TOPIC: The Thin border between PE and TEA
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15 years 1 week ago #1269578122- Miracle8x7
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15 years 1 week ago #1269692575My recent crash diet got me very skinny to the point of muscle loss and leaving next to no fat, except in the thickness of the above mentioned abdominal skin and my 15 year-old love handles which barely had diminished. These have bothered me for years and my only prior alternative was expensive liposuction with certain drawbacks I wanted to avoid. While expensive at 600 euros per love handle this is several times cheaper than the alternative surgery.
Then we went to another room in the clinic where the doctor set up a Zeltiq brand machine which is the leading State of the Art apparatus for cryotherapy. This means that it is engineered to totally freeze fatty tissues in the body without risking any harm to secondary zones or vital organs. It was invented after scientists conducted research on the hollow cheeks of children who frequently ate Popsicles, which robbed their cheeks of fat under the effect of the chill. The team at Zeltiq used the results of their work and conducted their own research to create a machine which takes in mid-sized areas of fat for a similar treatment.
He tested two sizes of rubber outlets on the end of the hose to see which would best fit my love handles. My thinned down body had enough curvature that the large one wouldn't fit. I thought "what a shame, it would have sucked in more fat and I would have gained (in this case lost) more for my money... So he went the small one, leaving a smidgen of the fat unable to enter on the slightly larger of my two love handles.
The technician from earlier came in and even had a woman doctor present to monitor and learn how to do the procedure. So I was actually a training tool for them, which didn't bother me as I figured that this way it would have to be done perfectly according to procedure. She went on to take out a special flat sealed bandage with a certain chemical preparation which she placed on my skin around the love handle. Then turning on the machine which has a long tube like a vacuum cleaner, she did all she could to get as much of the love handle inside the mouthpiece (similar to a vacuum cleaner end attachment).
Then she dialed in 60 minutes of freezing and propped me up more or less comfortably admonishing me not to move at all. This meant sitting there still for a full hour until the machine had done its handywork. She stopped in every fifteen minutes or so to check if all was okay and then came back when the machine reached its last minutes and started cycling in some strange finishing mode.
When she turned it off and removed the suction device it came out as one giant frozen Popsicle attached to the side of my hip. We then went on to the other side and repeated the whole process, only this time I made sure I was seated in a position where I could lean against something to not have to maintain my body at an odd angle for yet another hour. This one went perfectly as it was my second time around and every bit of this slightly smaller one fit perfectly into the machine's end unit. It also came out frozen, and after thanking them for doing all this unscheduled work without prior notice, I paid my bill and went on home. I did remember for at least two weeks the feeling of dragging about aching blobs of frozen love handles, which didn't diminish as quickly as I had hoped. I was told it took approximately two months to see the results, with it continuing to improve a bit for up to five or six months.
One month later I can attest that my love handles have shrunken down so much that I expect them to be totally gone next month. I can't even notice them anymore in the mirror giving me once again the silhouette of a young man I had lost years ago. This is kickin' cool and I feel a lot better about myself as this did bother me more than I had realized. My self image was hence much improved. Well worth the money and the annoyance of the procedure.
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15 years 1 week ago #1269729700I spent five days wearing a cast and another ten days looking like I was wearing a mask from the play Cats. It looked as though I was sporting an animal snout with almost nothing human about it. This morning I woke up with what I would call a human appearance, just looking like a guy with a big nose. This is incredible because normally one would find this disgraceful, but to me it meant rejoining the human race again. I couldn't care less what I look like, in the short term at least, as long as I don't look like some circus freak. So looking like an ugly guy was quite a promotion to me. While I can't know for sure, it seems that the job was done properly.
This gave me the comfort to conclude that the worst was over and that things will only get better from here on out. And then I reflected on what was left to do and noticed that the only thing which needed tweaking any more was a tiny bit of loose skin caused by the recent 10 lbs lost in the previous two weeks. So I figured that since my nose is swollen anyways at minimum for another week if not a month, I might as well do whatever else requires recovery time and convalescence during the same period of social exclusion. So I gathered a bit of courage and called my Dermatologist to see what day he'd have a free time slot, to which I heard "today at 4:30PM". To be continued.
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15 years 1 week ago #1269577653In case this helps the former's contact info:
departmentstoreparis.printemps.com/
You might also want to ask L'Oreal USA how it can be purchased.
www.lorealusa.com/_en/_us/
Remember to use the original name in French with "pour Homme" and not for Men which will not show up in their vast database of thousands of products. Also it is recommended for men who are fair haired although I would wager it would work with darker shades. The reason possibly being more predictable results and less customer satisfaction issues. That is what is marked on the box but it is useless to try to find it in another shade, no other formulation exists.
Also they say it isn't to be used on eyebrows or elsewhere but I think that indication is only a safety measure in case somebody get some in their eyes, it works on them too. They say it isn't effective in cases where one has lost entirely all one's hair coloring over all your head, but I can't vouch for that either.
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15 years 1 week ago #1269771981Here are some pictures of the extent of the surgery. It only shows the tip of the iceberg so to speak. The nasal bone had been mashed and broken back when I had the accident and then sawed at and chiseled for hours during reparatory surgery back in the day. It had to be reworked during this recent surgery but it was too hard to get much done.
All the cartilage was buckled and twisted so bad in concave and convex forms that the surgeon couldn't reshape it or rework it and had to use special microligature grafting techniques he had pioneered to rebuild and reshape new ones. Adding to this his proprietary muscular tissue dressings he calls camouflage layering, he finished the job as best he could.
The tip had been exploded by the oar and was splitting into pieces which couldn't be patched so it had to come out and be replaced with the cartilage from my ear. That was an unexpected pleasure which gave the result you can see here.
Here's what it looked like to those in the operating room for the six hours on the block. It took him four times the expected time of 1.5 hours. I don't know just how hard it was and he did say that he had to improvise quite a bit and that my case was the worst mess he'd seen. It didn't look nearly as bad on the outside as within.
Not exactly appetizing you will agree but I think this makes it easier to accept that any form of surgery is going to be invasive, except for simple injection procedures such as PMMA which hardly causes any impact at all in most cases.
HC
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15 years 1 week ago #1269568207Here is the link to the product in France, google chrome webbrowser offers an integrated page translator. I don't know if it is sold in the US but I'm sure some resellers would ship it.
www.loreal-paris.fr/coloration/couleur/progress-homme.aspx
It comes in a box with 4 small tubes, since it costs about $40 dollars one has to check they're all inside before paying the cashier as some people lift the tubes out of their container as the boxes are not sealed. It is found in Paris a high end cosmetic shops and places like Monoprix or supermarkets but only in the better neighborhoods. Run some checks with Oreal in the States to see if they sell it there or in Canada where shipping and sales to the US would be easier.
Cheers,
HC
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15 years 1 week ago #1269692386You asked the right question, it is funny how ironic life can be.
I have put myself through a ringer. Ten days after surgery both my eyes finally started to synch. I had spent more than a week thinking I was half blind because the additive implant was hard to heal and adjust to. Now I can see better than I have in ages, it removed my far-sighted need for glasses, now I can read up close better than most people and my field of vision is great with more detail than I have seen in ages.
So I will now post my experience in Total Enhancement in the following series of posts about each specific procedure.
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Re: The Thin border between PE and TEA
15 years 1 week ago #1269692387The Fraxel treatments are great for two reasons. They however must be performed by an expert who knows what they are doing. I chose the pioneer of this field in French hospitals who fortunately isn't greedy and operates out in the cheaper suburbs, making the cost half that of the posh places in the fancy neighborhoods. His expertise is no doubt also far better.
While I'm not exactly "old" I had just entered my first bout with ageing, looking always far younger than my age it came as a sudden bad surprise. So I went into the sessions properly prepared with an hour of continuous rubbing in of numbing ointment plus a fair dose of prescription opium powder pain pills right before the session. They were not superfluous, as I asked for as effective a treatment as possible and he dialed in some fairly harsh adjustments.
My first session was the entire face and neck and the back of the hands. It was a very long session and he threw in the hands and neck for free, costing me just half the price of a face session in a fancy clinic. He's a nice guy too, you will agree. As soon as he started working he gave me a mirror so I could see the skin retracting like a heated plastic bag. It actually takes the slack out of loose skin, and I had my share as since Easter I lost some 40lbs some of which was also facial fat. (I attribute the weight loss to large doses of DHEA associated with fasting)
It made my face swell all over the place scaring anyone who might look at me. I was almost unrecognizable for several days. However after 5 days the swelling was gone and my skin was showing signs of rejuvenation and a few more days there was no more flaking of the skin. Those who knew me well couldn't believe the change and marveled at how quickly it worked. This however brought focus to other problems, it created smooth skin between wrinkles on the forehead making them more noticeable. And it showed that my eyelids had sagging skin and crows feet that before sort of blended in.
I went in a month later (recommended time to view final result) for a second session this time concentrated on the forehead and eyes only. I didn't swell up nearly as much as he gave me better medication after I showed him a picture of how I had swollen up previously. To work at harsher laser intensity on my upper eyelids he had me wear metal shells over my eyeballs and he really cranked it up so bad that even with 4 opium pills I told him nervously it was at the limit of my pain threshold. This session took about as long to heal even without much swelling, possibly due to the more sensitive skin there. I was half price of the former one. It gave such good results that I am even hesitating to reach perfection with a final finishing session.
The alternative would have been blaperoplasty which is an expensive cosmetic surgery intervention which leaves most patients with quite an unnatural constant stare as if their eyes were left wide open. My results are very natural and cost a fraction of that with less risks, no general anesthesia and shorter recovery time. This use of Fraxel on the eyelids is rare and I was his first attempt. So it might be hard to replicate this procedure elsewhere. I do recommend it if you can get enough painkiller and you have a top notch specialist with magic hands. It is all about the skill of who is at the commands, they must both be expert in dosing the depth and the width of the laser beam rays. An error can be very dangerous especially near the eyes.
I plan to go in for a MILD final session for the eyelids and traces of remaining crow's feet wrinkles visible only when I squint my eyes. But I first need to know when we can safely place a metal protective shell on my eyeball which was just operated for Vision Enhancement.
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15 years 1 week ago #1269568996- Miracle8x7
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I'll look further.
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15 years 1 week ago #1269692397It has now been a month since my visit to his colleague at a leading glitzy laser treatment clinic with many other technological methods so that the rich and famous can look their best. There was no way around the higher prices of this location under the Eiffel Tower. Even in the States it was about the same due to the high cost of the machines they use. So I forked out 2000 euros (about $3000) for a three different procedures done on the same morning. A bit more than a third of this cost was for the radiotherapy treatment in this post. That cost is high but must be compared to the far higher surgical costs of the only alternative treatments. Here is what they did and my results after one month.
I was upset because I had lost a lot of weight and some of it was in the stomach. And since this area was far less full, it left me with a sagging skin which normally requires exorbitant abdomenoplasty which leaves horrible scars and takes months to heal while costing upwards of $5000. Instead what this doctor proposed is a treatment with a machine which bombards the abdomen with ultrasounds which destructure the tissues at various specific regularly spaced target points. This causes the abdomen to retract over a ten month period.
This is a fairly painful procedure yet my infamous pills did a lot to help me stay stoic and get them to dial in maximum power. Usually they do only a partial session for the 800 euros, with people needing to pay again to complete it. I was prepared enough and motivated, so they had finished an entire first pass at max power within the time it usually takes them to have patients let them do only a few points. The technician then went on to do a second pass which produced a bit more pain similar to electrical shocks, but I smiled with gritted teeth so she wouldn't give up, and then she summoned the doctor. They said this had never happened before so they'll finish it off with a medium depth signal to better break down the skin in its thickness. This third pass was soon over and we then verified that his other machines were not in use during that same Saturday morning, agreeing to move to further treatments.
I can conclude after only one month that this has already retracted my stomach to far more pleasant and natural proportions. I still have a mild bulge but it is rounded out without any folds or unsightly sags. Even if this was the final result I feel it would have been well worth the cost and pain. By the way the pain sequels lasted for several weeks of burning sensations and irritation, but I felt that it meant that the process was effective and still working away. This is now confirmed and I am happy to know it will keep on getting progressively better.
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15 years 1 week ago #1269755118- Miracle8x7
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That's encouraging news my friend. T injections would be my preference and I believe you are on the right track. Pellets would be next followed by transdermal gel. T and DHT are both potent androgens and should never be handled by women (especially pregnant or planning to become pregnant) or children. Most of my friends on TRT who are using Testim' wash the area well before engaging in sexual contact. I would take advantage of your GP's willingness to administer the free shot! Please share your experience with me. My T is 690 so I'm in no need for TRT just yet. Good to hear from you as always. Keep me in the loop.
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