TOPIC: Let's clarify one thing about size...

New1inch wrote: I PE because I KNOW my Dick is small at 5x5 and no one can tell me different. "I HAVE A CHILD'S PENIS!!!!"

I somehow missed this. You are well within the spectrum of average for both length and Girth. I disagree with your characterization of your size. You are about as average as average gets (according to what stats & surveys we have available to us), and I can understand why some of us would prefer to be above average. I'm now hovering around your size and am delighted to feel normal. You don't know small until you had to deal with what I did pre-PMMA. Let's just not make the mistake to consider average penises small.
It's almost as if a penis is either big or small nowadays. Ironic, since the majority of men are neither.

hoddle10 wrote: I think we also need to distinguish between support and encourage. I'll offer support in terms of giving the best advice and can to anyone. But I'd never encourage anyone to get any of these procedures done and very often feel the best type of support is to do the opposite and encourage them not to.

I think this is necessary in a forum like this. There will always be guys who want the biggest they can get to... and if those are the only ones who are vocal the forum wouldn't be much help to people. All sides need to be seen... all possible outcomes should be clearly visible to anyone who want's or thinks they want something like this done.

You dont have a childs penis. You got 5" Inch Girth motherfucker. I got 4,75" eg and im happy with it.
5 Inch Girth man, do you know how good that is
It is FIVE Inch! Fiveeeeeeeeeeeeee! i just had to edit the last two sentence because i realised what 5" means, man your like supermangirth.

I bet this thread will be another reason for giving some people new size insecurities which is absolutley not needed!
Don't push each other with nonsense.

Damn wish i could all of us give a bitchslap, to come to our senses.
And i wouldnt give a soft one


by the way only 999999999999999999999 threads with this topic are about to follow.
and i wont post

I think we also need to distinguish between support and encourage. I'll offer support in terms of giving the best advice and can to anyone. But I'd never encourage anyone to get any of these procedures done and very often feel the best type of support is to do the opposite and encourage them not to.

The last girl I was with was a teenager few years back we were together 2 years. She was not tight at all and only been with 1 other guy. I don't find Asian women attractive at all so that won't work for me. My Girth is 5 inches but to me that's still small to me because I personally seen bigger. With my last girlfriend I count feel her. At that point I knew I may be on the slim side. Also I rock a 5 Inch length Cock. And that's 5 inches when I'm super hard. Normally is just under. Sex is not enjoyable to me with my current length and Girth. I slide out a lot and feel like I'm fucking nothing but air. The girls I'm attracted to are not twig sized girls. I like hips and ass. Kim kardashian type girls. If you seen her sex tape youll know she took that big Dick with no problem. And to satisfy the body type girl i like I need i need to have a very meaty dong.

Hmmmm... Wonder who you're referring to...

I agree with the points made. In my case, I'm married with 3 children and unfortunately... way over 30. I also lived without a functional penis for nearly 15 years. I'm not out to create a monster however the increase in size has made a HUGE difference in the quality of sexual relations with my wife. I would imagine that a non childbearing woman would find my size very large but not huge. I know several friends with genuine penis length's in excess of 9" and girths of 6"+ and they've rarely had issues with most girls they've slept with. My ex roommate was a blessed guy with a monster Cock. He always had girls calling him for sex and had many threesomes and foursomes due to his stamina and humongous wang. Most of these guys report that girls typically go wild over their size and can become quite covetous over their new found "prize". Opinions will always vary. Perhaps on my side of the continental United States, women prefer larger men.

I DO NOT feel younger men should have a PMMA procedure done. I also do not recommend anyone go through an elective, life altering procedure without fully assessing the risks and long term consequences of their decision. I've only been with around 8-9 women in my life and ALL of them said they like a big penis. Your mileage may vary. Even pre peyronie's, I was 8" in length and 5.5"+ in Girth and was never told that I was huge. I was told that I was a good size or "perfect". Truth be told, most really well endowed men are promiscuous and the girls that have been with them... compare every other man to them. This combined with the warped perspective pictured by the porn industry will drive the average joe insane. It's not a fair world. Never has been. Never will be.

hoddle10 wrote: Aguy who has a desire to make his big penis even bigger, as he likes the idea ofwomen in pain, but already is happy in life and has always had a good sex life,is not the same as a guy who is so traumatized he can't use public restrooms,have sexual relationships and go the gym or swimming pool etc...

IMO, both of those guys need serious psychiatric help! Your second example, if he is within the normal size range clearly needs help. He has allowed his dysfunctional psychology to cripple his life. You can rest assured he is likely to undergo serial different kinds of procedures. His problem is not in his unit it is in his head. According to the lifestyle measurements, statistically 1 of 3 men are 4.5 to 5 inches of Girth. 3 of 5 are between 4 and 5 inches. If one is in that range one should not allow it to cripple one's life.@bananasAlot of guys on this site have issues. Hopefully more of us will have your courage and confront them head on as you seem to be trying to do. The first step is to be honest with one's self. Well done, I hope to do the same.

We could probably apply enough criteria from the DSM to justify diagnosing half the board with a body dysmorphic disorder. Does that mean that it matters? Only if it impairs one's ability to function or drives someone to take threatening action.

If I want a penis which will impress women while not exceeding the limit of pleasure to the overwhelming majority of women, then call me crazy, obsessive, dysmorphic, but I will research a much as my brain power and the resources available will allow, then weigh the risks, and finally choose to act or not.

Label me what you will, but is the perception that 6.5"-or-more Girth is difficult for most women to handle correct in your opinion?

Let me also add that many and I mean many women have no clue how to tighten their vagina to make their man feel better. Most of them are lazy and want the guy to please them, they feel entitled you see!

It was for print and it was for some really small catalogue. She took me to some people with the hopes that I would be picked for fashion but i was shot down cause of my height.

Shit.

I'm 23.

Guess I took one for the team boys...

The way I look at it is. Say I do have a complication 5, 10, 20 years down the road. I am pretty sure there will be some sort of "fix" to it, however invasive it might be. It might be a bitch to fix. But I took the risk and am willing to see how this pans out. That's just my opinion. The benifit outweighed the risk for me.

Some of you may think I am a dumb-ass for getting it so young... I am kind of glad I got it young at the same time. I am having the time of my life right now.

ALSO, weigh it in this way:

- 23 years old.
- Spent 5+ years spending 1+ hours a day in the bathroom stretching, pumping, Hanging... obessing about my penis and growing it larger. Thinking all day about PE and what I could do to make it bigger.
- Did some dumb, irrational things to myself.
- Developed a "deviant" type mind... I was two faced. There was the Sizemic all my friends and family knew and loved and the Sizemic who fantasized all the time about growing it bigger, worrying about missing out on stretching time etc.

What PMMA did for me:
- Freed me of my desire to PE.
- I don't stretch, I have no want or need to, I only pump for pleasure sometimes when im bored.
- I hardly ever think about my penis anymore. I am genuinely happy with that aspect of my life right now.
- I am starting to feel like there is just "Sizemic" now. I don't have a crazy hobby that burdens my subcouscious.

Did I take it a little far? Yes probably. I have a lot of material in there. I have to pay the price if it turns for the worse. For me the risk was worth it.

@SO I think for the most part we are saying the same thing. 1) Only do PE of any kind if medically necessary. 2) If you decide to ignore the first rule, don't call out members who want to go bigger than you. It is hypocritical to think that your choice to have a risky elective procedure is somehow more valid or qualified than the other person.

gamecock wrote: This is about researching the best option available and deciding if it's worth the risk to try to create a potentially happier sex life and more confidence for ourselves.

I agree. That was and still is the ultimate purpose of this forum/site.

gamecock wrote: I have been with dozens of women in the last couple of years and I have learned that while I'm sure size does matter to a point, the majority of pleasure comes from how a women feels (what she thinks) about you. She has this idea about you and that is what makes her cum, not you're amazing Girth.

I totally agree. And while I may not have half the experience of some of the guys here, I know from my conversations with women as well as what I've learned over the years that quality sex with a woman is as much mental as it is physical (for both parties).
However, in fairness, when it comes to a purely physical point-of-view, a girthy penis can provided added sensation for both parties. Even in light of this, one does not need a magnum Girth to achieve quality sex. At the end of the day, a healthy guy with intelligence, humor, and charm, sporting an average unit can be just as (or sometimes more) gratifying than a John Doe with a monster Cock.

Just because men don't complain about going "too big" doesn't mean women don't complain about having to deal with them. Heck, some men enjoy seeing a woman struggle to accommodate a size, which in effect can be a complaint by the woman, but not necessarily a complaint by the man. According to posts made (purportedly) by women on non-PE sites, being "too big" can pose problems. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the experiences here aren't entirely forthcoming/accurate as to the range of compliments & complaints received for a big size.
I do believe, however, that most women can accommodate most sizes with the proper preparation & foreplay. Ample lube and a receptive mate can make the challenge of a bigger unit tolerable and even enjoyable. But for your short-term affairs & hookups, I'd be willing to wager a sizable bet that there is a "too big" limit for a good range of women.
And, yes, Shane Diesel & Short Mac are too big for most healthy vaginas, so I'd like to think the limits do exist (though the limits would be a matter of range rather than a specific size). Most of the girls in Shane or Shorty's pornography can't take their entire units, and I've seen some where the actress can't mask the pain (unless they are acting, but having makeup ruined by tears is impressive acting for an adult industry actress).

Mustang, thank you for the great feedback. To clarify: You were regularly entering petite asian women with base of 7.25", and it fit? Did they have to work up to it? Had some of them never given birth yet?