TOPIC: 57ml Ellanse Progress and Beyond

it's probably a little bigger but just above the base is thinner than mid shaft so I don't account for it that much. Also, when Erect, there's even a spot below the base, let's call it the sub base, where it narrows out and is actually thinner. I believe that when I'm fully Erect, a part of the shaft is coming out from behind my pubic/fat pad area and stretching skin outward, moving the bottom most collagen when Flaccid slightly forward. It's a very narrow area I'm referencing that is smaller in Girth. And honestly, I think the different levels of Girth may stimulate the vagina in a good way, who knows, I still aim to work on the base.

I think that before my Circumcision it wasn't doing this. I believe only until after the circ did the skin at the base start being pulled out due to the skin being brought forward before being stitched with the inner skin. I believe it was perhaps hard for Dr. C and Dr. M to get product at what would be the actual bottom of the base when Erect because when soft, the skin isn't being stretched and is in a different state. The discrepancy between mid shaft and base gains was pretty large after the first round with the base having gained about .25 more. Since, they gained similar size in rounds 2 and 3.

Another thing, my base doesn't seem to swell nearly as much as the mid and upper shaft. It may not even swell at all. I believe this is due to my skin tightness in the area directly above the base before mid shaft. You can tell in some of those top down pics that this particular area didn't grow as much collagen as the areas directly above and below it. Ian and I agree there's a natural constriction there in my penis. I've mentioned this before and this isn't uncommon. Either collagen isn't growing there as well or product is having trouble sitting there. Ian suggested and I agree that it's a combination of the skin tightness pushing the product above and below it as well as collagen not being able to grow out due to said tightness.

Therefore, it seems, that the edema is pooling above this tight sector because it's having trouble flowing out through the base of the shaft. It's most noticeable when I'm Flaccid and swollen. The mid shaft sort of balloons out with edema right above this area. I'm not a doctor but I believe the skin edema would flow out into the pubic region of my body via the base of my shaft. But if the highway narrows down to one lane, there will be a back up. But eventually the fluid will get to it's destination. So maybe it's just simply a drainage issue with me and others. Some guys don't report swelling per se but that doesn't mean their penis isn't maybe producing edema. The fluid could just more easily be flowing out. Again, correct me if I'm wrong, but the edema isn't absorbing directly into the meat of the shaft to which it sits. It wants to get down the shaft towards my body. When people have fluid built up in their ankles/lower calf, I believe it's because there's an issue with things circulating down to your feet and back up again. Again, I'm not an expert on lymph nodes.

I believe subsequent top ups on the base would have a minimal effect on swelling because the fluid seem to not get caught there.

Mate you have great results , after having so much product, most guys would look terrible.

I have solution for you if you want to impress ladies with your Dick without actually showing it, you can capture its shadow at the background. This way it will sparkle their imagination instead of just dic pic.
And once its in their head they will want to see if its real and from there on you know what to do .


Im definitely getting Ellanse done in near future,

But i dont like the idea of cuting my Foreskin.
Luckily my oenis is not short and base and shaft Girth are similar and Girth narrows to glans.

My idea is to get product little product starting 1 Inch behind glans ( this way avoiding any Foreskin problems ) and then increasing product down to base , but not putting much to base as i hear that it can migrate to ball sack and inner penis. Basically getting similar shape to a rugby ball - being thickest at midshaft. Adding maximum 1 Inch to midshaft , the rest getting less increase.

I believe it will have a very natural outcome.

Whats your thoughts about this approach and is it doable in 2 sessions .

Mine looks extremely similar--same issues with swelling, though I don't have a problem with going the next AM or eve. Usually
the woman cant--they're too sore. Ya--it swells up crazy--sometimes to near 8 Inch Girth for me, but luckily my head and upper shaft are smaller.

I have less product overall--29ml versus your 39 but I gained about 40% more /ml--perhaps having loose skin helped me? If so, a pumping and stretching regimen for a period
before the procedure may be of some benefit? Also, Like you I gained much more in my 3rd round--the 2nd was to burn off nodules.

I will probably go in for a near base touchup at some point--like you it seems like there is little product for the 1st Inch or two.

I think a roughly 25% increase in circumference is about all you want to aim for. less if you don't have a big glans to start with. If I had to do it over again, I'd do a slight bit less for aesthetic purposes.

can you please elaborate what you mean with ‚inner skin‘? As opposed to what? I hope you don’t mean getting injected into the erectile tissue, right?

Also can you please specify which doctor did the fisrt, second and third injection?

Otherwise congratulations on your progress!

lolwatthefa wrote: can you please elaborate what you mean with ‚inner skin

The inner skin is the pinkish skin above the circ scar. It's the skin that's revealed when the Foreskin is pulled back on an uncut guy. With Foreskin, the penis is technically an internal organ so this skin the Foreskin was protecting is considered an inner skin.

Dr. C did rounds 1 and 2 and Dr. Morales did round 3.

Nothing short of incredible!
Well done.

I'm back in Tijuana for round 4. Rd 3 was May 5th 2021. I'm about to get 10 more ml of Ellanse L which will bring me to 49ml. I thought it'd be cool to get to an even 50 but I'm good with 10. As I mentioned earlier, I think no one else in the world has more Ellanse in their body than me. Anyone out there from the Aussie clinics or anywhere else feel free to say you have more. I'm not really bragging but it is somewhat cool to have the most in the world of something lol. I wouldn't be bragging if if I had 70ccs in me and I suffered some sort of complication or it deformed my Dick somehow.

There are some imperfections I'd like to address this round while still adding some Girth. I think trying not to retract while sleeping is the toughest part of post recovery, as well as maintaining the use of an ADS for five to six weeks. Without any swelling from sex or masturbation, I hover around 6.35-6.4 mseg. I believe I gained .05-.1 6-7 months after the initial 3 month Ellanse growth stage in which I gained .3-.35. Looking back on it, a 1.35 gain from 3 rounds isn't that bad. I'm predicting a .3 gain from this round which should put me around 6.7-6.75. After this, I'll most likely call it quits until I see some gains decrease. Which could be anyone's guess when that will happen. If 4-5 5 years passes from today (not from my first rd in Sept 2020) and there's still no decrease, will I go get a touch up or 8 mor ccs? Maybe, I don't know. This stuff is addictive. I'd like to think I'll be fine with any gains from this round. I'll most likely foresee some touchups in the next 5-6 years. It'll be real interesting to see how long the product lasts and how long collagen will be maintained.

Swelling from sex should put me past 7 inches consistently depending on how rough the sex is. And if I get to 6.7 after this round, jerking off for 5 minutes before a date will probably get me to 6.8-6.9 easy. I know it sounds dumb to get a little swollen before meeting a girl but I like doing it. And I'm going to get swollen anyway so why not. If there any complications from swelling long term, so be it. Doing this has changed my life dramatically. It's been better than any therapy I could have ever gotten. The Ellanse will go away so if there are any complications those too will go away, that's how I look at it.

As I've said several times, I'd like to get to a point where I maintain only 12-15ccs of Ellanse in my penis and the rest of my gains are from the developed collagen. So maintaining 6.5 of Girth with relatively little product is my goal probably. But there may not even be anything that results from the swelling other than the fact you get swelling. I'm still not convinced the swelling is caused solely by irritation from a foreign product. I believe the collagen growth is obstructing the natural flow of edema out through the lymph nodes. In which case, even when the product is gone and collagen is left, there still could be swelling. I'm just going to keep trying to live as healthy as I can while still having fun, balance a healthy lifestyle with one where I can still drink and eat bad food on occasion. I'll be continuing to down a ton of vitamins on a quest to live the most anti inflammatory lifestyle I can. One thing's for sure and that's doing all this would be pointless if you didn't work to be the best you can in all aspects of your life. It's not just about making girls cum harder, that will not lead to a fulfilling life. It's about being the best man you can be while on this earth.

I agree with everything you said . I think that I must have residual edema due to less lymphatic drainage ... so some of my excess gain is perpetual swelling from the injections .

This explains why I got 1.5 inches from 29 ml .
What is interesting now is that since I had the surgery ( where I experienced alot more swelling ) , like Texas , I have not dropped to my pre surgery thickness ( 7-7.25 ). Now I am right about 8 and 8.5 after sex .

I have only tried twice since the sugery ( 10 weeks ago ), but i still was able to get in with both women and, like you , it's crazy how much most women love Girth -- the bigger the better even up into the 7+ range .

Dthom, so you're about 7.5 right now with no swelling? I think when you swell up women are able to take it and love it so much because the edema creates a softer outer layer. If your Dick was as hard as a glass dildo, they wouldn't really enjoy it. But the swelling causes your Dick to be like those soft dildo toys that when you look at them they have enormous Girth. They sort of conform to the vagina adding the right amount of pressure while not hurting. Dicks always sort of worked like this but the swelling fluid more so.

First off, congrats on the upcoming 4th round. Your 3rd round results are some of the best I've seen amongst all the progress reports on this site. I wish you luck on your next round.

Regarding softness -- How soft are you guys talking here? One of my running concerns with large amounts of filler is that the texture may get softer after several rounds.
I asked a question here that didn't get much traction: phalloboards.info/forum/general-discussi...-post-op-videos.html

It's porno with a guy who has had 3 rounds of PMMA. Especially when he goes to insert his penis at the 6:39 mark, you can see how squishy his unit is. His thumb presses deeply into the implant. Let me know @Hyperbol if you haven't seen the video and I can PM it to you.

Is the softness you're describing similar to the video.
Is it a think outer layer of squishy-ness from the edema or does the entire unit become a bit softer?

Cacx

No , it's about 7.25 soft and 8 hard . 8.5 after sex .
Ridiculous I know . You might be right on the softness . The glans are obviously smaller and it tapers big except down near the base where it's smaller ( only Flaccid )

No , it's hard as a rock under the edema , which is only a few mm thick . Squishy there , but as hyperbol said , maybe that's a good thing .

Yeah pm me the video. I haven't seen it and would like to. The collagen that has developed in my penis is very hard to distinguish in terms of hardness from my old Dick. It's hard for me to compare because it's hard to recall the hardness of my old Dick. It's not squishy, it's real similar and probably indistinguishable. When you swell though it's a different story. It's fluid so it's softer. But it's not very soft, just softer. A vagina would be able to take it more. After my first round and I was at 5.75. I don't remember swelling at all.

In the end, it doesn't really matter because softness will still fill a women up if it's a lot of Girth. It still adds volume and pressure and she'll still love it. You just need more Girth to softness ratio.

Wow, swelling over an Inch Dthom, that's nuts!

I know -- guess my lymphatic system is bad .

Does suggest that if your planning lengthening , you may want to anticipate some Girth increase if you've previously had Ellanse .

I don't think there are many out there who have