--- title: "Best option right now?? New, well-informed, kinda confused, but too depressed to accept my dick - PhalloBoards - Phalloboards" description: "Hi people, I'm a 22 year old male. My penis is about 6 inch long and 4,7 inch around. I have some scarring which gave my penis a... - Page 2" url: "https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8316627-best-option-right-now-new-well-informed-kinda-confused-but-too-depressed-to-accept-my-dick.html?start=15" date: "2026-08-06T12:26:49+00:00" language: "en-GB" --- PhalloBoards - An Online Community to Discuss Penile Girth Enhancement General Forum Doctors Forum Username Password Remember me - [ Forgot your password? ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/reset.html?Itemid=101) - [ Forgot your username? ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/remind.html?Itemid=101) - [ Create an account ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) # TOPIC: Best option right now?? New, well-informed, kinda confused, but too depressed to accept my dick ## Re: Best option right now?? New, well-informed, kinda confused, but too depressed to accept my dick 9 years 8 months ago [\#1294021221](#1294021221) - **[hoddle10](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1704891-hoddle10.html "View hoddle10's Profile")** - [![hoddle10's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1704891-hoddle10.html "View hoddle10's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1704891-hoddle10.html) - Moderator - ![Moderator](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rankmod.gif) - Posts: 3120 - Thanks: 50 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1704891) > aleksk wrote: > Yes, I've thought about it a lot. I've thought about everything. > > Every year, a sizable part of your savings have to go on this. Instead of doing something really nice with that money, like travel the world. And every year, your result may be different. And that's an emotional roller-coaster. And you may need touch ups. And if you're in a long term relationship or any relationship you have to get creative in telling lies. > > And if you do this every year for many years I don't know what the trauma to your penis may mean for your Erection quality etc. Who wants to go to a doctor every so often and drop their pants and have canulas or needles injected in their penis? And then the uncertainty of how it's going to settle every single fucking time. > > And again the $$$$. > > It's all very depressing. But is there anything better? I, personally, do not see it. There is no one universal answer, as there are so many factors. For me PMMA seems like the better option. But I tried FFT, PLGA scaffolds, HA and waited 5 years before reaching that opinion. I learned a little from every experience and of course the passing of time changed me. I'm approaching 40 and realized I had to do something now or my life would pass me by. I can't continue to live depressed about my penis size, logging onto a forum all the time to talk with other guys with similar issues. Yes there are risks with PMMA, but are they really greater than the risks to my mental health by doing nothing? I concluded they weren't. Ultimately being obsessed with my penis size is terribly detrimental to my life and I don't think that issue would be resolved with a temp filler. 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New, well-informed, kinda confused, but too depressed to accept my dick 9 years 8 months ago [\#1294019187](#1294019187) - **[ll](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4753007-ll.html "View ll's Profile")** - [![ll's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4753007-ll.html "View ll's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4753007-ll.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 132 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4753007) > Skeptical One wrote: > Those are significant trade-offs. > > I'd take PMMA over any current option, including HA. HA has two major problems: it's not permanent, meaning you'll have to continuously top-off to retain size. And secondly, it doesn't nearly have the same palpable realness that your actual penis has...many describe as soft & squishy. If neither of these two factors are an issue for you, then sure HA is a good option. Otherwise I'd stick to the tried & true PMMA. Yes, they are. I have been searching for descriptions of Erection quality and am having a hard time finding them. In another thread member said his was a little softer but he was satisfied... I thought I saw one other person who also said they were satisfied, but I can't recall who it was. if I read "many" descriptions that called it "soft & squishy" I would probably change my thoughts on it. I was even considering starting a specific thead on HA and Erection quality to collect direct reports from those who have had it. I am somewhat interested in PMMA. I take it there may be a little more risk with PMMA? I also wish it were available as an option in the US. ~LL Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzgzMTY2MjctYmVzdC1vcHRpb24tcmlnaHQtbm93LW5ldy13ZWxsLWluZm9ybWVkLWtpbmRhLWNvbmZ1c2VkLWJ1dC10b28tZGVwcmVzc2VkLXRvLWFjY2VwdC1teS1kaWNrLmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MSZzdGFydD0xNQ==) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Best option right now?? New, well-informed, kinda confused, but too depressed to accept my dick 9 years 8 months ago [\#1294018693](#1294018693) - **[popopo](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4758392-popopo.html "View popopo's Profile")** - [![popopo's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4758392-popopo.html "View popopo's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4758392-popopo.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 11 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4758392) Thanks for your reply. I'm too afraid to try extenders and pumps again right now and I'd probably only gain what I lost at best and even though that would still be awesome, the chance of further damage is too big. On the other hand, surgery is probably even a bigger risk. May I ask what HA injections are? 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New, well-informed, kinda confused, but too depressed to accept my dick 9 years 8 months ago [\#1294019462](#1294019462) - **[jogift](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4364259-jogift.html "View jogift's Profile")** - [![jogift's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4364259-jogift.html "View jogift's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4364259-jogift.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 341 - Thanks: 4 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4364259) Some months back, after reading some of the more "terrible" reports about it, I was scared stiff about PMMA. Now, I begin to see it as the "ultimate" option. I wish guys could be more forthright in their reports, it took quite a while before the issue of "hardness and moveability" of HA started to be questioned. This author should do quite some research for himself and remember that there could be some sentiments leaning towards some procedures, especially where commerce and maybe finance are underlying concerns. When I just joined here, some members called me a "shithead newbie" because of the questions I asked. But I've learnt to read deeply through the threads and posts, sieving through the facts, the humour, the trivialties and sometimes outright shit! Coming to the conclusion in my first paragraph was due to researching like finding short-cuts in Fourier Series or Laplace Transforms for an upcoming exam. Good for me, otherwise I could already have gone to Dr Oates and later regretted the "hardness and moveability" factors now coming up. Cheers my brother, and the best of luck ... 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New, well-informed, kinda confused, but too depressed to accept my dick 9 years 8 months ago [\#1294023054](#1294023054) - **[chester](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4437325-chester.html "View chester's Profile")** - [![chester's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4437325-chester.html "View chester's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4437325-chester.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 808 - Thanks: 11 - - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4437325) Great thread. H10, thank you for sharing your personal journey. My precise sentiments over HA were validated here. HA is just a liquid that sits in your penis, whereas PMMA cultivates your own body to grow. My only concern is those plastic pellets. If only there was a shot that induced permanent collagen growth without those plastic pellets. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzgzMTY2MjctYmVzdC1vcHRpb24tcmlnaHQtbm93LW5ldy13ZWxsLWluZm9ybWVkLWtpbmRhLWNvbmZ1c2VkLWJ1dC10b28tZGVwcmVzc2VkLXRvLWFjY2VwdC1teS1kaWNrLmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MSZzdGFydD0xNQ==) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Best option right now?? New, well-informed, kinda confused, but too depressed to accept my dick 9 years 8 months ago [\#1294020498](#1294020498) - **[jogift](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4364259-jogift.html "View jogift's Profile")** - [![jogift's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4364259-jogift.html "View jogift's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4364259-jogift.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 341 - Thanks: 4 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4364259) A jig-saw piece would never give, in the slightest, an idea of the complete picture. The paragraph from which you quoted needs to be examined in its entirety to understand the context, scope and intention of the writer otherwise that little portion is completely misconstrued and lends to mischief. I was urging the author of the thread to do thorough research, mindful of "between the lines" sentiments and motives (remember that at one stage skeptical one himself was even accused of being Dr C!) and that all the parameters in your first paragraph can be reviewed at any point along the process of a research. Hence, I was for PMMA (grateful that I didn't fall victim to Dr Loria), later for HA and now back in favour of PMMA. It is still a fact that all the HA recipients have not been able to give direct answers to questions of firmness and moveability. Your statistical chart is subjective and inconclusive. Dr Oates is honest and open, yet he also did not answer the questions conclusively but is introducing Teosyal or something like that. Only guys who've done PMMA have answered so far. I'm still urging the brother to do deep research for his own sake and not be distracted by some of our show-off intelectual dissertations. I have just read hoddle10's post and to be sure, established conclusions cannot be superimposed on by a few events or raw data that have not been correlated or drawn unto a reliable graph from which analysis can be done, first by intrapolation then extrapolation. In other words, though HA has been around long, there is suspiciously little data to go on. The simple "dishonesty" in answering questions about it is enough discouragement for me. I again urge this brother to arrive at his own conclusions by researching the board then ask for advice once fortified with knowledge ... 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New, well-informed, kinda confused, but too depressed to accept my dick 9 years 8 months ago [\#1294024099](#1294024099) - **[buffdawg](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4560417-buffdawg.html "View buffdawg's Profile")** - [![buffdawg's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4560417-buffdawg.html "View buffdawg's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4560417-buffdawg.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 43 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4560417) > hoddle10 wrote: > > > I did notice a difference in Teosyal and Voluma. I can't remember the exact type of Teosyal I used, but I'm sure Hunkydory will remember, so I can ask him. I'd say Teosyal felt more like a graft, perhaps comparable to a mouse mat. It had more rigidity than Voluma. The downside was that it was harder to inject. Voluma came out of the canula much easier. Though I'm sure a wider canula could be used, but then maybe a stitch would be needed, but I'm not sure. Looks like Teosyal and Voluma Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzgzMTY2MjctYmVzdC1vcHRpb24tcmlnaHQtbm93LW5ldy13ZWxsLWluZm9ybWVkLWtpbmRhLWNvbmZ1c2VkLWJ1dC10b28tZGVwcmVzc2VkLXRvLWFjY2VwdC1teS1kaWNrLmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MSZzdGFydD0xNQ==) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Best option right now?? New, well-informed, kinda confused, but too depressed to accept my dick 9 years 8 months ago [\#1294025646](#1294025646) - **[jogift](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4364259-jogift.html "View jogift's Profile")** - [![jogift's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4364259-jogift.html "View jogift's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4364259-jogift.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 341 - Thanks: 4 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4364259) O K. Popopo, I "believe" that you should try to get some length back. Even if scarred, gentle pulling with an els40 or phallosan over a long period (say one year) could help. But it must be consistently for several hours a day. You do not need surgery. So,for Girth (related), you must do in-depth and extensive research here on this forum. You can have some marbles stitched unto your Dick to pleasurably stimulate your partner (don't laugh! Go to thread "Beading"), find out some about temporary fillers - techniques, physical and psychological effects, locations, costs etc. at example "Dr Mohammed Mirhza ...", "Dr Kim in Korea ..." For permanent fillers, down to earth and realistic information can be obtained from the Patient Support Category. Threads by smalljay, restoration, hoddle10 etc. Takes some time and patience, keeping an open but yet imaginative mind. Learn to sieve out the irrelevants, don't be thin-skinned so that you can enjoy some humour along the way and the best of luck ... 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New, well-informed, kinda confused, but too depressed to accept my dick 9 years 8 months ago [\#1294021039](#1294021039) - **[ll](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4753007-ll.html "View ll's Profile")** - [![ll's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4753007-ll.html "View ll's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4753007-ll.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 132 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4753007) > hoddle10 wrote: In the days post procedure I was about 6.25" Girth and my initial observation or thought, was how the hell am I supposed to get this into a girl? Honestly, I'm not lying when I say I just couldn't believe guys want to be that big as it seemed absurdly unpractical to me. A couple of days after that the swelling went away and it settled at about 5.75" (I swell a lot for some reason, even after just 4cc of PMMA). It was once the swelling went that I started having doubts about the suitability of HA. For the first time I could really feel the actual material and as much as I wanted to like it, it just didn't feel right. It was okay until I got really hard and then the contrast between my real penis and the HA became apparent to the point I knew I'd feel uncomfortable about a girl touching it. I also tried a condom on and when I rolled it down, it really showed how soft the HA was. What was your initial Erect Girth before the HA, and was 5.75 where it stayed until you had it removed? A 4.5" Girth gaining an Inch is different from someone at 5" gaining a 1/2" in depth of the filler between the skin and the CC. This may have a bigger impact on the degree of firmness noticable to the touch? ~LL Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzgzMTY2MjctYmVzdC1vcHRpb24tcmlnaHQtbm93LW5ldy13ZWxsLWluZm9ybWVkLWtpbmRhLWNvbmZ1c2VkLWJ1dC10b28tZGVwcmVzc2VkLXRvLWFjY2VwdC1teS1kaWNrLmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MSZzdGFydD0xNQ==) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Best option right now?? New, well-informed, kinda confused, but too depressed to accept my dick 9 years 8 months ago [\#1294026185](#1294026185) - **[jogift](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4364259-jogift.html "View jogift's Profile")** - [![jogift's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4364259-jogift.html "View jogift's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4364259-jogift.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 341 - Thanks: 4 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4364259) Do you agree about the marbles? It's good for him to read all these posts, however negative they may be. I shouldn't say it openly but sometimes it's good to scare the hell out of them so that they just leave themselves as they are! If not, well, they've been warned ... 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New, well-informed, kinda confused, but too depressed to accept my dick 9 years 8 months ago [\#1294018762](#1294018762) - **[Reklaw](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4324840-reklaw.html "View Reklaw's Profile")** - [![Reklaw's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4324840-reklaw.html "View Reklaw's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4324840-reklaw.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 1361 - Thanks: 3 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4324840) "Franklin Keuhhas seems caring" lol That's the funniest thing I've heard all day Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzgzMTY2MjctYmVzdC1vcHRpb24tcmlnaHQtbm93LW5ldy13ZWxsLWluZm9ybWVkLWtpbmRhLWNvbmZ1c2VkLWJ1dC10b28tZGVwcmVzc2VkLXRvLWFjY2VwdC1teS1kaWNrLmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MSZzdGFydD0xNQ==) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Best option right now?? New, well-informed, kinda confused, but too depressed to accept my dick 9 years 8 months ago [\#1294024404](#1294024404) - **[ll](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4753007-ll.html "View ll's Profile")** - [![ll's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4753007-ll.html "View ll's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4753007-ll.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 132 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4753007) > buffdawg wrote: > > Looks like Teosyal and Voluma Ah thanks, now I recall reading that last night, I must be still asleep because I completely forgot. ~LL Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzgzMTY2MjctYmVzdC1vcHRpb24tcmlnaHQtbm93LW5ldy13ZWxsLWluZm9ybWVkLWtpbmRhLWNvbmZ1c2VkLWJ1dC10b28tZGVwcmVzc2VkLXRvLWFjY2VwdC1teS1kaWNrLmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MSZzdGFydD0xNQ==) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Best option right now?? New, well-informed, kinda confused, but too depressed to accept my dick 9 years 8 months ago [\#1294041557](#1294041557) - **[jogift](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4364259-jogift.html "View jogift's Profile")** - [![jogift's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4364259-jogift.html "View jogift's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4364259-jogift.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 341 - Thanks: 4 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4364259) Read the thread "Grow your own penis." The last post by Herbert West has a link ... 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New, well-informed, kinda confused, but too depressed to accept my dick 9 years 8 months ago [\#1294020829](#1294020829) - **[hoddle10](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1704891-hoddle10.html "View hoddle10's Profile")** - [![hoddle10's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1704891-hoddle10.html "View hoddle10's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1704891-hoddle10.html) - Moderator - ![Moderator](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rankmod.gif) - Posts: 3120 - Thanks: 50 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1704891) > aleksk wrote: Thanks for sharing. I know you said you won't answer any questions, but I assume that refers to your recent PMMA experience as you're waiting to see how it will play out. > > Could you please answer a question about your dissatisfaction with Voluma/Teosyal as many of us are considering it and most of us don't personally know anyone who had it to have a conversation with them? > > - It felt wrong in what way? Was it too soft when Erect? Did you try to have sex with it? Was it an obstacle/issue during sex/penetration? Was it prone to movement? Did you notice any difference between Voluma and Teosyal in this respect or any other? > > Sure you would expect PMMA to integrate better with the underlying tissue than HA fillers. This is why I spent so much time researching Ellanse. This is why I've said so many times Voluma is stupid in the sense that it just fills and does nothing else. This is why almost all my posts are meant to invite people to research, explore and share thoughts and experiences about other fillers. > > I've also suggested your approach before - have very small quantities of a filler like Ellanse at a time until you reach a modest goal. Give it time to do its job, integrate and create new tissue before you go for more. > > You could say it is a sensible approach for any filler but especially bio stimulating fillers - not so much the stupid HA gamma of fillers where what you see is what you get. Even fat - how likely it is that 5 cc of fat at a time would result in the complications we see from fat injections? But the stupid 'what you see is what you get' characteristic of HA fillers is also a big advantage of theirs, in terms of you don't have to live a life where suddenly the filler decides to do something nasty and misshape your penis or even give you serious complications. The guy I referred to above says his injector did more than fine - his penis looked good for few weeks and he was very happy. Then the shit happened and now I feel sorry for him because he feels he is screwed for life. He doesn't have a recourse. He had a great looking Dick with a decent size and decided PMMA is a marvelous idea based on reading this forum exclusively. Obviously he only did selective reading. And now he'll have to live with the contour irregularities for the rest of his life and have every new partner question his shape/size every single time. I'd rather stay small than live that scenario for the rest of my life. > > So, please share if you could your experience with HA fillers and what your dissatisfaction stemmed from. > > The 'what is better - HA or PMMA' debate could not be objectively developed on this forum because we don't have a critical mass (or any mass for that matter) of men who have had HA. Hence, I ask you to please share more of your experience with HA. I'm pretty sure you were one of the people I told about my HA experience at the time I had it! I did notice a difference in Teosyal and Voluma. I can't remember the exact type of Teosyal I used, but I'm sure Hunkydory will remember, so I can ask him. I'd say Teosyal felt more like a graft, perhaps comparable to a mouse mat. It had more rigidity than Voluma. The downside was that it was harder to inject. Voluma came out of the canula much easier. Though I'm sure a wider canula could be used, but then maybe a stitch would be needed, but I'm not sure. In the days post procedure I was about 6.25" Girth and my initial observation or thought, was how the hell am I supposed to get this into a girl? Honestly, I'm not lying when I say I just couldn't believe guys want to be that big as it seemed absurdly unpractical to me. A couple of days after that the swelling went away and it settled at about 5.75" (I swell a lot for some reason, even after just 4cc of PMMA). It was once the swelling went that I started having doubts about the suitability of HA. For the first time I could really feel the actual material and as much as I wanted to like it, it just didn't feel right. It was okay until I got really hard and then the contrast between my real penis and the HA became apparent to the point I knew I'd feel uncomfortable about a girl touching it. I also tried a condom on and when I rolled it down, it really showed how soft the HA was. I did think that the problem could have been that I had too much, so I started again and this time just went up by 0.4". I think it was slightly better, but again it still just didn't have the rigidity. I think part of the problem is because I have visible scars from other procedures I don't want anything in my penis that may cause sexual partners to think it's not natural. So maybe I'm harder to please than others who have had HA are. So far I'd say PMMA feels much better. I don't want to say much about my approach as I'm super cautious and don't want to tempt fate. But at the moment, my current thinking is that if you approach it a bit at time, you are unlikely to have aesthetic issues. I really hate saying this as I don't want it to come back to bite me on the ass, but I can't see someone running into the issues the guy you mentioned has, if one takes a similarly cautious approach. The trouble is, I can't see many being prepared to do so, maybe only those who have been scarred in the past. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzgzMTY2MjctYmVzdC1vcHRpb24tcmlnaHQtbm93LW5ldy13ZWxsLWluZm9ybWVkLWtpbmRhLWNvbmZ1c2VkLWJ1dC10b28tZGVwcmVzc2VkLXRvLWFjY2VwdC1teS1kaWNrLmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MSZzdGFydD0xNQ==) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Best option right now?? New, well-informed, kinda confused, but too depressed to accept my dick 9 years 8 months ago [\#1294021106](#1294021106) - **[hoddle10](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1704891-hoddle10.html "View hoddle10's Profile")** - [![hoddle10's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1704891-hoddle10.html "View hoddle10's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1704891-hoddle10.html) - Moderator - ![Moderator](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rankmod.gif) - Posts: 3120 - Thanks: 50 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1704891) > ll wrote: What was your initial Erect Girth before the HA, and was 5.75 where it stayed until you had it removed? A 4.5" Girth gaining an Inch is different from someone at 5" gaining a 1/2" in depth of the filler between the skin and the CC. This may have a bigger impact on the degree of firmness noticable to the touch? > > ~LL I varied from 5" to 4.75". So I gained between an 0.75" and an Inch. It stayed at 5.75" for maybe a month, I can't remember exactly and then I dissolved it. But I had another go with just a 0.4" gain and it still wasn't for me. Something else i noted that made me realize it wasn't for me was because it was temporary, it didn't feel like I could relax about my penis size issues. I kept measuring in case it was dissolving and it was also on my mind what I'd do if I got into a relationship and would I be able afford to maintain it etc. You'll be bruised and swollen for a week or two, so you have to factor in having that once a year, so if you are in a relationship, you might have to come clean. Personally I don't think I could do that, as this insecurity is a really big deal to me. Also the process can ware you down. I just want it all over and done with and can't face trying to maintain something. I want to move on in life and not think about PE anymore. I look forward to a time when I don't have to log onto PB's several times per day. I know Hunkydory went through a similar thought process, hence he deleted his account (though he's since come back!) Again it's horses for courses. Guys that aren't that insecure about their size etc wont need to worry about it, but those of us who have real size hang ups, might find a temp solution doesn't totally alleviate their anxiety. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzgzMTY2MjctYmVzdC1vcHRpb24tcmlnaHQtbm93LW5ldy13ZWxsLWluZm9ybWVkLWtpbmRhLWNvbmZ1c2VkLWJ1dC10b28tZGVwcmVzc2VkLXRvLWFjY2VwdC1teS1kaWNrLmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MSZzdGFydD0xNQ==) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. 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