--- title: "Mixed feelings - PhalloBoards - Phalloboards" description: "I have been lurking on the old board for some while and am undecided should I get pmma. I am 4,5 EG like many who has gotten the... - Page 2" url: "https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/5371230-mixed-feelings.html?start=15" date: "2026-08-06T14:00:45+00:00" language: "en-GB" --- PhalloBoards - An Online Community to Discuss Penile Girth Enhancement General Forum Doctors Forum Username Password Remember me - [ Forgot your password? ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/reset.html?Itemid=101) - [ Forgot your username? ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/remind.html?Itemid=101) - [ Create an account ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) # TOPIC: Mixed feelings ## Re: Mixed feelings 15 years 1 month ago [\#1269726867](#1269726867) - **[Jec](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1724940-jec.html "View Jec's Profile")** - [![Jec's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1724940-jec.html "View Jec's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1724940-jec.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 22 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1724940) Has anyone who's had PMMA done tried or currently use a traction device?Does it feel safe or same as before? or does the new collagen feel too tight to stretch or something? Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzUzNzEyMzAtbWl4ZWQtZmVlbGluZ3MuaHRtbD9tYXJrZG93bj0xJnN0YXJ0PTE1) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Mixed feelings 15 years 1 month ago [\#1269730215](#1269730215) - **[mikehok](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1724027-mikehok.html "View mikehok's Profile")** - [![mikehok's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1724027-mikehok.html "View mikehok's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1724027-mikehok.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 83 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1724027) Eq, I'm genuinely curious about something. I'm not asking this to be confrontational. If, as you appear to believe, regular size guys are deluding themselves that their women secretly desire a bigger Girth than they can offer. Then I am assuming that you as an "average" guy are content with your size and there would be no purpose in taking any surgical risk for enlargement. If that's the case what brings you to this board ? 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Now she's all over me and says she hopes she doesn't lose me to another woman. This is after only slight Girth enhancement as the first session collagen buildup hasn't really kicked in yet. So I'll venture out on a limb and say you've got nothing here to lose as you're in a very similar situation. Try to ask them to keep it as natural looking as possible and they know exactly what that means. As soon as she notices something she missed is there - and NO it is not her ex-boyfriend's size but that extra stretch of satisfying Girth - then she'll be the one afraid of losing you. It is a small step to take when you consider all this and had I realized instead of having last minute serious doubts I would have stormed the clinic as a stand-by patient awaiting the cancellation of a less decided candidate.. Best of luck and happy travels. 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You and I have similar EGs and I have to say, its on the smaller side of average. Im not trying to get huge, but i feel 5.5-6.0 is more than enough and attainable with our starting stats. Every penis is diffrent, E.P.s results were amazing and he and I also have the same stats. Its a small gamble, but dude....your on a PE site! Your here for a reason! if it doesent bother you to the point you your unhappy than I would just stick with what god gave you. Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1waGFsbG9wbGFzdHktZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi1hcmNoaXZlLzUzNzEyMzAtbWl4ZWQtZmVlbGluZ3MuaHRtbD9tYXJrZG93bj0xJnN0YXJ0PTE1) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Mixed feelings 15 years 1 month ago [\#1269736380](#1269736380) - **[briceb](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1725992-briceb.html "View briceb's Profile")** - [![briceb's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar1725992.jpg?1571843684)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1725992-briceb.html "View briceb's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1725992-briceb.html) - Moderator - ![Moderator](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rankmod.gif) - Posts: 1484 - Thanks: 17 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1725992) > eqstudent wrote: Now, if all you want is a bigger unit so you can walk around feeling that you have a bigger Dick than the next guy, ignore everything I have said and just go for it! To be completely honest, I would be lying if I said that some part of my reasoning for PE is to have some confidence in feeling that I would have a bigger Dick than the next guy. 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I have no idea how the traction devices work on PMMA injected penis. Would it leave a gap at base if it extends, or does it stretch the newly formed collagen just making it sort of thinner layer but not leaving a gap at base? Maybe no one has an answer, just as no one has answer to the most important question: would it be safe for me in long-term. But when we know it is reasonably safe? In ten years maybe. 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I am 4,5 EG like many who has gotten the procedure done. > From before/after pics it is hard to make conclusions of the results.All except sizemic's results look quite unnatural and bruised.Why are his results so different looking? Is it just in my eyes?I'd rather have smaller and natural, than thick and strange.So it would probably be gamble how my results would look with PMMA? If you came to the forums after the photos were taken down, it may be less apparent that most photos that appear to be bruised are usually well within their recovery period. The best way to pass judgment on the aesthetics of a PMMA penis is to examine it 6 weeks post-op from the 2nd injection appointment. That is because the first appointment will almost inevitably have major/minor aesthetic issues that is meant to be resolved by the 2nd appointment. The bruising should usually be gone by 6 weeks post-op, regardless of which round it was (1st, 2nd, 3rd). If you are relying on photos to help you make a decision, I'd definitely hang around and wait till more are submitted. You are going to want to look at the 6 weeks-post op of penises that have undergone a 2nd or 3rd round. good luck with whatever it is you decide to do. 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That phrase could be placed strategically in every thread in the forum lol. @Jec What is safe or not will always be a matter of conjecture and calculated risk. Nothing is fool proof in life, and much less so in the uncharted territory of experimental medical interventions. As far as a timeline is concerned, it could be that next year research proves it safe or that we'd need to wait a quarter century for historical tracking of our own current interventions? It all depends on what your comfort zone is for safety. I reflected a lot about it and, given my age and circumstances, considered Phalloplasty by PMMA injection by a tried and tested competent practitioner such as Dr C as safe enough today to pursue myself. Others will choose to wait and ponder, each with their own valid reasons and different risk aversion thresholds used in examining scientific data. 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I'll be receiving a stretching device soon, but in the meantime I find that manual stretching (with my hands) seems no different than before PMMA. 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That's why I have major last minute doubts.Yesterday I read the links Supa sent to on the old PMMA thread.Now I don't know if I am taking some mega risk on my penis health.... uh oh.I already thought it's safe, but I guess it's not so clear yet? > Are there risks that I could loose Erection for life? Or major unstoppable inflammation? > I have planned to take 10% to minimize risks but then the results might be minimal. > Thank's for nice replies. Keep in mind any procedure you choose to undergo will have risks. Women seeking out the common & refined practice of the "boob job" still face risks, so us guys certainly have it much riskier when we approach a lesser refined field (i.e. Phalloplasty). I will say, however, that the Bioplasty technique definitely has major advantages over traditional surgery, but that does not make it free of risks. In the end, most will conclude:To go with a procedure (i.e. PMMA) after having researched thoroughly.Decline pursuing a procedure only to wait out more progress reports before reassessing their decision.Decline all procedures and pursue manual PE.I'm most concerned with those who have decided to undergo PMMA in specific without having thoroughly reviewed all the information that's currently out there. PMMA is almost too good to be true, which is why I'm still reserved on the topic (even though I love my own result). I'm obviously pro-PMMA to some extent, but ultimately know that there is still a lot we're learning about and cannot possibly conclude with 100% certainty that this is the Holy Grail for Girth (until of course, stem cell magic rules the day). Time will tell that, though I have a hunch that we've come across something legit! For those who have "mixed feelings" (the title of this thread), be sure you feel that you are doing it for all the right & healthy reasons, and keep in mind that this is not an easy process (PMMA in specific) to reverse. Good luck jec and all others who are contemplating their PE futures. 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So that means that in front it still doesn't fit right. She might be the one who is too big after having two kids, but I'm the one stuck with the problem unless she gets extensive vaginal surgery that sounds more comprehensive than reverse childbirth. Dr Abecassis does it for 5000 euros, but for that sum of $7k I think I can get some Girth enhancement? When I suggested that he said, yeah, that way YOU'd benefit. lol So after years of her saying she couldn't care less for size she's become a sex addict and this is only with a tiny bit extra Girth 3 weeks after my first PMMA session. She said this morning "your really huge" which isn't what a lady says when size doesn't matter. By the way she doesn't seem to care that it is short as long as it is thick, but I doubt she would mind were it longer. 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