TOPIC: Ellanse Girth Journal with Androfill Dr Horn in London (previously had Voluma)

Dexterphall wrote: oops spoke to soon, remeasured now swelling is going down 6,1" this morning.

Be interesting to see where I end up.

Won't know for a week is my guess.

With Ellanse you won't really know for 3+ months.

It's not Ellanse.

I went with Voluma again.

I should change that titlle

mate, anyway I can change the title from

Ellanse Girth Journal with Androfill Dr Horn in London (previously had Voluma)

to

Juvederm Voluma HA Girth journal with Androfill Dr Horn in London?

I totally forgot it had that old title. - didn't go Ellanse in the end.

Why did you go that route?

Photos would be amazing if you don't mind. There is is very little Androfill info on here and you would be really helping us EU guys.

Don't do it! I had it done and developed lumps. The response to my request for advice was dismal = non-existant.

Dickwhitman79 wrote: Why did you go that route?

I had a good result last time with them so figured, let's go again.

leon2022 wrote: Don't do it! I had it done and developed lumps. The response to my request for advice was dismal = non-existant.

You got lumps with Voluma or Ellanse?

What do you mean "dismissal" ?

Who did you speak too?

karmaz1 wrote: Photos would be amazing if you don't mind. There is is very little Androfill info on here and you would be really helping us EU guys.

Really, there should be dozens of Androfill here. It's literally the biggest most trusted UK player on these forums.

leon2022 wrote: Don't do it! I had it done and developed lumps. The response to my request for advice was dismal = non-existant.

You know I'm rather suspicious (and annoyed) when someone with a 1-post history decides to come in and bash a Doctor but fails to introduce themselves, share their experience, and explain in detail why they felt they received poor service.

And to be honest, in the past it's usually been either (1) an unreasonably disgruntled customer of theirs -OR- (2) a shill competitor. I could be wrong on both accounts, but to be frank, I have no other reason not to believe this since you Mr. "leon2022" failed to provide us any details. Don't bother posting again unless you can substantiate yourself as a former patient, Before & After pics and all (and in a new, separate forum thread). Cheers.

Skeptical_One wrote:

leon2022 wrote: Don't do it! I had it done and developed lumps. The response to my request for advice was dismal = non-existant.

You know I'm rather suspicious (and annoyed) when someone with a 1-post history decides to come in and bash a Doctor but fails to introduce themselves, share their experience, and explain in detail why they felt they received poor service.

And to be honest, in the past it's usually been either (1) an unreasonably disgruntled customer of theirs -OR- (2) a shill competitor. I could be wrong on both accounts, but to be frank, I have no other reason not to believe this since you Mr. "leon2022" failed to provide us any details. Don't bother posting again unless you can substantiate yourself as a former patient, Before & After pics and all (and in a new, separate forum thread). Cheers.

I know them pretty well at this point there is NO Way they are dismissing him and not replying to him, they know very well how quickly bad news travels, they go overboard to contact people constantly until they resolve an issue.

This just doesn't add up.

@Dexterphall it's been nearly a month and he has chosen not to defend his baseless allegations. I think my theory stands confirmed - he's either one of the two "characters" I described.

I've been moderating this forum long enough to spot them out. If I'm wrong, well he's just done a disservice to himself and to others he's trying to share his experience with.

He's technically in violation of forum rules as far as I'm concerned - (R6.)Falsifying information about a surgical (or non-surgical) method's technique, effectiveness, side effects, results, success rate(s), and/or complication rate(s) is wrong and unacceptable. Fictional reporting (also known as "shilling") of one's experience with phalloplasty is also forbidden.

Since he attempted to hijack your thread, I'll give you the choice - would you like me to ban him or would you like me to keep him unbanned so that he has the opportunity to return some day to explain? The Ban Hammer is in your hands

In all respect Skeptical_One this is once again showing how intransparent you want to work. Me and several others have complained about the work from Dr Horn and once again you want to shut everyone mouthes when they dont speak in your favor.

Joytoy wrote: In all respect Skeptical_One this is once again showing how intransparent you want to work. Me and several others have complained about the work from Dr Horn and once again you want to shut everyone mouthes when they dont speak in your favor.

How exactly? I literally provided this user ample time (a whole month) to defend his claim. You do know that this industry invites bad players and it isn't uncommon for either unscrupulous competitors or unreasonable former clients to trash people baselessly online? I laid out my reasons for my suspicions (the same kind of characteristics commonly found in shills), and a fellow veteran member Dexterphall agreed with my concern.

Simple lesson, don't come onto a discussion forum with one vague post and ghost us when we ask for more information. If this is something you would let fly, this may explain why you aren't a messageboard moderator.

@Joytoy you are still here and you are still permitted to discuss your disappointment or dissatisfaction with whomever. I have a role to Administrate the forum. This has nothing to do with speaking in my favor and I have not shut down any substantiated complaints of Dr. Horn.