--- title: "Morganstern Non-Surgical Length and Width - PhalloBoards - Phalloboards" description: "Do you guys have any feedback? morganstern.com/increase-penis-girth-length/ thanks in advance :-) - Page 2" url: "https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9843726-morganstern-non-surgical-length-and-width.html?start=15" date: "2026-08-06T21:33:30+00:00" language: "en-GB" --- PhalloBoards - An Online Community to Discuss Penile Girth Enhancement General Forum Doctors Forum Username Password Remember me - [ Forgot your password? ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/reset.html?Itemid=101) - [ Forgot your username? ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/remind.html?Itemid=101) - [ Create an account ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) # TOPIC: Morganstern Non-Surgical Length and Width ## Re: Morganstern Non-Surgical Length and Width 7 years 10 months ago [\#1305405047](#1305405047) - **[Herbert\_West](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4212657-herbert-west.html "View Herbert_West's Profile")** - [![Herbert_West's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4212657-herbert-west.html "View Herbert_West's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4212657-herbert-west.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 400 - Thanks: 3 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4212657) Yeah, but they forgot to say that length increase only in Flaccid state, not in Erect. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzk4NDM3MjYtbW9yZ2Fuc3Rlcm4tbm9uLXN1cmdpY2FsLWxlbmd0aC1hbmQtd2lkdGguaHRtbD9tYXJrZG93bj0xJnN0YXJ0PTE1) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Morganstern Non-Surgical Length and Width 7 years 10 months ago [\#1305403014](#1305403014) - **[Nyyanks85](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/5897299-nyyanks85.html "View Nyyanks85's Profile")** - [![Nyyanks85's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/5897299-nyyanks85.html "View Nyyanks85's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/5897299-nyyanks85.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 9 - Thanks: 2 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=5897299) When I spoke to them I was told they no longer offer that procedure, time for them to update their website! 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Great docs seen them both flawless procedure through and through. I was 6x5. Now 7x7. Been a great midlife journey I have spoken to a few guys on the phone who PMed me I think they all went there too. This really is not as big of deal as everyone makes it out to be couple injections in the Dick !!! The length is simple they have you stretch for 3 months then relax you, pull it forward and put perm filler to hold you forward kind like a reverse XY I gained a Inch between stretching, advancement and minor weight loss and ab toning not as drastic as XY plasty but no nerve loss I am 100% plus a Inch or 2 glad to respond to a few serious guys interested Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzk4NDM3MjYtbW9yZ2Fuc3Rlcm4tbm9uLXN1cmdpY2FsLWxlbmd0aC1hbmQtd2lkdGguaHRtbD9tYXJrZG93bj0xJnN0YXJ0PTE1) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Morganstern Non-Surgical Length and Width 7 years 10 months ago [\#1305536150](#1305536150) - **[tbone777](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/5478680-tbone777.html "View tbone777's Profile")** - [![tbone777's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/5478680-tbone777.html "View tbone777's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/5478680-tbone777.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 55 - Thanks: 1 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=5478680) Think, Would you please let us know the amount of daily pump is necessary to achieve a permanent size? Also, did you ask regarding the length procedure? I am skeptical the previous member were able to gain 1 inch in 3 months. thanks ![:-)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/emoticons/9.png ":-)") Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzk4NDM3MjYtbW9yZ2Fuc3Rlcm4tbm9uLXN1cmdpY2FsLWxlbmd0aC1hbmQtd2lkdGguaHRtbD9tYXJrZG93bj0xJnN0YXJ0PTE1) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Morganstern Non-Surgical Length and Width 7 years 10 months ago [\#1305399447](#1305399447) - **[Lexus27](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/2008135-lexus27.html "View Lexus27's Profile")** - [![Lexus27's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/2008135-lexus27.html "View Lexus27's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/2008135-lexus27.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 370 - Thanks: 0 - - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=2008135) It's still temporary with no permanent fillers. Didn't really see how the length increased. I must have missed it. I'll read it again. Results looks great though. 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I am still looking for one real length surgery done by Dr Morganstern online. I already google none of those 4,000 patient post a review online ![:-(](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/emoticons/4.png ":-(") Last edit: by [Dev\_Team](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/456-dev-team.html "View Dev_Team's Profile") Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzk4NDM3MjYtbW9yZ2Fuc3Rlcm4tbm9uLXN1cmdpY2FsLWxlbmd0aC1hbmQtd2lkdGguaHRtbD9tYXJrZG93bj0xJnN0YXJ0PTE1) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Morganstern Non-Surgical Length and Width 7 years 10 months ago [\#1308060589](#1308060589) - **[Dr\_Oates](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4460953-dr-oates.html "View Dr_Oates's Profile")** - [![Dr_Oates's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar4460953.jpg?1569480001)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4460953-dr-oates.html "View Dr_Oates's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4460953-dr-oates.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 688 - Thanks: 51 - - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4460953) You may get less shrinkage from the weight and elastic resistance when Flaccid. Nothing Erect. 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They do 20 ml of voluma for 7100, 20 ml Ellanse for 8400. 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Hey, thanks for that! I see why I missed it, as they're mixed in with other topics. Searching for his posts, I'm having a hard time figuring out how many sessions and ml he had... but I can see he was satisfied with them. 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Yeah, I had no luck with Email or filling out request forms on their outdated site... but calling and leaving 2 messages got me a call back, and a very productive discussion. Call them, ask for ray's voicemail and leave him a detailed message. 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Oh, and not sure if they actually advertise permanent Girth gains with non-permanent fillers because if they are... it is simply untrue. 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All were pleased but I think To bad none of them posted a report, I don't think I've heard any direct reports from that practice ... except wildcat but that was discussing FFT lump Removal and some help with ed... but still good word about morgansterns practice Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzk4NDM3MjYtbW9yZ2Fuc3Rlcm4tbm9uLXN1cmdpY2FsLWxlbmd0aC1hbmQtd2lkdGguaHRtbD9tYXJrZG93bj0xJnN0YXJ0PTE1) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Morganstern Non-Surgical Length and Width 7 years 10 months ago [\#1305439718](#1305439718) - **[Mustang2020](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1715850-mustang2020.html "View Mustang2020's Profile")** - [![Mustang2020's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1715850-mustang2020.html "View Mustang2020's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1715850-mustang2020.html) - Moderator - ![Moderator](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rankmod.gif) - Posts: 1795 - Thanks: 18 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1715850) Three month and 1" increase in EL is great. How did you get it? 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I've spoken to several guys who've had procedures through them . All were pleased but I think it's mainly HA they're doing - and lots of it. They're cranking these out and making a fortune. Also, consider that 4,000 procedures doesn't equal 4,000 patients when we're talking HA or FFT . I think their practice is legit but as always there is no panacea Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzk4NDM3MjYtbW9yZ2Fuc3Rlcm4tbm9uLXN1cmdpY2FsLWxlbmd0aC1hbmQtd2lkdGguaHRtbD9tYXJrZG93bj0xJnN0YXJ0PTE1) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Morganstern Non-Surgical Length and Width 7 years 10 months ago [\#1305431792](#1305431792) - **[think](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/5799362-think.html "View think's Profile")** - [![think's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar5799362.png?1575050907)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/5799362-think.html "View think's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/5799362-think.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 338 - Thanks: 13 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=5799362) > aces wrote: Just left Atlanta round 3 had 10ml voluma touch up I have had the non-surgical length done there too posted pictures etc before. Great docs seen them both flawless procedure through and through. I was 6x5. Now 7x7. Been a great midlife journey I have spoken to a few guys on the phone who PMed me I think they all went there too. This really is not as big of deal as everyone makes it out to be couple injections in the Dick !!! The length is simple they have you stretch for 3 months then relax you, pull it forward and put perm filler to hold you forward kind like a reverse XY I gained a Inch between stretching, advancement and minor weight loss and ab toning not as drastic as XY plasty but no nerve loss I am 100% plus a Inch or 2 glad to respond to a few serious guys interested Thanks for the feedback. When I spoke to them last week, they said they typically do 20ml the first session (I guess they sometimes change protocol/procedure based on feedback). I'd personally think doing 10 and 10 or 15 and 5 with a separate second session weeks later would be better than doing 20 at once. So adjustments can be made. Anyone have thoughts on that? Also, did you consider or discuss ellance vs voluma with them? For that, they do 10 ml and another 10 ml 8-12 weeks apart. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzk4NDM3MjYtbW9yZ2Fuc3Rlcm4tbm9uLXN1cmdpY2FsLWxlbmd0aC1hbmQtd2lkdGguaHRtbD9tYXJrZG93bj0xJnN0YXJ0PTE1) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. 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