--- title: "Pmma and retraction - PhalloBoards - Phalloboards" description: "I’m just curious what happens to people who are really bad growers? So I’m 6.25” bpel 5” nbpel but my flaccid can’t be 1” at times. I seen that..." url: "https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/general-discussion/10153261-pmma-and-retraction.html" date: "2026-08-06T14:44:53+00:00" language: "en-GB" --- PhalloBoards - An Online Community to Discuss Penile Girth Enhancement General Forum Doctors Forum Username Password Remember me - [ Forgot your password? ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/reset.html?Itemid=101) - [ Forgot your username? ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/remind.html?Itemid=101) - [ Create an account ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) # TOPIC: Pmma and retraction ## Pmma and retraction 5 years 11 months ago [\#1308699040](#1308699040) - **[h3o2](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/6453099-h3o2.html "View h3o2's Profile")** - [![h3o2's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/6453099-h3o2.html "View h3o2's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/6453099-h3o2.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 52 - Thanks: 2 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=6453099) I’m just curious what happens to people who are really bad growers? So I’m 6.25” BPEL 5” nbpel but my Flaccid can’t be 1” at times. I seen that hotdog look but will it be really bad for me? 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I had the same issue as you and there are days where the "pig-in-the-blanket" can occur when Flaccid. However, when I do hang, it hangs real nice. I'm sure experiences vary though. 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I don't think Turtling will get worse with PMMA... it'll either remain the same or improve somewhat due to the collagen inhibiting retraction. 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I still retract quite a bit sometimes, but definitely less than before. 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I think you would want to be using a alpha blocker, some sort of all day stretcher or sheath with success before having a stimulatory filler - really any filler. 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I used to turtle badly, so took Flomax for a couple of weeks post op and wore a stretcher, pretty much 24/7. I think I worse the stretcher for 6 weeks after my first procedure. That was probably massive over kill, as was 2 weeks of flomax, but I was super paranoid about the product squashing if I turtled during the healing process. I now turtle way less than I used to and it's only an issue when it's very cold. 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I’ve been on alpha blockers(flomax,doxazosin) for the past year now and it has never affected my Flaccid. I do have a vacuum stretcher that I gave up on I wore it every day for 6 months for at least 6 hours a day, and saw no improvement with my Flaccid so i gave up. But i will try again. I did make a lot of gains Hanging .5” Erect gains but never saw any Flaccid gains. 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Flomax/alpha blockers - certainly dont work for everyone. Maybe we could increase the dose - as it is not a medication I otherwise use have been reluctant to post dosage incase of side effects - especially postural hypotension ie having too low a blood pressure when you get up quickly. 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I had 25 syringes done today. It added over an Inch of Girth. The retraction I’m getting now is from my scar to my head is all retracted into my shaft where the PMMA is. Is there anything I should do or will the skin stretch with time? 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I had 25 syringes done today. It added over an Inch of Girth. The retraction I’m getting now is from my scar to my head is all retracted into my shaft where the PMMA is. Is there anything I should do or will the skin stretch with time? You need to follow the Texas protocol for aftercare . Keep it stretched out and massage often. 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