--- title: "Ligament cut procedure, or waste of money? - PhalloBoards - Phalloboards" description: "Hi, I am new here, but I am from Thunder's Place, a "phallobuilder". I am reading and reading, and I cannot see too much... - Page 2" url: "https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/7763917-ligament-cut-procedure-or-waste-of-money.html?start=15" date: "2026-08-06T18:50:50+00:00" language: "en-GB" --- PhalloBoards - An Online Community to Discuss Penile Girth Enhancement General Forum Doctors Forum Username Password Remember me - [ Forgot your password? ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/reset.html?Itemid=101) - [ Forgot your username? ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/remind.html?Itemid=101) - [ Create an account ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) # TOPIC: Ligament cut procedure, or waste of money? ## Re: Ligament cut procedure, or waste of money? 10 years 9 months ago [\#1289619826](#1289619826) - **Dr Oates** - ![Dr Oates's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg) Topic Author - Pending Email Verification - ![Pending Email Verification](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank2.gif) - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4270999) Maybe an exception? Who knows... Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzc3NjM5MTctbGlnYW1lbnQtY3V0LXByb2NlZHVyZS1vci13YXN0ZS1vZi1tb25leS5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MTU=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Ligament cut procedure, or waste of money? 10 years 9 months ago [\#1289639560](#1289639560) - **Dr Oates** - ![Dr Oates's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg) Topic Author - Pending Email Verification - ![Pending Email Verification](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank2.gif) - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4270999) I don't understand you, kreungdd. What did you mean? I don't discard PMMA, to be honest. Maybe, when i finish my stretching time, think one round... Maybe. I learn about PMMA anyways, and we will see. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzc3NjM5MTctbGlnYW1lbnQtY3V0LXByb2NlZHVyZS1vci13YXN0ZS1vZi1tb25leS5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MTU=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Ligament cut procedure, or waste of money? 10 years 9 months ago [\#1289618836](#1289618836) - **Dr Oates** - ![Dr Oates's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg) Topic Author - Pending Email Verification - ![Pending Email Verification](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank2.gif) - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4270999) Wish i can get 8" just by stretching. Time is key, and discipline. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzc3NjM5MTctbGlnYW1lbnQtY3V0LXByb2NlZHVyZS1vci13YXN0ZS1vZi1tb25leS5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MTU=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Ligament cut procedure, or waste of money? 10 years 9 months ago [\#1289634720](#1289634720) - **Dr Oates** - ![Dr Oates's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg) Topic Author - Pending Email Verification - ![Pending Email Verification](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank2.gif) - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4270999) KFH, thank you for your words. Definitely i will keep away from ligament cut, just stretching. Hope i can reach 1" Inch in the next two years. 8'5x6'5 is my perfect goal. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzc3NjM5MTctbGlnYW1lbnQtY3V0LXByb2NlZHVyZS1vci13YXN0ZS1vZi1tb25leS5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MTU=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Ligament cut procedure, or waste of money? 10 years 9 months ago [\#1289610409](#1289610409) - **Dr Oates** - ![Dr Oates's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg) Topic Author - Pending Email Verification - ![Pending Email Verification](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank2.gif) - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4270999) Also I think a round of PMMA would be perfect for my unit, because my glans will be equal to the new size, uniform. But I am here for learning and reading about PMMA, if it is safier in the long term, etc... Also your replies are welcome. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzc3NjM5MTctbGlnYW1lbnQtY3V0LXByb2NlZHVyZS1vci13YXN0ZS1vZi1tb25leS5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MTU=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Ligament cut procedure, or waste of money? 10 years 9 months ago [\#1289615024](#1289615024) - **[Mustang2020](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1715850-mustang2020.html "View Mustang2020's Profile")** - [![Mustang2020's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1715850-mustang2020.html "View Mustang2020's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1715850-mustang2020.html) - Moderator - ![Moderator](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rankmod.gif) - Posts: 1795 - Thanks: 18 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1715850) Is your desire to get larger due to ladies making comments on your size? or is it ego as you mention in your post? or both? Looks like you have good EQ and tight penile skin, it is possible that if you get PMMA, it will show any bumps and dips easily unless you go with 10% where the gains are minimum, hence you will need a few rounds... You may end up chasing your tail.... Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzc3NjM5MTctbGlnYW1lbnQtY3V0LXByb2NlZHVyZS1vci13YXN0ZS1vZi1tb25leS5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MTU=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Ligament cut procedure, or waste of money? 10 years 9 months ago [\#1289662386](#1289662386) - - !['s Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg) - Pending Email Verification - ![Pending Email Verification](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank2.gif) - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4066349) Is this real life? You've got to be trolling us. If I was attached to that Dick, I wouldn't even know this website existed. I wouldn't waste one more second of my life on penis enlargment boards. Bro, your blessed. Go enjoy your life. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzc3NjM5MTctbGlnYW1lbnQtY3V0LXByb2NlZHVyZS1vci13YXN0ZS1vZi1tb25leS5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MTU=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Ligament cut procedure, or waste of money? 10 years 9 months ago [\#1289612735](#1289612735) - **Dr Oates** - ![Dr Oates's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg) Topic Author - Pending Email Verification - ![Pending Email Verification](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank2.gif) - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4270999) Yes, you are right. Maybe if you, hunkydory, gained in lenght after the procedure, let me tell you there are two ways for stretching. Downward, more emphasis on ligaments, and upward, more emphasis on the tunica. So if you say you hanged, which is downward position, i think your ligament cut enhanced your Erect gains. My Erect gains were by stretching upward, emphasis on the tunica, twleve on the clock. So, if i consider the procedure, after that, i must stretch downward, sounds logical. To be honest, i think if most patients suffer retraction, the cause can be because they don't do things right, they are not disciplined with the post work. But maybe i am wrong, i speak from what i've read in Thunder's Place. I am still learning and reading here, but there are too many threads, so if you can link me some interest threads of this procedure, cases, etc. I would appreciate. I think that procedure can give me the final step in my lenght career. But, i culd be wrong, that's why i ask you, masters. Regarding to PMMA, no way, no? I know i have a fat Dick, but i will read more about that and let's see if an unique round would give me more bads than goods. Anyways, i love to clamp, so i can scratch more little gains in the future, who knows. By the way, i am not gay, it is all about ego. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzc3NjM5MTctbGlnYW1lbnQtY3V0LXByb2NlZHVyZS1vci13YXN0ZS1vZi1tb25leS5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MTU=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Ligament cut procedure, or waste of money? 10 years 9 months ago [\#1289726937](#1289726937) - **Dr Oates** - ![Dr Oates's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg) Topic Author - Pending Email Verification - ![Pending Email Verification](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank2.gif) - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4270999) I do what i do because i like, and want more, yes. What is wrong with that? There are people outthere with Hercules muscles bodies, and still want more. There are people who are so pretty, and still want to be more. There are people who have tons of money, and still want MORE. I want a bigger penis, that's all, that simple. Just the last shot to get into the 0'01% of big guys, for my self confidence. But i am not sick with my Dick, don't get me wrong. I am very happy with my life, just want a little bigger penis. Even considering one PMMA round, but i have to read a lot about the risks. I am on the correct web. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzc3NjM5MTctbGlnYW1lbnQtY3V0LXByb2NlZHVyZS1vci13YXN0ZS1vZi1tb25leS5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MTU=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Ligament cut procedure, or waste of money? 10 years 9 months ago [\#1289612761](#1289612761) - **[briceb](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1725992-briceb.html "View briceb's Profile")** - [![briceb's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar1725992.jpg?1571843684)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1725992-briceb.html "View briceb's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1725992-briceb.html) - Moderator - ![Moderator](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rankmod.gif) - Posts: 1484 - Thanks: 17 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1725992) If anything, I would probably try stretching. Get something like ESL40 or The Grip System. Give those a shot. I would tell you the same thing the other guys have, there are no certainties with PMMA and if you only want to gain .25" I do not think it is worth the risk. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzc3NjM5MTctbGlnYW1lbnQtY3V0LXByb2NlZHVyZS1vci13YXN0ZS1vZi1tb25leS5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MTU=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Ligament cut procedure, or waste of money? 10 years 9 months ago [\#1289629150](#1289629150) - **[KFH](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1744414-kfh.html "View KFH's Profile")** - [![KFH's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1744414-kfh.html "View KFH's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1744414-kfh.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 131 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1744414) I've had the procedure done and in my personal opinion Ligamentolysis is for Flaccid gains. These gains are mostly seen as the Flaccid penis hangs, not when lifted parallel to the floor and measured. However, having your ligs cut could aid Hanging and extending post-op, but this is hard to prove. I gained .75" (1.9cm) by extending for 872 hours over an 8 month period averaging 5 hours a day. When I compare my gains to others in a study who extended for the same amount hours (900 hours for 10-12 hours a day) only 1 person out of 17 gained more than me and he gained 3cm to my 1.9cm. Most of those who extended for 900 hours gained 1.5cm. Even though they extended more hours a day, I was extending at a high intensity (which I wouldn't recommend). I also only started extending nearly three years after the procedure so scar tissue may have actually negated the potential benefits of Ligamentolysis for extending or Hanging. It's difficult to give you a clear and definitive answer. Also, your stats are brilliant. If I were you I would go no where near the knife or needle. Best of luck. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzc3NjM5MTctbGlnYW1lbnQtY3V0LXByb2NlZHVyZS1vci13YXN0ZS1vZi1tb25leS5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MTU=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Ligament cut procedure, or waste of money? 10 years 9 months ago [\#1289614048](#1289614048) - **Dr Oates** - ![Dr Oates's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg) Topic Author - Pending Email Verification - ![Pending Email Verification](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank2.gif) - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4270999) In fact, discussions at there, are because of a theory, the LOT theory. But, in my opinion, at the end of the day, the important thing is to stretch your penis for hours and hours and hours per day, during months or even years. I don't know what to do with the procedure. Time for reading a little bit. Any help is welcome. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzc3NjM5MTctbGlnYW1lbnQtY3V0LXByb2NlZHVyZS1vci13YXN0ZS1vZi1tb25leS5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MTU=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Ligament cut procedure, or waste of money? 10 years 9 months ago [\#1289618151](#1289618151) - **Dr Oates** - ![Dr Oates's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg) Topic Author - Pending Email Verification - ![Pending Email Verification](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank2.gif) - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4270999) Mustang 2020, the desire is motivated just by ego, i have a girlfriend since years, she loves my unit, and it's difficult rough sex without proper warmup, which i think is key in sex. I want more larger for my own satisfaction, because if my Dick can do his best, why not? A little better version of us. Question here, if ligament surgery will allow more EL easily or not, and just keep stretching during the next two years, and save my money. New1inch, my stats before PEing were like 6'8 or 7" lenght and 5'8 Girth. I started in 2011, but lots of breaks. I can say my serious gains started in 2014, when i decided doing strict PE. Seems like nobody recommend ligament cut, while i don't see it much dangerous, maybe i am wrong. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzc3NjM5MTctbGlnYW1lbnQtY3V0LXByb2NlZHVyZS1vci13YXN0ZS1vZi1tb25leS5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MTU=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Ligament cut procedure, or waste of money? 10 years 9 months ago [\#1289628392](#1289628392) - **[Herbert\_West](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4212657-herbert-west.html "View Herbert_West's Profile")** - [![Herbert_West's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4212657-herbert-west.html "View Herbert_West's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4212657-herbert-west.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 400 - Thanks: 3 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4212657) > I don't think so, look at lig cut in Moscow. That Dr uses a different type of method. Dr. Petrovich uses "standard" method of suspensory ligament cutting, but he does it via scrotum and he says that it gives a better results, than standart pubic lig cutting Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzc3NjM5MTctbGlnYW1lbnQtY3V0LXByb2NlZHVyZS1vci13YXN0ZS1vZi1tb25leS5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MTU=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Ligament cut procedure, or waste of money? 10 years 9 months ago [\#1289726962](#1289726962) - **Dr Oates** - ![Dr Oates's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg) Topic Author - Pending Email Verification - ![Pending Email Verification](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank2.gif) - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4270999) Bdog, i did stretching, and gained about 0'5 EL, during 6 strict months or so. And did, and do, jelquing and Clamping for Girth. Now I am going to stretch and hang for two years. I want my 8" NBP lenght. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzc3NjM5MTctbGlnYW1lbnQtY3V0LXByb2NlZHVyZS1vci13YXN0ZS1vZi1tb25leS5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MTU=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. 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