--- title: "Anyone familiar with Dr Morganstern in Atlanta - PhalloBoards - Phalloboards" description: "He is a referral from Dr. Whitehead's staff. Looks like another distinguished urologist. He seems to focus his practice mainly in area of erection quality...." url: "https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/5410889-anyone-familiar-with-dr-morganstern-in-atlanta.html?start=0" date: "2026-08-06T10:08:01+00:00" language: "en-GB" --- PhalloBoards - An Online Community to Discuss Penile Girth Enhancement General Forum Doctors Forum Username Password Remember me - [ Forgot your password? ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/reset.html?Itemid=101) - [ Forgot your username? ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/remind.html?Itemid=101) - [ Create an account ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) # TOPIC: Anyone familiar with Dr Morganstern in Atlanta ## Re: Anyone familiar with Dr Morganstern in Atlanta 15 years 1 week ago [\#1269524497](#1269524497) - **[Miracle8x7](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1724055-miracle8x7.html "View Miracle8x7's Profile")** - [![Miracle8x7's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1724055-miracle8x7.html "View Miracle8x7's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1724055-miracle8x7.html) - Moderator - ![Moderator](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rankmod.gif) - Posts: 1328 - Thanks: 1 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1724055) He also uses PMMA but I was told he prefers to do a FFT to establish a protective layer in the event something goes wrong down the road with PMMA. I don't know if he's injecting into the same subcutaneous layer as Dr. C. Perhaps he injects so that it's attached to the fascia instead of the skin. I'm not sure. I've spoken with Wade about Dr. Morganstern. I live in Georgia so I'm really close to this guy. Don't know where he gets his PMMA supply from. Receptionist is really nice; though they require a $200.00 consultation fee. I never went. $200.00 to answer basic questions is a little unreasonable if you ask me. They DO apply the consult fee to the procedure if you follow through. RN Wade always answers my questions and without asking me for money. I LIKE that. Price starts at $4,500.00 for Girth enhancement only. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzU0MTA4ODktYW55b25lLWZhbWlsaWFyLXdpdGgtZHItbW9yZ2Fuc3Rlcm4taW4tYXRsYW50YS5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MA==) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Anyone familiar with Dr Morganstern in Atlanta 15 years 1 week ago [\#1271831575](#1271831575) - **[Miracle8x7](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1724055-miracle8x7.html "View Miracle8x7's Profile")** - [![Miracle8x7's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1724055-miracle8x7.html "View Miracle8x7's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1724055-miracle8x7.html) - Moderator - ![Moderator](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rankmod.gif) - Posts: 1328 - Thanks: 1 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1724055) I was perplexed by his admission of using PMMA as it suggests illegal application of the product. Alas, at the time, I only cared about enlarging my woefully inadequate Girth. I will be in touch with his office shortly and will report my findings asap. 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Does this Dr. perform PMMA for Girth enhancement, too? Too bad FFT results aren't permanent..this would be hands down the safest procedure for Girth enhancement, by far. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzU0MTA4ODktYW55b25lLWZhbWlsaWFyLXdpdGgtZHItbW9yZ2Fuc3Rlcm4taW4tYXRsYW50YS5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MA==) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Anyone familiar with Dr Morganstern in Atlanta 15 years 1 week ago [\#1271831410](#1271831410) - **[hoddle10](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1704891-hoddle10.html "View hoddle10's Profile")** - [![hoddle10's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1704891-hoddle10.html "View hoddle10's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1704891-hoddle10.html) - Moderator - ![Moderator](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rankmod.gif) - Posts: 3120 - Thanks: 50 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1704891) I just don't believe his office. I think they are trying to get guys to have FFT by saying he will later add PMMA. But in the US only Artefil is legal and the carrier takes 2 weeks to absorb. I don't think that is ideal for the penis. I think Dr C offers a Canadian version of Artefil that doesn't have the bovine carrier. 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Initially I was not going to contact him but you have piqued my interest. I agree the $200 per consult is steep, I know I have done 4 of them so far! At least one gets the doc's full attention for 15 to 30 minutes. I am in Houston so just a 2 hour Delta flight away! 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I agree. He does have good credentials and seems to have a good reputation. I look forward to the results of your consultation. 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If you told him you were a mod for the boards he might wave the fee. I also would like the PMMA info he using. Kcchief Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzU0MTA4ODktYW55b25lLWZhbWlsaWFyLXdpdGgtZHItbW9yZ2Fuc3Rlcm4taW4tYXRsYW50YS5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MA==) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Anyone familiar with Dr Morganstern in Atlanta 15 years 1 week ago [\#1269524903](#1269524903) - **[ripple](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1725073-ripple.html "View ripple's Profile")** - [![ripple's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1725073-ripple.html "View ripple's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1725073-ripple.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 73 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1725073) Interesting that he uses PMMA since other than Artefill it's illegal to use here, and considering the price, he's probably not using it. If something goes wrong, he's in a world of trouble, regardless of what kind of waiver he has people sign. 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Perhaps I'll take the plunge and pay him a visit before heading west. We'll see. 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Morganstern does seem to have a great background and credentials. I will post a full report after the consultation. 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I passed this information along to RN Wade also. A quick call to Dr. C's office might save you the cost of airfare! Perhaps he has uncovered more information about Morganstern and his current procedure involving PMMA and FFT. I DO like the fact that he (Morganstern) is a Urologist and therefore has a good understanding of penile anatomy. Most Urologist are against Phalloplasty. Also, I live in Georgia so he is really local. That's a strong selling point in my book. Let's stay in touch. 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