later on today.

Oh, I guess I should probably mention my Girth results after all of this time. Might help the newbies with this bit of data. As I said previously, I didn't take copious measurements when I started. I really had no idea I'd be making this a life style so I didn't start off all scientific. But approximately: I started at 3.75 inches in Erect Girth. I currently stand at about 5.25 inches mid shaft and about 5.5 inches at the base. Again, I'm really short so there's not a big difference between mid and lower shaft. This is after 5 visits over about 2 years and 25 syringes. Each series of 5 syringes is about 4 ml's of product. So you can do the math. I actually lost about a half Inch between rounds 4 and 5 which was very disappointing. It's literally like getting robbed for $6,000. But thems the breaks of the filler world. You don't normally hear about size abatement with Bellafil, but it's not like there's a whole lot of data out there. But that has been my experience. I plan on 2 more visits over the next 12 months so I can get north of 6 inches on the mid shaft. I do expect to lose Girth over time and I believe refill visits will be necessary into the foreseeable future if desired Girth is to be maintained.

All the best

Brother, I personally think it is a great thing to go really slow like you are. Granted, I might kick it up a few syringes over what you have been getting. But really, i have this many times on here. I think it will produce the best looking results in the end. I dont mean size, I mean looks.

RE: the PT141, the instructions i was given were to basically wait until your entrypoints have stopped leaking.

I'm at 22 hours post-procedure and as of about 90 minutes ago during that checkup, leaking is done. So I'm going to knock out some PT141 when I'm done walking around for the day, so some Erect manipulation. The low dose tadalafil I never stopped, and as that's less involuntary and something you can fight off with "think dead puppies" where PT141 isn't, it's served me fine.

Agreed Texas. The more patient you are, the better the look will come out. Don't get me wrong, even with only 5 syringes at a time, I still get lumps and bumps. But that's
just the way my anatomy reacts. As you know, everyone's anatomy is different. I'm the guy that gets a scar after a papercut. And over time, you forget how smooth your original D used to feel and look. But the extra Girth is more than worth it for someone like me. I do wish I could go more on the product each time, but I just don't have the surface area or volume to accommodate it.

It goes thud: Not sure why you'd want to use the peptide so soon after your procedure. You've easily got another 24 hours until the product starts setting up. I learned
this the hard way. The first time I used it too early and couldn't use it again when the product really starting setting up on day 3 and 4. I would wait at least another day.
You should be totally fine with rolling and massaging until that time. Unless you're able to bare 2 days in a row of 6 hour hard ons! I can't. It's just too painful for me.

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I react to it a little differently; after about 4 hours i start to involuntarily kegel and get hard, stays hard for about an hour, and then for the next ~12 hours I stay at about 70% unless stimulated, then I've got something that's a danger to drywall. I'll have aftershocks of sorts where it randomly pops up but I can make it go away for maybe another 24 hours?
I also only do a 1mg dose. Unless I'm also giving her a dose, then I need to double that just to keep up (and her snooch turns into a 4000sqft barndo once you get past the c-section stitches, hence the PMMA!)
I've gone as high as 4mg and that one...yeah, that high a dose I'm worried about Priapism.
Either way at that dose, with the way my body reacts and not staying hard for so long, it pretty much just keeps me extended, with a hard enough base to mold against.
Anyone who would flirt with the idea of using it should...definitely NOT be testing it for the first time immediately after getting a bunch of filler in their dicks lol
If I reacted the way you did damn right i wouldn't be pinning it tonight!

Hysterical brother!! Yea, I agree about experimenting with the peptide first before using it for aftercare. Looks like you have it down to a science which is kinda where
you want to be on that stuff. I liked to use it when I know the product is really starting to set, like day 3 or 4 and just use it for 24 hours. After having a hard on for so many hours
I just didn't want to go through it again the next day. I also use 1 mg. That's plenty. Takes me about 2 hours though for it to start working. Then keep your D away from carpenters cuz they might confuse it with a nail that could go through a 2X4.

Can a Penis Pump cause troubles with recovery/expected gains if its used after the 2nd week of PMMA?