--- title: "The Implantee Manifesto Against Dr. Elist's Silicone Implant - PhalloBoards - Phalloboards" description: "Implantee: Bostonman5555 Implanted: 2011, 2012 Implant Removed: 2013 (Dr. Solomon) Costs: $3,000 in airfare, rental car and hotel,... - Page 3" url: "https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/6296789-the-implantee-manifesto-against-dr-elists-silicone-implant.html?start=30" date: "2026-08-06T12:26:48+00:00" language: "en-GB" --- PhalloBoards - An Online Community to Discuss Penile Girth Enhancement General Forum Doctors Forum Username Password Remember me - [ Forgot your password? ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/reset.html?Itemid=101) - [ Forgot your username? ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/remind.html?Itemid=101) - [ Create an account ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) # TOPIC: The Implantee Manifesto Against Dr. Elist's Silicone Implant ## Re: The Implantee Manifesto Against Dr. Elist's Silicone Implant 13 years 3 months ago [\#1289412547](#1289412547) - **[Shyguy](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4253051-shyguy.html "View Shyguy's Profile")** - [![Shyguy's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4253051-shyguy.html "View Shyguy's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4253051-shyguy.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 3 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4253051) Hello all, I'm new to the site and am very glad I seen this before I got any kind of surgery. It seems like enlists rigid implant isn't a good option. What kind of horror stories have come from the alloderm or belloderm implanting? Also, has anyone heard of anyone working on a more dynamic implant such as a saline or silicone filled implant that wraps around the penis and becomes rigid when the penis is Erect? This seems like it would solve the problems from both the enlist and grafting implants. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzYyOTY3ODktdGhlLWltcGxhbnRlZS1tYW5pZmVzdG8tYWdhaW5zdC1kci1lbGlzdHMtc2lsaWNvbmUtaW1wbGFudC5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MzA=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: The Implantee Manifesto Against Dr. Elist's Silicone Implant 13 years 3 months ago [\#1285025731](#1285025731) - **[TheDane](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/2009373-thedane.html "View TheDane's Profile")** - [![TheDane's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/2009373-thedane.html "View TheDane's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/2009373-thedane.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 48 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=2009373) The best man to remove the implant and reduce damage is Elist himself. He gave me a good Removal. Its gonna cost you over 4 k anyway, so why not pay it to Elist ? other doctors dont have the same experience. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzYyOTY3ODktdGhlLWltcGxhbnRlZS1tYW5pZmVzdG8tYWdhaW5zdC1kci1lbGlzdHMtc2lsaWNvbmUtaW1wbGFudC5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MzA=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: The Implantee Manifesto Against Dr. Elist's Silicone Implant 13 years 3 months ago [\#1291825354](#1291825354) - **[briceb](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1725992-briceb.html "View briceb's Profile")** - [![briceb's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar1725992.jpg?1571843684)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1725992-briceb.html "View briceb's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1725992-briceb.html) - Moderator - ![Moderator](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rankmod.gif) - Posts: 1484 - Thanks: 17 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1725992) > longrangebomber wrote: you paid $13k for implant, have no pain or discomfort, read some threads and now want it out? doesn't make any sense to me..........yet > > I think you ought to at least try and see what happens - you've already bit the bullet - why not follow instructions, take it easy and see how it turns out? Maybe the thought of the implant rupturing through the skin, Sutures ripping out, deformation, scarring, length loss, unnatural look and feeling, etc. were enough to make him second guess his decision... Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzYyOTY3ODktdGhlLWltcGxhbnRlZS1tYW5pZmVzdG8tYWdhaW5zdC1kci1lbGlzdHMtc2lsaWNvbmUtaW1wbGFudC5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MzA=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: The Implantee Manifesto Against Dr. Elist's Silicone Implant 13 years 3 months ago [\#1286131146](#1286131146) - **[JazzyJ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1840735-jazzyj.html "View JazzyJ's Profile")** - [![JazzyJ's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1840735-jazzyj.html "View JazzyJ's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1840735-jazzyj.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 241 - Thanks: 25 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1840735) > dcpimpin12 wrote: > tom kat wrote: > dcpimpin12 wrote: u can also try dr Mark Solomon I read he removed a elist implant before also. me personaly have a bad experience with dr Camacho. > > > > > > wht happended with dr camacho that you had bad experience? > > > sorry tom kat didn't meant to ignore ur question I guess I didn't see it. but I have my full story about the infection from dr Camacho on my thread. [ phalloboards.websitetoolbox.com/post/goi...na-6589599?&trail=15](http://phalloboards.websitetoolbox.com/post/going-in-for-surgery-in-tijuana-6589599?&trail=15) Haven't been on this site for quite a while. Still.seeing guys going thru this surgery with Dr Elist the Butcher of Beverly Hills. I remember reading about the guy from Dubai & still ignored the cautions, but there wasn't as many negative stories out here as there is now. Thing is, even tho my erect penis size was 5x5, I could live with that, I use to have good sex with my gf, problem was my flaccid length. I couldn't stand how small it was since I'm a grower. I rather have a flaccid penis that's 5 inches in length & not much growth than a damn small ass 2.5 inch in length flaccid penis. I would never have met this psychotic doctor if I had a flaccid 4 to 5 inch penis. My insecurities & embarrassments drove me into his hands & scalpel. I hope he gets sued & goes out of business. Knowing this clown, he will open another business in another country for desperate men. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzYyOTY3ODktdGhlLWltcGxhbnRlZS1tYW5pZmVzdG8tYWdhaW5zdC1kci1lbGlzdHMtc2lsaWNvbmUtaW1wbGFudC5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MzA=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: The Implantee Manifesto Against Dr. Elist's Silicone Implant 13 years 3 months ago [\#1303353816](#1303353816) - **[defenestrator](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/5818901-defenestrator.html "View defenestrator's Profile")** - [![defenestrator's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/5818901-defenestrator.html "View defenestrator's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/5818901-defenestrator.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 4 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=5818901) I was considering penuma until I found this forum. (You guys literally saved my penis!) The GQ article was a big motivating factor. I should have known better. I used to do search engine optimization (SEO) and it's not uncommon to be able to buy your way into magazines and newspapers for SEO purposes. I'm not saying this is what happened with GQ but it happens almost everywhere. There are brokers that create relationships with reporters/writers on hundreds of websites. The writer figures out a way to work in an article about a service, business, etc. If it's possible a deal is made. You can get articles put into just about every magazine you find on the news rack. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzYyOTY3ODktdGhlLWltcGxhbnRlZS1tYW5pZmVzdG8tYWdhaW5zdC1kci1lbGlzdHMtc2lsaWNvbmUtaW1wbGFudC5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MzA=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: The Implantee Manifesto Against Dr. Elist's Silicone Implant 13 years 3 months ago [\#1285024217](#1285024217) - **[dcpimpin12](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1982119-dcpimpin12.html "View dcpimpin12's Profile")** - [![dcpimpin12's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1982119-dcpimpin12.html "View dcpimpin12's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1982119-dcpimpin12.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 316 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1982119) u can also try dr Mark Solomon I read he removed a elist implant before also. me personaly have a bad experience with dr Camacho. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzYyOTY3ODktdGhlLWltcGxhbnRlZS1tYW5pZmVzdG8tYWdhaW5zdC1kci1lbGlzdHMtc2lsaWNvbmUtaW1wbGFudC5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MzA=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: The Implantee Manifesto Against Dr. Elist's Silicone Implant 13 years 3 months ago [\#1277666778](#1277666778) - **[messageman](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1722700-messageman.html "View messageman's Profile")** - [![messageman's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar1722700.jpg?1309009799)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1722700-messageman.html "View messageman's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1722700-messageman.html) - Moderator - ![Moderator](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rankmod.gif) - Posts: 738 - Thanks: 10 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1722700) I was one of the first guys that i know of to have his implant, way back at the beginning of 2009. At that time there were no known (implant) horror stories and plenty of Elist shills swimming around the Mynewsize website (along with Dr. Elist himself, my main source of information). In short, I was fed the usual Dr. Elist bullshit, and I lapped it up like a parched dog on a sweltering august day. A) Less than 1% complication rate ![B)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/emoticons/1.png "B)") Undetectable/Looks and feels completely real C) Easily removed D) sensation is not affected E) blah, blah, blah, blah, blah It was like leading a lamb to the slaughter.... And...Dr. Elist was late 4 hours for the implant surgery. I had to wait on a gurney for over four hours. I actually ended up having my surgery in the early evening and left the surgicentre around 10 or 11pm. I was originally scheduled to be back in my hotel room by 6pm. This is par for the course with this doctor; he is always late for everything. Too bad this isn't nearly the worst of his offenses. Oh another beauty...He never gave me any pain meds. When I was leaving the surgicentre, the chief nurse's face looked shocked and then angry (at Dr. Elist) when I informed her of this. Nonetheless, I left the place with nothing to offset the indescribable pain that was waiting for me that night. And yes, the pain was indescribable. Every time I had a nocturnal erection, I would wake up with a blood curdling scream. No doubt the people in the hotel room beside must have thought something incredibly horrifying or kinky was going on in my room. Over the next four months my penis healed and I was able to resume my sex life. Unfortunately, my penis had retracted over an inch due to the implant (something the doctor neglected to mention would happen). Another, more disturbing, thing was that I lost about 80% of the sensation on the shaft of my penis. When I first asked the doctor about this, he assured me that it would come back in a "few weeks". When it didn't, he assured me it would come back in "a few months". And when that didn't happen, he blamed it on the fact that I had previous surgeries. To this day, the sensation to my shaft has never returned. Fast forward 4 months and my penis suddenly balloons up with puss and is infected. I am (via telephone) informed that I have to have it removed . This meant I had to suddenly fly from Tokyo to LA and take off four days of work (something that is difficult when you are trying to run an office). But hey, my one and only penis was worth it. Well.. I arrive at his office after a flight from hell, , and the first thing the doctor tells me is that he has "never seen this before". What he was saying is that he never had seen an implant rejected due to infection before...Which was news to me because I had been in contact (through email) that very same week with an implant recipient who had experienced the same I was experiencing , and had to also have it removed. When Dr. Elist told me this, my ![heart](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/emoticons/heart.png "heart") sank because I knew once and for all he was a liar. I had ignored so many warning flags and now I was paying the price. He then went on to explain to me that it (the implant) could have been saved had I come to his clinic when the infection first appeared, and asked me if i had somehow injured my penis to cause this to happen. You see, that's Dr. Elist's "go to move"; He blames the patient for any problem (catastrophic or otherwise) with the implant. What followed was something that would have been comical if it weren't so horrifying... He proceeded to take the implant out in his (unsanitary) examination room with his secretary as his assistant. He gave me some tea (with some type of narcotic in it) to relieve the pain... As I was leaving his examination room, he have gave me a penis pump and told me I would be able to resume sex in about a week. I was then promptly billed $750.00 for that pump ( later finding out it was only worth $150.00). Nice. What the good doctor failed to tell me was that my penis length would experience severe retraction due to the trauma and scar tissue. I did end up reclaiming the retracted length (and even more) but my case is quite rare and most implant recipients who have theirs removed (which is a very high percentage), will end up with a shorter, often deformed penis. I truly believe that Dr. Elist is a criminal...if anybody is thinking of getting the implant, I implore you to reconsider. There are so many implant stories that are worse than mine out there. In fact, I don't know of one truly successful implant story and I've been active on these boards for well over four years.... The prime motivation behind my spending so much of my (treasured) free time on this board is so that I can help prevent other men from experiencing the same nightmare I (and now countless others) have. In fact, as I have always said...If I can prevent even only one man from getting the implant, it will all be worth it. Messageman Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzYyOTY3ODktdGhlLWltcGxhbnRlZS1tYW5pZmVzdG8tYWdhaW5zdC1kci1lbGlzdHMtc2lsaWNvbmUtaW1wbGFudC5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MzA=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: The Implantee Manifesto Against Dr. Elist's Silicone Implant 13 years 3 months ago [\#1284954333](#1284954333) - **[Skeptical\_One](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1704847-skeptical-one.html "View Skeptical_One's Profile")** - [![Skeptical_One's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar1704847.png?1781856569)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1704847-skeptical-one.html "View Skeptical_One's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1704847-skeptical-one.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 4979 - Thanks: 613 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1704847) > Aussieguy wrote: > TheDane wrote: @KingK > > Bro calm Down, everything is going to be alright. I had the implant for 15 months > > I have made a topic describing every stage in the experience and some of it is good but in the end you will have it removed. > > Its your call, we have several documented cases in the boards where u can read how it went for all. Please spend 2 hours reading you will benefit from it. > > Google: Dr Elist reviews There are nothing but positive reviews... It's cases like these that have made me a more critical web user. If it's the same site we're both thinking of, take a closer look at the reviews, especially the ones that are clearly implant-themed. You be the judge if they are legit or not. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzYyOTY3ODktdGhlLWltcGxhbnRlZS1tYW5pZmVzdG8tYWdhaW5zdC1kci1lbGlzdHMtc2lsaWNvbmUtaW1wbGFudC5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MzA=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: The Implantee Manifesto Against Dr. Elist's Silicone Implant 13 years 3 months ago [\#1291822814](#1291822814) - **[longrangebomber](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4433906-longrangebomber.html "View longrangebomber's Profile")** - [![longrangebomber's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4433906-longrangebomber.html "View longrangebomber's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4433906-longrangebomber.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 4 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4433906) > Prezzjr wrote: New the board......and I'm scared guys. Really scared. I was actually feeling pretty good about this, about 3 days ago. I'm 3 weeks into the Elist implant and relatively speaking, have been without any pain or real discomfort. The GQ article did it for me. I went to the web site, read the reviews, looked at the YouTube videos and saw what I wanted to see. I have a Flaccid micropenis 2.5" that turtles in, but EL about 5.5". I thought this would do the trick for me. Now I'm contemplating having it removed now. I can't afford to lose any more EL. Would anyone give this a chance and not have it immediately removed? you paid $13k for implant, have no pain or discomfort, read some threads and now want it out? doesn't make any sense to me..........yet I think you ought to at least try and see what happens - you've already bit the bullet - why not follow instructions, take it easy and see how it turns out? Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzYyOTY3ODktdGhlLWltcGxhbnRlZS1tYW5pZmVzdG8tYWdhaW5zdC1kci1lbGlzdHMtc2lsaWNvbmUtaW1wbGFudC5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MzA=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: The Implantee Manifesto Against Dr. Elist's Silicone Implant 13 years 3 months ago [\#1290747109](#1290747109) - **[WanderingRobert](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4386512-wanderingrobert.html "View WanderingRobert's Profile")** - [![WanderingRobert's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4386512-wanderingrobert.html "View WanderingRobert's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4386512-wanderingrobert.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 6 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4386512) I believe this is the GQ authors email address : This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. And her agents : This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.@cheneyliterary.com Would it be wrong to send them a quick email expressing a view on the quality of her research and journalistic integrity? Just asking. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzYyOTY3ODktdGhlLWltcGxhbnRlZS1tYW5pZmVzdG8tYWdhaW5zdC1kci1lbGlzdHMtc2lsaWNvbmUtaW1wbGFudC5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MzA=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: The Implantee Manifesto Against Dr. Elist's Silicone Implant 13 years 3 months ago [\#1290973157](#1290973157) - **[Skeptical\_One](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1704847-skeptical-one.html "View Skeptical_One's Profile")** - [![Skeptical_One's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar1704847.png?1781856569)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1704847-skeptical-one.html "View Skeptical_One's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1704847-skeptical-one.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 4979 - Thanks: 613 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1704847) There is no "perfecting" an inherently flawed technique/implant. That's the absurdity in this all... with every "new improvement" being gimmickry as opposed to some sort of actual advancement in methodology. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzYyOTY3ODktdGhlLWltcGxhbnRlZS1tYW5pZmVzdG8tYWdhaW5zdC1kci1lbGlzdHMtc2lsaWNvbmUtaW1wbGFudC5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MzA=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: The Implantee Manifesto Against Dr. Elist's Silicone Implant 13 years 3 months ago [\#1284277481](#1284277481) - **[Mustang2020](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1715850-mustang2020.html "View Mustang2020's Profile")** - [![Mustang2020's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1715850-mustang2020.html "View Mustang2020's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1715850-mustang2020.html) - Moderator - ![Moderator](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rankmod.gif) - Posts: 1795 - Thanks: 18 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1715850) > kingk wrote: Hey guys! > > I wish i had read all this information posted here prior to do the PE surgery with Dr Elist. > Now its too late for that. I have had the implant for 4 week now and I am still experiencing lots of pain and swelling. Its worst during night time with the erections. There is also edges of the implant which is very sharp close to the glans and is really painful if it comes in contact with anything. > Further more i have lost at least 1-2 Inch in EL. Now that i have read all this scary stories I have decided to remove the implant. > Is there anyone who can guide me through the procedure, how long is the post surgical recovery and how can i get back my length back. Check out the section on this site : Patient Support Group & Progress Reports , you will find what you are looking for. Good luck. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzYyOTY3ODktdGhlLWltcGxhbnRlZS1tYW5pZmVzdG8tYWdhaW5zdC1kci1lbGlzdHMtc2lsaWNvbmUtaW1wbGFudC5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MzA=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: The Implantee Manifesto Against Dr. Elist's Silicone Implant 13 years 3 months ago [\#1291521258](#1291521258) - **[Prezzjr](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4448526-prezzjr.html "View Prezzjr's Profile")** - [![Prezzjr's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4448526-prezzjr.html "View Prezzjr's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4448526-prezzjr.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 9 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4448526) New the board......and I'm scared guys. Really scared. I was actually feeling pretty good about this, about 3 days ago. I'm 3 weeks into the Elist implant and relatively speaking, have been without any pain or real discomfort. The GQ article did it for me. I went to the web site, read the reviews, looked at the YouTube videos and saw what I wanted to see. I have a Flaccid micropenis 2.5" that turtles in, but EL about 5.5". I thought this would do the trick for me. Now I'm contemplating having it removed now. I can't afford to lose any more EL. Would anyone give this a chance and not have it immediately removed? Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzYyOTY3ODktdGhlLWltcGxhbnRlZS1tYW5pZmVzdG8tYWdhaW5zdC1kci1lbGlzdHMtc2lsaWNvbmUtaW1wbGFudC5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MzA=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: The Implantee Manifesto Against Dr. Elist's Silicone Implant 13 years 3 months ago [\#1283729898](#1283729898) - **[Skeptical\_One](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1704847-skeptical-one.html "View Skeptical_One's Profile")** - [![Skeptical_One's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar1704847.png?1781856569)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1704847-skeptical-one.html "View Skeptical_One's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1704847-skeptical-one.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 4979 - Thanks: 613 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1704847) And that's just from PhalloBoards 2.0. If you want to do extended reading, you can search the old PB found at Phalloplasty.proboards.com Good luck and happy researching! Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzYyOTY3ODktdGhlLWltcGxhbnRlZS1tYW5pZmVzdG8tYWdhaW5zdC1kci1lbGlzdHMtc2lsaWNvbmUtaW1wbGFudC5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MzA=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: The Implantee Manifesto Against Dr. Elist's Silicone Implant 13 years 3 months ago [\#1285012727](#1285012727) - **[messageman](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1722700-messageman.html "View messageman's Profile")** - [![messageman's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar1722700.jpg?1309009799)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1722700-messageman.html "View messageman's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1722700-messageman.html) - Moderator - ![Moderator](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rankmod.gif) - Posts: 738 - Thanks: 10 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1722700) Last year, I and another Elist victim (Richard I believe) tried to post our experiences on one of these so-called legitimate medical sites, only to have them mysteriously disappear. I tried repeatedly and they would only stay up for a day or so before vanishing The idea that men can be led down such a golden path into the mouth of a monster is terrifying.... Even if one were to make a perfunctory effort in his search for the Elist implant, he would find find the countless horror stories attached to it on our site and a few others. And if that were the case, I can't believe that anyone would consider the implant as a possible solution from that time foreward. I know that if I had come across even one horror story (back in 2009), I would never have considered it. Actually, that's not true...One horror story came up just before my implant appointment. The case is infamously referred to as the "Implant disaster". Without going into too many specifics, this patient (located in Dubai) ended up almost losing his penis. He was courageous enough to video the horrible results and post them online. Dr. Elist, of course, explained this way away by reaching into his bag of tricks and pulling out his greatest hit of all (blaming it on the patient). Which seemed even less believable because this particular patient in question happend to be a licensed physician. I of course believed this excuse because i wanted to....Never underestimate the power of denial. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzYyOTY3ODktdGhlLWltcGxhbnRlZS1tYW5pZmVzdG8tYWdhaW5zdC1kci1lbGlzdHMtc2lsaWNvbmUtaW1wbGFudC5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MzA=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. 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