--- title: "PMMA COSTS - PhalloBoards - Phalloboards" description: "Anyone know how much it cost for just the apt? I have had my first apt done at 1500 and was quoted 2000 for my second, which I was not expecting. I havnt..." url: "https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/5719270-pmma-costs.html?start=0" date: "2026-08-06T21:14:52+00:00" language: "en-GB" --- PhalloBoards - An Online Community to Discuss Penile Girth Enhancement General Forum Doctors Forum Username Password Remember me - [ Forgot your password? ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/reset.html?Itemid=101) - [ Forgot your username? ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/remind.html?Itemid=101) - [ Create an account ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) # TOPIC: PMMA COSTS ## Re: PMMA COSTS 14 years 5 months ago [\#1272343562](#1272343562) - **[Androgen](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1853690-androgen.html "View Androgen's Profile")** - [![Androgen's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1853690-androgen.html "View Androgen's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1853690-androgen.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 44 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1853690) In relation to other forms of augmentation PMMA is still relatively cheap. Complaining about the price of a completely unnecessary and elective procedure is ridiculous... Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzU3MTkyNzAtcG1tYS1jb3N0cy5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MA==) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: PMMA COSTS 14 years 5 months ago [\#1272344848](#1272344848) - **[ripple](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1725073-ripple.html "View ripple's Profile")** - [![ripple's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1725073-ripple.html "View ripple's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1725073-ripple.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 73 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1725073) Hoddle-duly noted. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzU3MTkyNzAtcG1tYS1jb3N0cy5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MA==) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: PMMA COSTS 14 years 5 months ago [\#1272344354](#1272344354) - **[ripple](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1725073-ripple.html "View ripple's Profile")** - [![ripple's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1725073-ripple.html "View ripple's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1725073-ripple.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 73 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1725073) Try reading my post again and you'll see what my problem is. And I don't necessarily believe that you're a nurse or that you've seen PMMA problems first-hand, as you were ready to travel half-way around the world to get it done a month ago. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzU3MTkyNzAtcG1tYS1jb3N0cy5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MA==) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: PMMA COSTS 14 years 5 months ago [\#1272354098](#1272354098) - **[Miracle8x7](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1724055-miracle8x7.html "View Miracle8x7's Profile")** - [![Miracle8x7's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1724055-miracle8x7.html "View Miracle8x7's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1724055-miracle8x7.html) - Moderator - ![Moderator](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rankmod.gif) - Posts: 1328 - Thanks: 1 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1724055) I agree with MM about the unanticipated "sticker shock". What I do not agree with is the horrific display of malicious behavior. We are all brothers here and NO method is perfectly safe or efficacious. I'd like to remind everyone that regardless of what method one chooses, it makes him no less of a family member as far as I'm concerned. I hope the agitated parties can put their differences behind them and move forward. It is acceptable to voice concern but I'm in aggreance with hoddle10. I've had the procedure myself. It's been performed for at least 10 years in Brazil. Some will develop an autoimmune reaction but the majority do not. Polymethyl-methacrylate is NOT some toxic, radioactive foreign substance. It's been used inside the body for decades with an excellent track record. It's specific use for penile augmentation is still relatively new (circa 10 years). Most reported complications were attributed to poor injection technique by improperly trained personnel, non-regulated product, inconsistent particle/micron sized beads, sharp instrumentation in place of blunt cannulas, etc. This is NOT to say it is without risk. If one truly wishes to gain insight into the safety profile of using PMMA in Phalloplasty, it would serve well to learn Portuguese or German as most detailed medical journals are recorded in these languages. Also, the "Godfather" of PMMA Dr. Gottfried Lemperle has had PMMA in his nose for over 20 years now with no adverse immune response nor any other ill effect. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzU3MTkyNzAtcG1tYS1jb3N0cy5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MA==) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: PMMA COSTS 14 years 5 months ago [\#1272344410](#1272344410) - **[hoddle10](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1704891-hoddle10.html "View hoddle10's Profile")** - [![hoddle10's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1704891-hoddle10.html "View hoddle10's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1704891-hoddle10.html) - Moderator - ![Moderator](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rankmod.gif) - Posts: 3120 - Thanks: 50 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1704891) > Tulsaguy wrote: > ripple wrote: Tulsaguy--your posts are really getting monotonous and tiresome. > > > I could care less what you think. I'm voicing my opinion. Don't like it, don't read it. I'm a registered nurse and I've seen first-hand what PMMA will do when your body starts to reject it, and it's not pretty. > > What's your problem anyway? You are scare mongering though and to be honest that's a horrible thing to do considering you know how many people have had the procedure that still read this forum. You make it sound as if you have some information that you are with holding, as if you know something no one else does. There is nothing wrong with having an opinion, but at least explain what has caused to hold that opinion. 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I could care less what you think. I'm voicing my opinion. Don't like it, don't read it. I'm a registered nurse and I've seen first-hand what PMMA will do when your body starts to reject it, and it's not pretty. What's your problem anyway? 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I'm voicing my opinion. Don't like it, don't read it. I'm a registered nurse and I've seen first-hand what PMMA will do when your body starts to reject it, and it's not pretty. > > > > What's your problem anyway? > > You are scare mongering though and to be honest that's a horrible thing to do considering you know how many people have had the procedure that still read this forum. You make it sound as if you have some information that you are with holding, as if you know something no one else does. There is nothing wrong with having an opinion, but at least explain what has caused to hold that opinion. Give me a break. Scare mongering? Listen, I don't have to explain myself just because someone got butt-hurt (ripple). Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzU3MTkyNzAtcG1tYS1jb3N0cy5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MA==) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: PMMA COSTS 14 years 5 months ago [\#1272343680](#1272343680) - **[79vett](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1823892-79vett.html "View 79vett's Profile")** - [![79vett's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1823892-79vett.html "View 79vett's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1823892-79vett.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 7 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1823892) i don't think that people are so much complaining because they think its unfair in my case i don't have much money to spend and i understand that it is our choice it just sucks that we thought that we would be able to get 2 or 3 sessions for a certain price im sure it wont stop us it will just delay the precess Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzU3MTkyNzAtcG1tYS1jb3N0cy5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MA==) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: PMMA COSTS 14 years 5 months ago [\#1272344713](#1272344713) - **[Tulsaguy](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1807460-tulsaguy.html "View Tulsaguy's Profile")** - [![Tulsaguy's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1807460-tulsaguy.html "View Tulsaguy's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1807460-tulsaguy.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 38 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1807460) > ripple wrote: Tulsaguy--your posts are really getting monotonous and tiresome. You keep hijacking threads to inject your own opinions that you present as fact, and that have nothing to do with the topic at hand. It's inappropriate and particularly insensitive to the members that have had the procedure. I think by now members are well aware of the potential problems that PMMA presents, and there are threads that deal specifically with those issues. Try posting there, but if you do, offer something more than 'PMMA will ruin your life!!!' Dude, I can say whatever the hell I want. Grow up. If you don't like what I have to say, don't read it. End of fucking story. 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And may I also add something...just completely avoid PMMA altogether. Trust me, you'll be thanking me 5-10 years from now if you take my advice. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzU3MTkyNzAtcG1tYS1jb3N0cy5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MA==) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: PMMA COSTS 14 years 5 months ago [\#1272344732](#1272344732) - **[ripple](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1725073-ripple.html "View ripple's Profile")** - [![ripple's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1725073-ripple.html "View ripple's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1725073-ripple.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 73 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1725073) You're correct, you do have the right to say whatever you want. You apparently also have the right to be an asshole. 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Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzU3MTkyNzAtcG1tYS1jb3N0cy5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MA==) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: PMMA COSTS 14 years 5 months ago [\#1272343512](#1272343512) - **[79vett](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1823892-79vett.html "View 79vett's Profile")** - [![79vett's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1823892-79vett.html "View 79vett's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1823892-79vett.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 7 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1823892) i know how you feel i had to sell some stuff to get the rest of the money before the price got higher i could have had 3 sessions done before and cost me much less but hey I'm just glad that I'm going in and that the doctor seems to be a cool guy it sucks that i have to spend more money but I'm willing to spend it i just happy it dosent get higher Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzU3MTkyNzAtcG1tYS1jb3N0cy5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MA==) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: PMMA COSTS 14 years 5 months ago [\#1272344808](#1272344808) - **[ripple](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1725073-ripple.html "View ripple's Profile")** - [![ripple's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1725073-ripple.html "View ripple's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1725073-ripple.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 73 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1725073) Also, you claim to be a registered nurse, but in an earlier post you say: "my work requires year round travel." [ phalloboards.websitetoolbox.com/post/Complications-5576655](http://phalloboards.websitetoolbox.com/post/Complications-5576655) So what are you, a nurse on a cruise ship? 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Check out the forum rules, in particular rule 3: "Maintain mature and respectful dialog" [ phalloboards.websitetoolbox.com/post/Com...PhalloBoards-5354271](http://phalloboards.websitetoolbox.com/post/Complete-Rules-for-the-PhalloBoards-5354271) @Tulsaguy, you'd have to be pretty naive not to realise that you are scare mongering. Over the last week or so you've made some pretty sweeping statements, that would quite obviously concern anyone who had had the procedure. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzU3MTkyNzAtcG1tYS1jb3N0cy5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MA==) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. 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