TOPIC: PMMA Pricing Conversation

But dcpimpin the reason Dr C isn't treated like Loria, Krakovsky or Elist is because he didn't seek out this site as a an avenue of marketing that he didn't have to pay for. I think his business has benefited greatly from PhalloBoards but he has done absolutely nothing to solicit this. The reason for his popularity is purely down to PhalloBoards members. It started with a post by Envisionmore and then GSX was the first pioneer. After that it simply snowballed. Virtually all the PMMA research was done by our members, so we "sold" the procedure to ourselves. All the progress reports were volunteered by our members at the request of other members. Dr C himself had nothing to do with any of this. He's a benefactor certainly, but he didn't come on here touting for business, using shills and shady surgical brokers. I'm sure his prices did go up due to the demand thanks to this site, but he's just reacting to market forces and seeing as he didn't do anything to actively try and promote himself, then he's done nothing wrong in my opinion. Also his prices are lower than Dr N in Prague and I think Dr Passy. So of the 3 main PMMA Dr's spoken about on this site, he is still the cheapest. Also, if you remember when the procedure first started being discussed he said he's use between 10-12cc of PMMA. Now he routinely uses 25cc +.

I can't speak on SO's behalf, but I suspect he'd strongly be against any financial relationship between PhalloBoards and any Dr. Even if it's something simple like a discount for our members. The whole he reason he set up the forum is because he and others we absolutely sick to death of being mislead by information found on forums who had financial relationships with certain Dr's. It's imperative that the site remains totally impartial. We don't want situations, for example, when members would become hesitant about criticizing Dr C or asking probing questions if they thought it could cause for him to get annoyed and withdraw his PhalloBoards discount.

SpankAss wrote:

briceb wrote:

dcpimpin12 wrote: Yea but lets face it he dont have a high a demand for the other procedures. most of his patient are for penile enhancement. there might be a few a very few for other procedures.

What makes you say he does not have a demand for other procedures?
If, according to some, this site is responsible for his high demand for penis enlargement, then what did he do before this board got to where it is now? Yep, his other services.

ofc course he had other services but not to the demand that PMMA has

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But this is what he was known for! When PMMA first came along and many of our members were researching it, Dr C continually came up as one of, if not the, most renowned PMMA Dr in the world. One of the main resources for research we HIV forums and they are full of posts about Dr C's work. All that has changed is due to PhalloBoards he's now getting loads of penis enlargement patients.

I think you just want to moan for the sake of it. You've been told that the price of PMMA has risen and that he now uses about twice as much per procedure. So given that, why are you still complaining? If you read makemeheal there are a couple of guys who had PE with Dr C before PhalloBoards and they both had 10cc per round. Our first pioneer, GSX, received 12cc. Yet thesedays it's rare that guys get under 20cc. Surely you can see that he's using double the amount, so why shouldn't he charge more? Also, I've pointed out he's still cheaper than the other 2 PMMA Dr's we regularly discuss.



There is one price related issue that I think is worth discussing though and that is second round "touch up" procedures. I don't think it's acceptable that corrective procedures have a limited amount of CC's (5 I believe). Personally I think this is totally wrong and something Dr C should change, without raising the price. If a guy wants more size then of course he should pay for whole second round. However, it all the patient wants is to correct issues from the first procedure, then that patient should receive as many CCs as needed to get the best result Dr C possibly can. Every now and again we see patients being told that Dr C has suggested a full second round in order to totally correct their issues. I really think this has to change. If they aren't requesting more size, then, in my opinion, Dr C should be obligated to fix the problems for the "touch up" price.

hoddle10 wrote:

SpankAss wrote:

briceb wrote:

dcpimpin12 wrote: Yea but lets face it he dont have a high a demand for the other procedures. most of his patient are for penile enhancement. there might be a few a very few for other procedures.

What makes you say he does not have a demand for other procedures?
If, according to some, this site is responsible for his high demand for penis enlargement, then what did he do before this board got to where it is now? Yep, his other services.

ofc course he had other services but not to the demand that PMMA has

hoddle10 wrote: But this is what he was known for! When PMMA first came along and many of our members were researching it, Dr C continually came up as one of, if not the, most renowned PMMA Dr in the world. One of the main resources for research we HIV forums and they are full of posts about Dr C's work. All that has changed is due to PhalloBoards he's now getting loads of penis enlargement patients.

hoddle10 wrote: I think you just want to moan for the sake of it. You've been told that the price of PMMA has risen and that he now uses about twice as much per procedure. So given that, why are you still complaining? If you read makemeheal there are a couple of guys who had PE with Dr C before PhalloBoards and they both had 10cc per round. Our first pioneer, GSX, received 12cc. Yet thesedays it's rare that guys get under 20cc. Surely you can see that he's using double the amount, so why shouldn't he charge more? Also, I've pointed out he's still cheaper than the other 2 PMMA Dr's we regularly discuss.

hoddle10 wrote: There is one price related issue that I think is worth discussing though and that is second round "touch up" procedures. I don't think it's acceptable that corrective procedures have a limited amount of CC's (5 I believe). Personally I think this is totally wrong and something Dr C should change, without raising the price. If a guy wants more size then of course he should pay for whole second round. However, it all the patient wants is to correct issues from the first procedure, then that patient should receive as many CCs as needed to get the best result Dr C possibly can. Every now and again we see patients being told that Dr C has suggested a full second round in order to totally correct their issues. I really think this has to change. If they aren't requesting more size, then, in my opinion, Dr C should be obligated to fix the problems for the "touch up" price.

yes other doctors might be a little more expensive but in the us... tijuana is known for being cheaper. i mean u go to a dentist over here in the united states and the bill is so high. u go to a dentist in tijuana is way cheaper. even taxi drivers are cheaper in tijuana. plastic surgery is cheaper in tijuana. so PMMA should be cheaper in tijuana. people have to buy plane tickets, hotel, etc... if u go to tijuana for PMMA u wil spend just as much over all as going to a doc that charges 6 thousand. so is it worth the trip? doctors in tijuana have to realize that people coming from out of the country look for special deals to make it worth their trip.

Here we have a WIN-WIN situation (successful and profitable PMMA surgery with Dr. C and patient's satisfaction) in regards to one of the most controversial medical procedures (PE) and "SOME" people are complaining about a business practice, price increase.

Surgical PE has had perhaps the worst success record so far, and this PMMA procedure with Dr. C has had the best outcomes, while I understand it, there is a debate about the high price increase.

I really think Dr. C is a very caring person (also Nurse Wade and the staff) but that does not mean he will not practice sound business and selfish actions to make more money, heck we all will do that given the opportunity...

I think some of us here need to accept the fact that Dr C is a good guy and he makes a profit doing his business.

I think it is 10 CC for a touch up and anything above that is a full session....I think!