TOPIC: Met Dr. Loria yesterday

I am not a Dr. So it wouldn't matter if he told me what it was because it would have no meaning to me. As I said I spoke to some people and had a meeting with Dr. L so I was comfortable. I don't care what he put in as long as my Dick gets fat. Do we know the long term effect on anything? One week the fda says somethings good then bad and back and forth. I do not let fear controll my life.

You have no right bashing Loria. You don't know him or what he is using. So anything you say is unsupported. You are bashing something you don't Even know what it is.

The cost was 5k per or 12k for 3 treatments. Well worth it if it works.

Today it has now been 24 hours. Still no pain or discomfort. I had to put a condom on to take a shower so the wrap would not get wet. Erections have been normal I will you posted. Sunday I will be taking off the wrap and measuring. Before I wrap again. I will post before and afters at the end if it has worked. I see no need of posting pictures of my junk if it doesn't work.

Mustang2020 wrote: H10, can you also "observe a Modest" 1.5" of length increase with your oil procedure? if so, you will be a rich man soon...book me up!

I'm having problems with Photoshop at the moment. But as soon as I've got a new copy, I'll blow Loria's 1.5" gains out of the water and I'll back it up with photographic evidence. Though I should warn potential patients that results may vary.

Well I call some people, they could have been plants. I didn't think so because the two that sent me pictures you could tell they had something done. Not natural but not deformed. One of the other guys invited me to go see it that was creepy. At this point all I can do is wish for the best. I am ok if the gains don't stay as long as everything still works and I don't get penis cancer or some shit like that. If the worst thing is I wasted 5k oh well it's no a big deal.

Again I will post pictures if I have any change, good or bad.

Personally I'm not particularly interested in seeing photos, as I've never really doubted he's had the procedure done. I've seen loads of photos of enlarged penis's with liquid silicone and all manner of other substances. As long as the consistency of the material used is right and not too much is used, getting a good aesthetic result isn't unusual either.

This issue here isn't how this looks or how much he gains. The issue is that virtually nothing can be found on the complication rate (either via study or simply anecdotal evidence) of large volume Silikon1000. If Dr Loria really is mixing it, as he claims, then there is even less chance we can find any information. Dr Loria himself has to be utterly clueless concerning complication rates.

What is really worrying to me is that it's obvious some people are still interested in this. If that is the case then this forum has totally failed. The carefree attitude shown by so many people opting to get PMMA is worrying enough, but now it seems that it's got to the stage where some of our members will have anything injected into their penis, as long as it makes it bigger.

I can't think of how over the course of the next year anything can come to light that can convince me this procedure is a viable option, as as far as i can tell neither the product or technique have any history either good or bad. I'd be interested to hear from those who are still interested in what it is that attracts you to this procedure and what you hope to discover that would make you go for it?

As we know PMMA products e.g. Artefill contains around 20% pmma beads and around 80% bovine collagen so i.e. the end result (the volume gain) will contain 20% permanent pmma beads and the rest i.e. 80% or less will be the new collagen that our body produced .

Dr. Loria claims that > 95% of the end volume gain from his mixture will be our new collagen so the rest of this gain will be the permanent products (e.g. artefill +/- silikon 1000) i.e <5% .

www.hiltonrx.com/penis-enlargement/south...gement-procedure.php

Does that make sense :-

(Artefill) 20% permanent product ---> <80% new collagen
(Loria's cocktail) <5% permanent products ---> >95% new collagen

So i.e. his mixture is better than Artefill ????? :-

Cheaper, produce more collagen (i.e. it should be with this mixture less rounds needed) and no need for skin-test (28 days before the main injection).

Suneva "the owner of Artefill" will be in the future bankrupt because of this genius cheap mixture .

@Irishfan,

I wish you the best and I hope after this 2nd rd you will have a better gain.

Your 1st rd as far as I remember was on the 26th of July and after only 6-7 days you had your 2nd rd :- I concluded from that either he doesn't know when the new collagen starts to form around the beads or the micro drops (which I doubt it) or he knew about it but he injected in the 1st rd mostly temporary fillers or he might injected only a small volume (I doubt this possibility...> you paid 5k for the 1st rd).

1- If he is truly using a permanent pmma or silikon1000 products as he claims, your body will start producing collagen weeks after injection (e.g.in Artefill after 2-3 wks and ends around 2-3 months) so he should know that he has to wait for a longer period for the 2nd rd.(4-6 wks), and esp. if he claims his mixture will give you > 95% your own body collagen unless if he injected you only a very small amount (but I doubt it, you paid for the 1st rd 5k ??).

2- Lets say if you didn't gain from the 2nd rd (I really hope that you will have gain this time) what's next ?? Will you go for a 3rd rd after 6-7 days again ??

So there must be something with this mixture and this procedure :- He still didn't find the real mixture that he claims, otherwise he shouldn't inject again after 6-7 days i.e. if he really used in his mixture as he claims permanent products.

I would ask him this Q. if I were you :-

Why didn't you wait for the new collagen to form (as he claims in his article) before injecting me the 2nd time ??

Irishfan wrote: The bruseing is not that bad, it's light purple about a quarter size just under the gland. I think it is getting better not sure. As I have said, I will post pictures at the end if they are worth posting. In two weeks if I have no gain I will comment but I wouldn't see a need to put pictures of my junk on the net. However if theresults are bad you can rest assure I will post pictures to warn everyone. If this goes bad I would not want anyone else to o it.

I had no idea I was the first! That is bothersome a bit. Has anyone had something like this that worked? Like the ppm thing

You are the first reporting member of having had the procedure done. Pics would be very helpful because no one else has done it, so please reconsider.

According to what's been gathered, Dr. Loria has supposedly done 100+ patients over the past year, and I'd imagine some of them were in contact with you prior to your procedure, right? One has to wonder if they weren't just phone-testimonial shills (and I would not be the least bit surprised).

Out of 100+ purported Dr. Loria penis enlargement patients, not one has found his way to any PE forum until now (you). That's probably because most of the info we get regarding this procedure is B.S.

It doesnt make much sense, Irishfan. Would you care to explain what do you mean by "if and only if I have a change that stays good or bad"? Why would you only post pics if there is a change? If Loria's procedure has already been carried out, there should be a change already.

Irishfan wrote: If you read all my post you will see that I will, if and only if I have a change that stays good or bad. After 21 days and it's back to normal I will not post pic. But I will tell you to save your money if that happens.

I will try to post updates everyday.

Bigben wrote: Mustang, my greatest fear is that although all this publicity may seem bad on the surface, it creates controversy which inevitably draws in a larger audience. A little over a month ago we did not know who he was. Now I type "Lxxxx penis enlargement" in google and get 190,000 hits ! Not to mention the segment on the evening news. If only 1/10 of a percent of the guys that hear about this pull the trigger, I am sure he would have plenty of business. This is very disturbing, but for now I see no solution.

I know. He will have some victims like elist had, but his dangerous procedure will die quickly and he most likely will loose his license, get sued, or worse get shot by one of his patients...

Irishfan did you get a reason why the thread at pegym was locked? Just curious about that. It does not seem like a forum that is very open minded to surgery in penis enlargment.
kcchief

Pics or GTFO

EZ

Day two after second procedure. The pain is gone, a bit of discomfort from the wrap. Slept good no problems on that end. I wish it would stay this size all the time.

I am glad you sent the pictures. Basically a lot of us including myself, do not like Dr L. Unfortunately some the of hostility is being directed toward you, since we can not talk to the doctor himself.

I would say ignore at least for now, it is more important that you focus on healing by maintaining a positive outlook. And is probably counterproductive to defend Dr L.

I am hoping you recover from this fully, and please reconsider going back for more treatments until you have more time to research this and think things over. just my advice.

No way this site failed. Ask MM how I became a member.

If it wasn't for this site I wouldn't have known the red flags. I saw Irish's posts on pegym and it seemed somewhat credible. It wasn't until I googled Loria and found the Loria threads here that I realized that this procedure is a complete sham and Loria himself was most likely IrishFan.

The information is here. Anyone with half a brain should realize after reading these threads (and read the hair restoration thread too) that Loria is a snake oil salesman, and cares nothing for his patients (god knows if he has even had a penis enlargement patient yet, let's hope not).

For now, I'll continue the good fight and scour the internet to warn people about whats going on. If that means posting every time IrishFan starts a new thread on another site in an attempt to generate interest without giving all the information, so be it. I hope you guys will join me.

i have been a member for a while, and i often enter to read and research a bit. i have to tell this loria posts have been crazy!! im a bit skeptical with this doc. to put something in my Dick everything has to be transparent in terms of the procedure and the material put in. @Irishfan, really hope to see some bef and after pics and to know more about your results. good luck!