--- title: "If you could do it all over again ... - PhalloBoards - Phalloboards" description: "New to the Forum, tons of great information. I'm an average size single fella in Atlanta and found this forum with some google... - Page 2" url: "https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9515980-if-you-could-do-it-all-over-again.html?start=15" date: "2026-08-06T14:53:06+00:00" language: "en-GB" --- PhalloBoards - An Online Community to Discuss Penile Girth Enhancement General Forum Doctors Forum Username Password Remember me - [ Forgot your password? ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/reset.html?Itemid=101) - [ Forgot your username? ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/remind.html?Itemid=101) - [ Create an account ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) # TOPIC: If you could do it all over again ... ## Re: If you could do it all over again ... 8 years 7 months ago [\#1302531692](#1302531692) - - !['s Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg) - Pending Email Verification - ![Pending Email Verification](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank2.gif) - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=5653724) How long did they say you have to wear stretching device each day? And how many months? What about wedge and having reaction to it being a foreign substance? Would consider this ,but skeptical of results. and doesn't seem practical wearing stretching device several hours per day Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzk1MTU5ODAtaWYteW91LWNvdWxkLWRvLWl0LWFsbC1vdmVyLWFnYWluLmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MSZzdGFydD0xNQ==) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: If you could do it all over again ... 8 years 7 months ago [\#1302672497](#1302672497) - **[PhalloBored](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/5766654-phallobored.html "View PhalloBored's Profile")** - [![PhalloBored's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/5766654-phallobored.html "View PhalloBored's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/5766654-phallobored.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 22 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=5766654) > VY (up to 2 inches) - Cuts to Suspensory and Deep Ligaments (I don't know if its partial or full) + skin bridge (1 Inch immediate) + 4 months stretching + detectable scar (1+ Inch above base) Has anyone heard of this or had it performed? I wonder if its worth the potential 2 inches in length? I'd imagine a ton of skeptics here Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzk1MTU5ODAtaWYteW91LWNvdWxkLWRvLWl0LWFsbC1vdmVyLWFnYWluLmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MSZzdGFydD0xNQ==) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: If you could do it all over again ... 8 years 7 months ago [\#1302094963](#1302094963) - **[rubberDucky](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/5766759-rubberducky.html "View rubberDucky's Profile")** - [![rubberDucky's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/5766759-rubberducky.html "View rubberDucky's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/5766759-rubberducky.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 5 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=5766759) Hey PhalloBored, I also considered FFT with Morganstern, largely for the same reason as you. After about a year of research, ended up getting round 1 with Dr. C last week. I could give you some more insight into how that decision was made if you're interested. For my personal specs, I'm confident it was the right decision. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzk1MTU5ODAtaWYteW91LWNvdWxkLWRvLWl0LWFsbC1vdmVyLWFnYWluLmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MSZzdGFydD0xNQ==) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: If you could do it all over again ... 8 years 7 months ago [\#1302638460](#1302638460) - **[PhalloBored](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/5766654-phallobored.html "View PhalloBored's Profile")** - [![PhalloBored's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/5766654-phallobored.html "View PhalloBored's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/5766654-phallobored.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 22 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=5766654) > randomword1234 wrote: How many ml/cc of volume in the shaft for $6000? I don't recall, I was personally more interested in the FFT Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzk1MTU5ODAtaWYteW91LWNvdWxkLWRvLWl0LWFsbC1vdmVyLWFnYWluLmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MSZzdGFydD0xNQ==) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: If you could do it all over again ... 8 years 7 months ago [\#1302531709](#1302531709) - **[Hunkydory01](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4520710-hunkydory01.html "View Hunkydory01's Profile")** - [![Hunkydory01's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4520710-hunkydory01.html "View Hunkydory01's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4520710-hunkydory01.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 540 - Thanks: 6 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4520710) I don't know what that means - but I'd want to see lots and lots of after pics with Erect gains and talk to someone who had it done. It doesn't sound healthy, not that any of this shit does, lol. My sense is that it is more bullshit but do your research. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzk1MTU5ODAtaWYteW91LWNvdWxkLWRvLWl0LWFsbC1vdmVyLWFnYWluLmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MSZzdGFydD0xNQ==) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: If you could do it all over again ... 8 years 7 months ago [\#1302630037](#1302630037) - **[PhalloBored](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/5766654-phallobored.html "View PhalloBored's Profile")** - [![PhalloBored's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/5766654-phallobored.html "View PhalloBored's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/5766654-phallobored.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 22 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=5766654) Phone call in to Dr. Morganstern, and got some info from a previous patient (Ray) who is working there now (very nice, very informative, took plenty of time on the phone with me). 2 Surgeries for Lengthening a. Standard (up to 1 Inch) - Partial Cut of Suspensory Ligaments + a wedge of tissue inserted (.5 inches immediate) + 4 months stretching + undetectable tiny scar b. VY (up to 2 inches) - Cuts to Suspensory and Deep Ligaments (I don't know if its partial or full) + skin bridge (1 Inch immediate) + 4 months stretching + detectable scar (1+ Inch above base) 2 Injections for Shaft Girth a. Voluma (up to 1.5 inches) - lasts up to 18 months then absorbs - doesn't need pumping (I think) b. FFT (up to 1.5 inches) - lasts up to permanent - needs 4 months pumping (3x per week) 1 Injection for Glans a. Voluma - small amount and last 6+ years (oldest injection performed was 6 years ago, patient says no absorption) - no pumping - cannot stretch for a while (glans vacuum cup would push voluma out) FFT comes with lipo (typically love handles) FFT can also come with cryogenics (keep extra fat if you want to come back without another lipo) You can customize your programs with any of the above Glans Voluma - $2,500 Shaft Voluma - $6,000 VY Length only- $9,600 Standard L+G (Length + Voluma or FFT) - $11,000 VY Plus - $13,000 VY is more invasive so they won't do VY plus Girth ... you have to wait for VY to heal before doing Girth Standard L+G is Length and Girth, you CAN do both at the same time, but you cannot do Glans until after your Stretching/Pumping is complete 20%+ come back for another round so cryogenic freezing of your fat can be done for more injections later I can't remember what VY Plus is, was trying to capture as much info as I could Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzk1MTU5ODAtaWYteW91LWNvdWxkLWRvLWl0LWFsbC1vdmVyLWFnYWluLmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MSZzdGFydD0xNQ==) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: If you could do it all over again ... 8 years 7 months ago [\#1302094244](#1302094244) - **[PhalloBored](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/5766654-phallobored.html "View PhalloBored's Profile")** - [![PhalloBored's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/5766654-phallobored.html "View PhalloBored's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/5766654-phallobored.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 22 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=5766654) > naginati wrote: Just realised this is a sneaky bastard way for us to do the work for him. lol I'm already 80% convinced to go with Dr. Morganstern since he is local. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzk1MTU5ODAtaWYteW91LWNvdWxkLWRvLWl0LWFsbC1vdmVyLWFnYWluLmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MSZzdGFydD0xNQ==) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: If you could do it all over again ... 8 years 7 months ago [\#1302531001](#1302531001) - **[PhalloBored](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/5766654-phallobored.html "View PhalloBored's Profile")** - [![PhalloBored's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/5766654-phallobored.html "View PhalloBored's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/5766654-phallobored.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 22 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=5766654) Here is the info for the lengthening [ phalloboards.websitetoolbox.com/post/sho...ount=12&forum=196670](http://phalloboards.websitetoolbox.com/post/show_single_post?pid=1297194284&postcount=12&forum=196670) > They don't do a lig cut but use a stretching device and then use a wedge to push the penis away from the pubic bone creating a permanent "stretch". Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzk1MTU5ODAtaWYteW91LWNvdWxkLWRvLWl0LWFsbC1vdmVyLWFnYWluLmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MSZzdGFydD0xNQ==) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: If you could do it all over again ... 8 years 7 months ago [\#1302633918](#1302633918) - **[randomword1234](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/5739881-randomword1234.html "View randomword1234's Profile")** - [![randomword1234's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/5739881-randomword1234.html "View randomword1234's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/5739881-randomword1234.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 137 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=5739881) How many ml/cc of volume in the shaft for $6000? Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzk1MTU5ODAtaWYteW91LWNvdWxkLWRvLWl0LWFsbC1vdmVyLWFnYWluLmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MSZzdGFydD0xNQ==) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: If you could do it all over again ... 8 years 7 months ago [\#1302093527](#1302093527) - **[Reklaw](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4324840-reklaw.html "View Reklaw's Profile")** - [![Reklaw's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4324840-reklaw.html "View Reklaw's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4324840-reklaw.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 1361 - Thanks: 3 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4324840) If I could do it all over again I'd go to Dr C for PMMA or Dr Oates for Ellanse and remained uncut. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzk1MTU5ODAtaWYteW91LWNvdWxkLWRvLWl0LWFsbC1vdmVyLWFnYWluLmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MSZzdGFydD0xNQ==) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: If you could do it all over again ... 8 years 7 months ago [\#1302288088](#1302288088) - **[jogift](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4364259-jogift.html "View jogift's Profile")** - [![jogift's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4364259-jogift.html "View jogift's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4364259-jogift.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 341 - Thanks: 4 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4364259) Hunky, they are dishonest about everything. There's a lady doctor who uses Gary Alter's photos for her webbing procedures (maybe the other way round?). Well, Gary Alter is well renowned though ... 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I would press the office for more info if you're still considering this route. I couldn't personally get anything out of them that convinced me. If anything, I found that the whole thing seemed more shady. Far too good to be true given the information available. What is your past experience with PE? If you're looking for more length, a lot of people believe at least an Inch is possible with a consistent stretching/Jelqing routine. I don't personally have experience with this but a plan of diet and exercise plus a year of manual length work might be a great way to prime yourself for a more reliable Girth procedure i.e. PMMA. Just my two cents. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzk1MTU5ODAtaWYteW91LWNvdWxkLWRvLWl0LWFsbC1vdmVyLWFnYWluLmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MSZzdGFydD0xNQ==) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: If you could do it all over again ... 8 years 7 months ago [\#1302093550](#1302093550) - **[naginati](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4881541-naginati.html "View naginati's Profile")** - [![naginati's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4881541-naginati.html "View naginati's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4881541-naginati.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 636 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4881541) Just realised this is a sneaky bastard way for us to do the work for him. lol Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzk1MTU5ODAtaWYteW91LWNvdWxkLWRvLWl0LWFsbC1vdmVyLWFnYWluLmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MSZzdGFydD0xNQ==) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: If you could do it all over again ... 8 years 7 months ago [\#1302292734](#1302292734) - **[Hunkydory01](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4520710-hunkydory01.html "View Hunkydory01's Profile")** - [![Hunkydory01's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4520710-hunkydory01.html "View Hunkydory01's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4520710-hunkydory01.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 540 - Thanks: 6 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4520710) There is no easy solution. If you haven't stuck with Hanging for more than a week why not assume that it is not that important to you and let it go? There is absolutely nothing easy about surgery on your penis. I have had 3 - not including PMMA and HA. You sound like you are looking for someone to hang the weights for you - not meant as an insult - I'd let it go. There are also no guarantees about screwing up your junk with anything you do. For every success story you hear, someone did the exact same thing and regrets they ever went down that path. I agree with Chester. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzk1MTU5ODAtaWYteW91LWNvdWxkLWRvLWl0LWFsbC1vdmVyLWFnYWluLmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MSZzdGFydD0xNQ==) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. 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