--- title: "Injection vs Graft - PhalloBoards - Phalloboards" description: "Hey guys, I'm looking at getting girth surgery next year but have been hit with the inevitable injection vs graft option. In my head, I feel like the graft..." url: "https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8356867-injection-vs-graft.html" date: "2026-08-06T17:44:03+00:00" language: "en-GB" --- PhalloBoards - An Online Community to Discuss Penile Girth Enhancement General Forum Doctors Forum Username Password Remember me - [ Forgot your password? ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/reset.html?Itemid=101) - [ Forgot your username? ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/remind.html?Itemid=101) - [ Create an account ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) # TOPIC: Injection vs Graft ## Re: Injection vs Graft 9 years 7 months ago [\#1294404359](#1294404359) - - !['s Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg) - Pending Email Verification - ![Pending Email Verification](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank2.gif) - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4792117) Also had FFT /stem cell procedure from Dr Maercks about 5 months ago. Took about 3 months to completely heal. Initial problems with curvature self corrected with time. Pleased with results so far. Went from 4.5 Erect Girth yo 5.5 inches. Would get a second round but too expensive for me now. I think it is $15,000 now. May see Dr Giunta because he is more affordable. But worry about long term problems of fat reabsorption? So far so good...but only 5 months. ..May go filler route instead with Dr Mata in Phoenix. I think 8-12 cc of juvederm voluma is between $7,000 yo $8,000 and lasts up to couple of years. Have consultation with him in february Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzgzNTY4NjctaW5qZWN0aW9uLXZzLWdyYWZ0Lmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MQ==) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Injection vs Graft 9 years 7 months ago [\#1294414087](#1294414087) - **[DrGKI](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4676607-drgki.html "View DrGKI's Profile")** - [![DrGKI's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4676607-drgki.html "View DrGKI's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4676607-drgki.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 4 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4676607) You are bing scammed! The best filler is your own fat and platelet rich plasma. We do this at Biltmore Restorative Medicine in Asheville all of the time. Second best would be dermal fillers. Surgery, though, is not the answer. George Ibrahim, MD Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzgzNTY4NjctaW5qZWN0aW9uLXZzLWdyYWZ0Lmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MQ==) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Injection vs Graft 9 years 7 months ago [\#1294416676](#1294416676) - **[chester](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4437325-chester.html "View chester's Profile")** - [![chester's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4437325-chester.html "View chester's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4437325-chester.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 808 - Thanks: 11 - - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4437325) Reklaw, to be fair, perhaps the good "doctor" is announcing his intention in his opening sentence. 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MegaFill is a complete scam I went to Dr Kim last year I know about 10 people who have been to Dr Kim and every single person is unhappy or severely depressed with there results. If you have a Foreskin Dr Kim will cut it off, even though his case manager will assure you otherwise, and his circumcisions are terrible. Type in MegaFill into the search bar of this forum. You need to read through the full MegaFill thread. You could do with reading through this forum for a couple of month before you decide on a procedure because you do don't seem to know what your talking about Also MegaFill is NOT permanent it last around 2 years but it doesn't wear off evenly and had left me with huge lumps of scar tissue on my shaft Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzgzNTY4NjctaW5qZWN0aW9uLXZzLWdyYWZ0Lmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MQ==) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Injection vs Graft 9 years 7 months ago [\#1294404204](#1294404204) - **[aamd82fo](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4630976-aamd82fo.html "View aamd82fo's Profile")** - [![aamd82fo's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4630976-aamd82fo.html "View aamd82fo's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4630976-aamd82fo.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 27 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4630976) I dont know Dr Kim and would advise not going internationally. However, I had alloderm inserted by both Dr Whitehead in NYC (RIP) and later Dr Reed in Miami. It worked well. Any questions, let me know. 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Dr Kim doesn't offer grafts because he knows they don't work, he just pretends to offer them. There is currently no material suitable as a graft to be placed between the skin and shaft. Plga scaffolds: Claims to be tissue engineering but in reality the plga doesn't really turn into tissue, it's either wears off or turns into rock hard scar tissue. Allograft/Megaderm: this will also wear off within a few years unevenly and will probably need surgery to remove it. Fat Grafts: can last a while but will die eventually and will need it removed, will also leave you with huge scarring. As you can see all the graft materials are bad but there no way near as bad as the delivery method used to get them in. Sugery and the penis just don't work. There was a guy who lost part of his pelvic bone due to a fat graft. One of our members had allografts he lost 2 Inch of length and got holes in the shaft of his penis, it sent him insane and he ended up cutting off a prostitutes head and now he's in prison. Tissue Necrosis and length loss are common complications with these procedures as much as 50% and that excludes the fact that your going to have to have it all surgically removed anyway. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzgzNTY4NjctaW5qZWN0aW9uLXZzLWdyYWZ0Lmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MQ==) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Injection vs Graft 9 years 7 months ago [\#1294351493](#1294351493) - **[hoddle10](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1704891-hoddle10.html "View hoddle10's Profile")** - [![hoddle10's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1704891-hoddle10.html "View hoddle10's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1704891-hoddle10.html) - Moderator - ![Moderator](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rankmod.gif) - Posts: 3120 - Thanks: 50 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1704891) > Dickwitman wrote: Wtf? Cut heads off? You gotta link to a story? That's fucked up To be fair, by PhalloBoards standards, it's not that weird. 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When did you have the procedure? 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Sugery and the penis just don't work. > There was a guy who lost part of his pelvic bone due to a fat graft. > One of our members had allografts he lost 2 Inch of length and got holes in the shaft of his penis, it sent him insane and he ended up cutting off a prostitutes head and now he's in prison. > Tissue Necrosis and length loss are common complications with these procedures as much as 50% and that excludes the fact that your going to have to have it all surgically removed anyway. Wtf? Cut heads off? You gotta link to a story? That's fucked up Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzgzNTY4NjctaW5qZWN0aW9uLXZzLWdyYWZ0Lmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MQ==) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Injection vs Graft 9 years 7 months ago [\#1294357203](#1294357203) - **[Jeph123](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4692209-jeph123.html "View Jeph123's Profile")** - [![Jeph123's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4692209-jeph123.html "View Jeph123's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4692209-jeph123.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 16 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4692209) Micro fat grafting works if done by the right plastic surgeon for Girth. My Erect Girth went from 5.5' in circumference to 6.5' usuing Dr. Maercks in Miami, Florida. Check him out. It's, $12,700. He transferred fat from my flanks. I'm totally over simplifying how he did it because he got into tons of explanation about lots of things surgeons don't that lead to the fat going away or problems or lack of symmetry etc. my money was well spent the women in my life agree. 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