--- title: "Manual Stretching after lig cut (Photos Inside) - PhalloBoards - Phalloboards" description: "I will soon have my lig cut, i will Post pictures and stuff of it afterwards for Information. The only thing that bothers me is... - Page 3" url: "https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/general-discussion/10152884-manual-stretching-after-lig-cut-photos-inside.html?start=30" date: "2026-08-06T16:53:00+00:00" language: "en-GB" --- PhalloBoards - An Online Community to Discuss Penile Girth Enhancement General Forum Doctors Forum Username Password Remember me - [ Forgot your password? ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/reset.html?Itemid=101) - [ Forgot your username? ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/remind.html?Itemid=101) - [ Create an account ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) # TOPIC: Manual Stretching after lig cut (Photos Inside) ## Re: Manual Stretching after lig cut 6 years 6 months ago [\#1308696550](#1308696550) - **[Bomber99](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/6759952-bomber99.html "View Bomber99's Profile")** - [![Bomber99's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/6759952-bomber99.html "View Bomber99's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/6759952-bomber99.html) - Pending Email Verification - ![Pending Email Verification](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank2.gif) - Posts: 28 - Thanks: 2 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=6759952) Just had my lig cut done 10 hours ago. Cant say much from now, i am still very sedated . Did in in clinic Brazil ,Kaliningrad. No pain for now, peobably because of the good job with Sedation and pain meds they do. Its all covered up so cant tell u guys about length for now. will report later. Furthermore i have also done penoscrotal webbing, which i also will post before and after pickt. The big downside that the friendly ambadessor "Tatjana" who was described by hunkchunk doènst work here anymore and was displayed by another Lady, who is a beautiful woman but speaks almost zero terrible english. Anyway stuff is friendly we get along woth google translator What saved me that there is another cure girl who had breast augmentation and loves to help me and work as my translator because she speaks russian and my mother language. Will probably buy her a good bottle of whine wheb she leaves. But the Rest of communication, even with the surgeons is mainly by google translator thats why i can not advise you doing your lig cut here if you do not speak russian. You peobably wont habe the luck to find a girl here thats damm hot and can translate for you;) For fellow people who had the lig cut die your surgeons tell you if its ok to stand after surgery because i somehow dont feel pain from it but i remember reading you should stay in bed for atleast 2 days... smh Last edit: by [Bomber99](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/6759952-bomber99.html "View Bomber99's Profile") Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLzEwMTUyODg0LW1hbnVhbC1zdHJldGNoaW5nLWFmdGVyLWxpZy1jdXQtcGhvdG9zLWluc2lkZS5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MzA=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Manual Stretching after lig cut (Photos Inside) 6 years 6 months ago [\#1308696552](#1308696552) - **[Bomber99](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/6759952-bomber99.html "View Bomber99's Profile")** - [![Bomber99's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/6759952-bomber99.html "View Bomber99's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/6759952-bomber99.html) - Pending Email Verification - ![Pending Email Verification](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank2.gif) - Posts: 28 - Thanks: 2 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=6759952) Pic1: immediatly after surgery whe i was able to hold my phone without dropping it Pic2 : very realaxed max length Flaccid Pic 3: scrotal webbing which also got reduced, dr called it a full Triangel scrotoplast Cost for both procedures aswell if 10 days clinical stay are 2300 €, ~ 2,5 k $ which is very cheap in my opinion. . 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Since the cut was through scrotum there is no immediate length gain. One thing that worries me that when my penis is not in extender its constantly turtles to its smallest Form and not relaxed . Can this be a side effect of the surgery Trauma and will this change over the next weeks ? Opinions please. 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Use light tension Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLzEwMTUyODg0LW1hbnVhbC1zdHJldGNoaW5nLWFmdGVyLWxpZy1jdXQtcGhvdG9zLWluc2lkZS5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MzA=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Manual Stretching after lig cut (Photos Inside) 6 years 5 months ago [\#1308696636](#1308696636) - **[Bomber99](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/6759952-bomber99.html "View Bomber99's Profile")** - [![Bomber99's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/6759952-bomber99.html "View Bomber99's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/6759952-bomber99.html) - Pending Email Verification - ![Pending Email Verification](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank2.gif) - Posts: 28 - Thanks: 2 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=6759952) Im using ads the whole day Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLzEwMTUyODg0LW1hbnVhbC1zdHJldGNoaW5nLWFmdGVyLWxpZy1jdXQtcGhvdG9zLWluc2lkZS5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MzA=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Manual Stretching after lig cut (Photos Inside) 6 years 5 months ago [\#1308696704](#1308696704) - **[Bomber99](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/6759952-bomber99.html "View Bomber99's Profile")** - [![Bomber99's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/6759952-bomber99.html "View Bomber99's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/6759952-bomber99.html) - Pending Email Verification - ![Pending Email Verification](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank2.gif) - Posts: 28 - Thanks: 2 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=6759952) Did anyone notice that after lig cut, certain Stretching angles hurt q lot more than others, for me its stretching downside ..between the cheeks Last edit: by [Bomber99](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/6759952-bomber99.html "View Bomber99's Profile") Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLzEwMTUyODg0LW1hbnVhbC1zdHJldGNoaW5nLWFmdGVyLWxpZy1jdXQtcGhvdG9zLWluc2lkZS5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MzA=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Manual Stretching after lig cut (Photos Inside) 6 years 5 months ago [\#1308696720](#1308696720) - **[kingston105](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/5895439-kingston105.html "View kingston105's Profile")** - [![kingston105's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/5895439-kingston105.html "View kingston105's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/5895439-kingston105.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 4 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=5895439) I was told that if you get a lig cut and go through the scrotum doctors cant reach the full root of the ligament. Therefor it is not a a true ligament release. I was told this from someone at Morgenstern office. They said if everyone can go through the scrotum they would. (make sense) ONLY way to fully release the suspensary ligament is to go from the infrapubic approach. Last edit: by [Skeptical\_One](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1704847-skeptical-one.html "View Skeptical_One's Profile") Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLzEwMTUyODg0LW1hbnVhbC1zdHJldGNoaW5nLWFmdGVyLWxpZy1jdXQtcGhvdG9zLWluc2lkZS5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MzA=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Manual Stretching after lig cut (Photos Inside) 6 years 5 months ago [\#1308696722](#1308696722) - **[Bomber99](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/6759952-bomber99.html "View Bomber99's Profile")** - [![Bomber99's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/6759952-bomber99.html "View Bomber99's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/6759952-bomber99.html) - Pending Email Verification - ![Pending Email Verification](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank2.gif) - Posts: 28 - Thanks: 2 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=6759952) Thats probably true, and it means that after scrotal lig cut you see gains only if you stretch, other lug cuts see gains immediatly.. tue big advantage of scrotal lig cut is that there is no visible scar, so nobody will ever be able to tell i had it done;) Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLzEwMTUyODg0LW1hbnVhbC1zdHJldGNoaW5nLWFmdGVyLWxpZy1jdXQtcGhvdG9zLWluc2lkZS5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MzA=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Manual Stretching after lig cut (Photos Inside) 6 years 5 months ago [\#1308696759](#1308696759) - **[Herbert\_West](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4212657-herbert-west.html "View Herbert_West's Profile")** - [![Herbert_West's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4212657-herbert-west.html "View Herbert_West's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4212657-herbert-west.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 400 - Thanks: 3 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4212657) > kingston105 wrote: I was told that if you get a lig cut and go through the scrotum doctors cant reach the full root of the ligament. Therefor it is not a a true ligament release. I was told this from someone at Morgenstern office. They said if everyone can go through the scrotum they would. (make sense) ONLY way to fully release the suspensary ligament is to go from the infrapubic approach. Besides this, what's the evidence supporting this statement? Any article or study? Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLzEwMTUyODg0LW1hbnVhbC1zdHJldGNoaW5nLWFmdGVyLWxpZy1jdXQtcGhvdG9zLWluc2lkZS5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MzA=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Manual Stretching after lig cut (Photos Inside) 6 years 5 months ago [\#1308696770](#1308696770) - **[LatinLog](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4068215-latinlog.html "View LatinLog's Profile")** - [![LatinLog's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar4068215.jpg?1594157091)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4068215-latinlog.html "View LatinLog's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4068215-latinlog.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 113 - Thanks: 4 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4068215) I did not see immediate gains with a single pelvic incision. I believe some guys with Y V incisions do, drawback is a gnarly scar. I have a very faint scar that's easily concealed w light hair. I actually lost a little bit of length directly after surgery but after Hanging made excellent gains. Regards LL Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLzEwMTUyODg0LW1hbnVhbC1zdHJldGNoaW5nLWFmdGVyLWxpZy1jdXQtcGhvdG9zLWluc2lkZS5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MzA=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Manual Stretching after lig cut (Photos Inside) 6 years 5 months ago [\#1308696771](#1308696771) - **[Bomber99](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/6759952-bomber99.html "View Bomber99's Profile")** - [![Bomber99's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/6759952-bomber99.html "View Bomber99's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/6759952-bomber99.html) - Pending Email Verification - ![Pending Email Verification](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank2.gif) - Posts: 28 - Thanks: 2 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=6759952) LL you are my hero Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLzEwMTUyODg0LW1hbnVhbC1zdHJldGNoaW5nLWFmdGVyLWxpZy1jdXQtcGhvdG9zLWluc2lkZS5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MzA=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Manual Stretching after lig cut (Photos Inside) 6 years 3 months ago [\#1308697423](#1308697423) - **[donjuan](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/6760440-donjuan.html "View donjuan's Profile")** - [![donjuan's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/6760440-donjuan.html "View donjuan's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/6760440-donjuan.html) - Pending Email Verification - ![Pending Email Verification](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank2.gif) - Posts: 57 - Thanks: 9 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=6760440) i have similar problem, if your glans is small it will keep slipping. However even if its just 1 hour per day and think thats still ok? Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLzEwMTUyODg0LW1hbnVhbC1zdHJldGNoaW5nLWFmdGVyLWxpZy1jdXQtcGhvdG9zLWluc2lkZS5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MzA=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Manual Stretching after lig cut 6 years 3 months ago [\#1308697429](#1308697429) - **[donjuan](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/6760440-donjuan.html "View donjuan's Profile")** - [![donjuan's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/6760440-donjuan.html "View donjuan's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/6760440-donjuan.html) - Pending Email Verification - ![Pending Email Verification](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank2.gif) - Posts: 57 - Thanks: 9 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=6760440) Yh for me my glans just keeps slipping out Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLzEwMTUyODg0LW1hbnVhbC1zdHJldGNoaW5nLWFmdGVyLWxpZy1jdXQtcGhvdG9zLWluc2lkZS5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MzA=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Manual Stretching after lig cut 6 years 3 months ago [\#1308697436](#1308697436) - **[LatinLog](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4068215-latinlog.html "View LatinLog's Profile")** - [![LatinLog's Avatar](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar4068215.jpg?1594157091)](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4068215-latinlog.html "View LatinLog's Profile") - [ Offline](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4068215-latinlog.html) - General - ![General](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 113 - Thanks: 4 - [ ](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4068215) Please see my previous posts in this thread. I have used wrapping for years to increase comfort and decrease slippage. There is no quick way. Stretching and Hanging needs to be done routinely and for long periods of time to make any difference. "Myself personally" for the past several years it has equated to about 1500 hours = .5 inches. Yup it takes a lot of dedication! Last edit: by [LatinLog](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4068215-latinlog.html "View LatinLog's Profile") Reason: Incomplete sentence Please [Log in](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuajQucGhhbGxvYm9hcmRzLmluZm8vZm9ydW0vZ2VuZXJhbC1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLzEwMTUyODg0LW1hbnVhbC1zdHJldGNoaW5nLWFmdGVyLWxpZy1jdXQtcGhvdG9zLWluc2lkZS5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MzA=) or [Create an account](https://www.j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. 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