--- title: "Voluma HA with Dr Horn from Androfill in London - PhalloBoards - Phalloboards" description: "So I finally pulled the trigger after taking advice from experienced members here and Dr Oates. I did it in a bit of silence as... - Page 8" url: "https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/patient-support-group-progress-reports/8334775-voluma-ha-with-dr-horn-from-androfill-in-london.html?start=105" date: "2026-08-06T10:15:09+00:00" language: "en-GB" --- PhalloBoards - An Online Community to Discuss Penile Girth Enhancement General Forum Doctors Forum Username Password Remember me - [ Forgot your password? ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/reset.html?Itemid=101) - [ Forgot your username? ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/remind.html?Itemid=101) - [ Create an account ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) # TOPIC: Voluma HA with Dr Horn from Androfill in London ## Re: Voluma HA with Dr Horn from Androfill in London 7 years 9 months ago [\#1305787268](#1305787268) - **[Dexterphall](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4011127-dexterphall.html "View Dexterphall's Profile")** - [![Dexterphall's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4011127-dexterphall.html "View Dexterphall's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4011127-dexterphall.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 354 - Thanks: 3 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4011127) wow just realized it was 2 years since I had the first lot and I had 2 more perhaps over 6 months after max so mine lasted about 20 months approx. 100% going fast now ![:-(](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/emoticons/4.png ":-(") Wish they could make this permanent. Does anybody know is Francis still around i can't find my texts to him anymore. 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Have you found it to be hard ? You don't experience lack of Erection due to being softter? 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I never had any problems at Moorgate, but I went to Moorgate Andrology and had penis enlargement surgery. So maybe thats the difference Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vcGF0aWVudC1zdXBwb3J0LWdyb3VwLXByb2dyZXNzLXJlcG9ydHMvODMzNDc3NS12b2x1bWEtaGEtd2l0aC1kci1ob3JuLWZyb20tYW5kcm9maWxsLWluLWxvbmRvbi5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MTA1) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Voluma HA with Dr Horn from Androfill in London 7 years 9 months ago [\#1305795168](#1305795168) - **[Dexterphall](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4011127-dexterphall.html "View Dexterphall's Profile")** - [![Dexterphall's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4011127-dexterphall.html "View Dexterphall's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4011127-dexterphall.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 354 - Thanks: 3 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4011127) > costa wrote: Pretty sure he's still there, good to hear from you again Dexterphall , you sound like your'e happy with it ! Have you found it to be hard ? You don't experience lack of Erection due to being softter? No, zero issues like that, no way anybody could ever tell. Hard as normal but I will say when soft it feels a bit sofer than without.Yeah happy with it , looking back my first lot was over 2 years ago, that's insane . Then I had 2 further lots within about 6 months or so, so the last lot has lasted well over a year but I've recently really noticed it going which is a bit of a mind fuck. Wish somebody would make something damm permanent without the downsides / issues. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vcGF0aWVudC1zdXBwb3J0LWdyb3VwLXByb2dyZXNzLXJlcG9ydHMvODMzNDc3NS12b2x1bWEtaGEtd2l0aC1kci1ob3JuLWZyb20tYW5kcm9maWxsLWluLWxvbmRvbi5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MTA1) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Voluma HA with Dr Horn from Androfill in London 7 years 9 months ago [\#1305795207](#1305795207) - **[Dexterphall](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4011127-dexterphall.html "View Dexterphall's Profile")** - [![Dexterphall's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4011127-dexterphall.html "View Dexterphall's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4011127-dexterphall.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 354 - Thanks: 3 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4011127) Crap sorry, not logged in forever, seen all your PM's etc. Have answered all of them, my bad. Considering calling Francis shortly and getting a top up for sure. I take it nothing new and amazing has turned up in permanent options int he last couple of years? Mine lasted really well but it's all going fast now! 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Nothing perm. Moorgate seems to be saying longer lasting Ellanse is taking over HA, but so far we only have 2 documented cases from Dr Oats patients. I really wonder if there are lots of guys that lurk but don't post, or have procedures but don't do research? It's impossible to not find this forum if you do even cursory research! 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Moorgate seems to be saying longer lasting Ellanse is taking over HA, but so far we only have 2 documented cases from Dr Oats patients. I really wonder if there are lots of guys that lurk but don't post, or have procedures but don't do research? It's impossible to not find this forum if you do even cursory research! You know I actually couldn't remember it's name and it doesn't come up for penis enlargment in google!! I ended up finding it typing "Androfill" and it comes up 3rd for me. Duly noted on the HA. Still mind blowing nobody seems to have found a long term safe solution to this. 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I'm heading back in shortly to get topped up. Seems they have a better procedure now , that requires less massaging. They also have some stuff that they say lasts a lot longer and is cheaper but not sure I fancy being a guinea pig for that so I will stick with the Volumna it's been good to me. 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[ moorgateandrology.co.uk/2018/07/26/ellan...take-hyaluonic-acid/](https://moorgateandrology.co.uk/2018/07/26/ellanse-penis-enlargement-injections-overtake-hyaluonic-acid/) Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vcGF0aWVudC1zdXBwb3J0LWdyb3VwLXByb2dyZXNzLXJlcG9ydHMvODMzNDc3NS12b2x1bWEtaGEtd2l0aC1kci1ob3JuLWZyb20tYW5kcm9maWxsLWluLWxvbmRvbi5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MTA1) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Voluma HA with Dr Horn from Androfill in London 7 years 9 months ago [\#1305837645](#1305837645) - **[alexei](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/5806867-alexei.html "View alexei's Profile")** - [![alexei's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/5806867-alexei.html "View alexei's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/5806867-alexei.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 40 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=5806867) > think wrote: > [ moorgateandrology.co.uk/2018/07/26/ellan...take-hyaluonic-acid/](https://moorgateandrology.co.uk/2018/07/26/ellanse-penis-enlargement-injections-overtake-hyaluonic-acid/) Thanks think ! So its around 2000 Euros for now,but thats for 1 year version only. I would honestly only consider doing this in Uk rather than anywhere else,and even though its not my first language,there is nothing more reassuring than to be able to speak in English when its your penis being injected with stuff lol xD But what do you guys predict prices might be for longer lasting versions of ellanse for 10 ml?(Ellanse L and Ellanse E) I just hope it doesn't get too expensive,I would kinda love if it doesn't get that popular so it gets to stay our little forum secret xD Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vcGF0aWVudC1zdXBwb3J0LWdyb3VwLXByb2dyZXNzLXJlcG9ydHMvODMzNDc3NS12b2x1bWEtaGEtd2l0aC1kci1ob3JuLWZyb20tYW5kcm9maWxsLWluLWxvbmRvbi5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MTA1) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Voluma HA with Dr Horn from Androfill in London 7 years 9 months ago [\#1305837729](#1305837729) - **[Viduka](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1725602-viduka.html "View Viduka's Profile")** - [![Viduka's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1725602-viduka.html "View Viduka's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1725602-viduka.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 9 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1725602) Moorgate told me that the cost for Ellanse M is: 7ml ' 2100 10ml ' 3000 15ml ' 4500 Subsequent treatments are discounted at ' 20 per ml thereafter. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vcGF0aWVudC1zdXBwb3J0LWdyb3VwLXByb2dyZXNzLXJlcG9ydHMvODMzNDc3NS12b2x1bWEtaGEtd2l0aC1kci1ob3JuLWZyb20tYW5kcm9maWxsLWluLWxvbmRvbi5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MTA1) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Voluma HA with Dr Horn from Androfill in London 7 years 9 months ago [\#1305838143](#1305838143) - **[think](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/5799362-think.html "View think's Profile")** - [![think's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar5799362.png?1575050907)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/5799362-think.html "View think's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/5799362-think.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 338 - Thanks: 13 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=5799362) > alexei wrote: > But what do you guys predict prices might be for longer lasting versions of Ellanse for 10 ml?(Ellanse L and Ellanse E) Dr. Oats 3 year version is 7132.66 USD for 15 ml (assuming his prices are listed at AU) or $475 USD per ml. Morganstern in the US currently offers the 4 year version at $8400 USD for 20 ml, or $420 per ml compared to $7100 for the same amount of voluma. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vcGF0aWVudC1zdXBwb3J0LWdyb3VwLXByb2dyZXNzLXJlcG9ydHMvODMzNDc3NS12b2x1bWEtaGEtd2l0aC1kci1ob3JuLWZyb20tYW5kcm9maWxsLWluLWxvbmRvbi5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MTA1) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Voluma HA with Dr Horn from Androfill in London 7 years 9 months ago [\#1305839042](#1305839042) - **[alexei](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/5806867-alexei.html "View alexei's Profile")** - [![alexei's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/5806867-alexei.html "View alexei's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/5806867-alexei.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 40 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=5806867) > think wrote: Dr. Oats 3 year version is 7132.66 USD for 15 ml (assuming his prices are listed at AU) or $475 USD per ml. > > Morganstern in the US currently offers the 4 year version at $8400 USD for 20 ml, or $420 per ml compared to $7100 for the same amount of voluma. So its 4400 Euros for 15ml at Calibre Clinic in Australia, and a whopping 7255 Euros for 20 ml's at Morganstern US ! I really hope its worth it,so far only one guy reported his story with Ellanse... Yup, longer lasting versions (expectingly) will be double the price of what they are offering now,which is Ellanse S and M,which are expected to last between 12 and 18 months before your own collagen production starts to kick in I suppose? Still not sure how does it exactly wear off and how much of the initial Girth gains you lose after 12 months,or 4 years ... 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I kept 100% of mine for at least a year , probably more like 18 months, but when it goes, damm it goes. It's like, "hey this is lasting forever" then within a month, it's really started going FAST. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vcGF0aWVudC1zdXBwb3J0LWdyb3VwLXByb2dyZXNzLXJlcG9ydHMvODMzNDc3NS12b2x1bWEtaGEtd2l0aC1kci1ob3JuLWZyb20tYW5kcm9maWxsLWluLWxvbmRvbi5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MTA1) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. 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